Originally posted by XanatosForever
😆 Well no wonder you thought thought the plot was nothing special, Scythe. Zero Mission is a remake of the original Metroid!
Yeah, I figured as much. I just found the cartridge layin' around the house, grabbed it and beat it in a few days and thought it was awesome.
Metroid as a series was short until the Prime series came along. If you're good enough you can play through Zero Mission, Return of Samus, Super Metroid, and Fusion in a day. Hell, the 2D games give you better rewards the faster you get through it, and the best result as far as the game is concerned is from playing through in less than 2 hours.
Not saying more content isn't good, but shortness is kind of a silly reason to knock a Metroid game.
According to aggregate scores from GameRankings, Other M is at 82%, two percent higher than lowest-ranking game Metroid II: Return of Samus.
Gotta say, when your entire series is 8/10 or higher, you're doing pretty damn well.
Prime was an amazing and rare gem of a sub-series, and quite frankly I never expected Team Ninja to get anywhere near that bar of excellence.
Fusion I probably can't speak on objectively. It was my very first Metroid game. And Zero Mission was rather constrained by being a mostly-straight redo of the original, though they still managed to add on a well-done new chapter.
The fact remains, though, aside from Primes, the series encourages quick completion. It may perhaps be a criticism of Metroid as a whole, but when you say "This game is not a good Metroid game, because it's a bit short" it seems a tad silly to me.
I don't think you can use a speed run bonus objective as a measure of a game's intended length. The speed run could be there whatever the game's final length was, altered appropriately. People speed run Final Fantasy games.
Zero Mission and Fusion were both criticised for their short running time (noticeably shorter than similar Castlevania games, especially Zero Mission), and even more so their hand holding. The point is that Prime changed things for Metroid; you cannot go back to old ways that were actually a bad thing and not expect people to pick it up as a point of criticism.
I would hardly call it a bonus objective. Metroid's tradition of a gradually less-covered Samus existed from the beginning of the series as a sort of "grade" on your completion. Right up until Fusion the better grades were tied entirely to how fast you finished the game, with the best grade appearing for completion under two hours.
This is quite different from, say, the record of completing Prime in just over an hour. That is possible but not intended, while in the case of the original series, finishing in under 2 hours is in fact the goal.
X-Play has just made it's brutally honest review on Other M:
Originally posted by Nemesis X
X-Play has just made it's brutally honest review on Other M:
Originally posted by Nemesis XX play is for losers. no matter how "honest" they are. (most of the time they are not.) X play isn't a true game reviewer and over hypes games like gears of war.
X-Play has just made it's brutally honest review on Other M:
Originally posted by General Kaliero
I would hardly call it a bonus objective. Metroid's tradition of a gradually less-covered Samus existed from the beginning of the series as a sort of "grade" on your completion. Right up until Fusion the better grades were tied entirely to how fast you finished the game, with the best grade appearing for completion under two hours.This is quite different from, say, the record of completing Prime in just over an hour. That is possible but not intended, while in the case of the original series, finishing in under 2 hours is in fact the goal.
Of course it is a bonus! It is something you are meant to do after you have completed it the first time.
Meanwhile, there have been a few bad reviews for this game; unusual for a Metroid. It's something that will have to be accepted.
Originally posted by RE: Blaxican
Say what you want about their credibility. I found their criticisms of the game to be pretty valid, personally. I was expecting someof those issues to be present though; it's Team Ninja. They don't know how to make a female character that isn't wallowing in feminity and sex appeal.
While I do agree that the terms "women" and "dignity" should never be used in the same sentence regarding Team Ninja, I kinda have yet to see any such traits from Samus in this game, at least to as much a level as what can be considered worth criticising, because from what I've seen, only idiots would take whatever they've made Samus into to a level beyond nitpicking, especially compared to Team Ninja's flagship lassies.
The biggest change I see in Samus' looks is a mole and high-heels, but I see no particular lack of what made her a standard among female protagonists in terms of personality or actions (she still seems pretty badass to me), her chest seems to still lack milk silos with seperate physics based on inch-by-inch movement of her character model, and last I checked, dat ass was there since ZSS was first conceived.
Nonetheless, I have yet to formally play the game, so if I'm missing anything, then by all means, enlighten me.
I played about an hour this morning before work. So far my only issue with Samus is that she says what she needs to say in one sentence, and then takes three paragraphs to say it again in many different ways.
But that's just Japanese storytelling, and I can't be terribly angry at a Japanese game for that.