you are a fanboy and whether you know it or not youre wanking, a whale is quite a bit denser than a human if we were that size we'd only be 30 tons compared to 100 tons, not only that but THE SAVIOR IS HOLLOW. did you even see the video I reccomended. Since when can mundus reality warp. He never did that and if he could he wouldve wiped dante and friends right off the chessboard. And if he didnt than that means he couldn't have at the time.
Yeah a total Dante wanker, thats why I saying Alex is faster and stronger than you came and claimed.. all part of the wank.
But is a whale denser than, I dunno.. stone? And no, its been proven that the Savior is in fact not hollow... and who mentioned Mundus? Though yes, creating Trish from nothing then changing the area they were in is Reality Warping.
HOLY SHIT IT'S ALEXZILLER AND JAMESZUKI!!!!
Question
How fast is this? The glass appears to stop in mid air.
Originally posted by Kuja9001
QuestionHow fast is this? The glass appears to stop in mid air.
It's stated to give Dante lightning speed.
^Pretty much this.
Thought for those that wont accept a lighting speed statement without off the bat; Mach 88 with casual swings, aka half lightning speed, most likely hitting that bolt mark at full speed. Either way confirming the statement.
Spoiler:
The glass was falling at 10m/s where to Dante it appeared to fall at 1mm/s (A bottom piece moved 1cm in the 10 second slashing), 1/10,000th the speed. From his view he did a few practice movements at 3m/s, this would make these movements 30,000m/s.
Originally posted by jcscs14
Yes theys are both fusion weapons get over your overrated bishi boy both a fusion weapon and a supernova have similar tempartures and both damn near disentigrate matter. ever see the sedan 1962 test site its not even destruction its just a giant spherical crater.
Right.....
Nuclear detonation temperatures reach into the tens of millions of Kelvins worth of temperature. A supernova, is around 100 BILLION Kelvins. Do you realise that we are talking a difference of about 10 orders of magnitude here in temeprature levels alone?
Originally posted by jcscs14
second off since when did the savior weigh anything near +1300 tons its only twice the size of a large whale which would given its human shape make it 100 tons.
No, because Saviour is much much larger than a demon that took the shape and size of a skyscraper.
Originally posted by jcscs14
And no anything less than 50 cal doesnt even damage mercer in armor at least on normal which by the way is a lot more challenging than the hardest difficulty on dmc.
Thats why 5.56mm M4 Assault Rifles work against him, amirite?
You've never played "Dante"Must Die" mode, obviously...
Originally posted by jcscs14
Not only that, dante cant even throw cars. Second off mercer is an atomic level shapeshifter who due to absorbing green has control over millions of hunters and infected, each of which are stronger physically than dante. Seriously Heller says "You send your pets to kill me", I say that because he commonly forms metals in his transformations, seriously whats stopping him from turning into a godzilla sized dragon and biting his head off which the only reason you cant do is for gameplay reasons.
I didn't know that the ability to throw vehicles was the sole provider of a strength feat...
Thats an interesting hypothesis on your part. here's mine: Even after absorbing Greene, and killing the Supreme Hunter on the Regan, every infected still tries to kill Alex, ergo, he has no control over them, at all.
Umm, the fact that Alex has NEVER transformed into such a state? Demonstration of ability is required, rather than speculation.
Originally posted by jcscs14
Dante has never faced anyone as physically overpowering as mercer and if you think a blackwatch assault rifle would shoot 5.56 youre a blooming ediot. Yeah he can pick up tanks after hes destroyed them youve clearly never played the game. He may not be as agil..............WHAT AM I SAYING HE RUNS UP THE SIDE OF VERTICAL STRUCTURES FOR GOD'S SAKE. if you have sprint max and you get him at full speed he can get from one end of manhattan to the other end in about 4 minutes of gameplay he is definitely faster in long distance by a MILE.
Ok Genius, what where they firing? Some sort of magical calibur bullet that instantly frays targets? What a complete and utter load of steaming crap that is...
So... A burned out wreck is the same weight as a complete M1 tank now? Seriously, much of the weight has been stripped off, including the treads and the turret by the time he gets a chance to lift the thing. That easily drops the weight by a third.
I'm guessing you don't see how he sticks to surfaces... Figures...
yeah, and we ALL know that Manhattan in game is the same size and shape as it is in real life, right?
Originally posted by jcscs14
what do you mean tanking, two hits from the savior on normal and hes dead............If you still think dante is more than a girly man watch asura's wrath giant gameplay it will blow you naive little mind.
I mean the cinematic where he stops Saviour's punch with one hand and does not move. Alex gets stunned repeatedly by hunters, both in game and in cinematic.
Originally posted by jcscs14
did you actually say density doesnt have anything to do with durability seriously are you in kindergarden.............Im not talking about atomic desity im talking about molecular density you know my naive little friend bonds and the sort that make the material graphene 200 times stronger than steel.Yeah i would like to see him even tickle prototype 2 Alex..............
*Shakes head* Do you even know the terms you use? Are you that sloppy with your research that you think suddenly that molecular or atomic density translates to being durable? Listen here. Even hard metals are brittle and capable of being rended by metals of less density and hardness. I've done enough corses through my long life to know the difference bitween density and durability. Now, the next time you want to try being smart, do your research first.
Originally posted by jcscs14
He was no more than a kilometer away, which for any nuclear weapon is ground zero.
You actually know how far the bomb sank beneath the water? Do tell! I mean it's not like he wasn't in a chopper flying away while the bomb was sinking into the sea.... Oh no! 🙄
I dont agree with jcscs but Dante is not "lightning speed", he cannot react or counter Vergils slow attack which knocks him over, yes he can do blind quick slashes that do not do much if any damage but when hes actually fighting things as slow as Nero just tossing a sword or Vergil tapping him with Yamato can knock him over also Dante does not stop Saviours fist with one hand, he uses the flat edge of his sword (which being able to take the force means its damn durable/absorbant) which does not even arguably stop it, Saviour freezes at that point anyway.
Not sure he has any feats of fighting at lightning speed or anything beyond peak human+, anything else is fan wank tbh. I mean hell, lady can react to Vergil, Dantes shown more scenes of him failing to react to vergil whos not even moving that quick.
Also the Alastor thing is explainable, for example it does not look like speed at all, it looks more like a kinetic field created by the static of the lightning holding the glass, Dante himself is moving fairly slow anyway, its also not repeatable as it only happens while the blast of energy moves around him which does not happen every time he uses Alastor.
Fact is if someone wants to hit him, Vergil, Jester, Nero and possibly lady among others have proven they can hit him, even with fairly slow attacks.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Also the Alastor thing is explainable, for example it does not look like speed at all, it looks more like a kinetic field created by the static of the lightning holding the glass, Dante himself is moving fairly slow anyway, its also not repeatable as it only happens while the blast of energy moves around him which does not happen every time he uses Alastor.
...the hell?
Kinetic field created by the static of the lightning as it holds the glass. Yes, this makes perfect sense and is physically possible.
It's like slashing your wrists with Occam's razor.
"Lady can react to Vergil"
And then a few seconds later Jester explains to the out of breath twins why he, and in that case Lady, could react to them.
"kinetic field.."
Stopped reading. Claiming fan wank then making up an ability, nice play there.
"Even I'm faster than Dante"
Yeah, just need to ignore 14 different Mach feats in favour of.. 2 explainable lower-end feats and we're good to go.
Originally posted by The Scenario
...the hell?Kinetic field created by the static of the lightning as it holds the glass. Yes, this makes perfect sense and is physically possible.
It's like slashing your wrists with Occam's razor.
Stasis fields are common in fiction, this looks like a stasis field. Buzz lightyear can do something like that with is gravity belt, Toy story 2 ftw!
Also you argue whats physically possible or impossible in DMC and in this scene in particular? hypocritical....
Originally posted by BloodRain
"Lady can react to Vergil"
And then a few seconds later Jester explains to the out of breath twins why he, and in that case Lady, could react to them."kinetic field.."
Stopped reading. Claiming fan wank then making up an ability, nice play there."Even I'm faster than Dante"
Yeah, just need to ignore 14 different Mach feats in favour of.. 2 explainable lower-end feats and we're good to go.
What so if their "out of breath" their instantly below a human being? Jester said they were weakened, thats about it therefore are possibly slower although that still does not cover the fact Vergil moving at roughply the same speed he did at the beginning of the game on Lady and her blocking it.
Ironic considering you love making up abilities for Dante all the time, 14 mach feats? lulz, also further lulz on the childish "stopped reading" then continued to post a quote and response to text after that line.
I dont know about me being faster, but lady is not far off in that scene and hes stopped by pretty much everyone with slower attacks, your inventing your own Dante now.
Originally posted by Burning thought
Stasis fields are common in fiction, this looks like a stasis field. Buzz lightyear can do something like that with is gravity belt, Toy story 2 ftw!
It happens in some fiction means it automatically applies to all fiction now? Buzz Lightyear has a legitimate explanation for his gravity field, i.e: the belt is known to do that. In this example we have Dante swing a sword, with no visible field, nor is any "static" actually touching the glass. In that way, it just comes across as something you made up to downplay it. Let's see, your example has Buzz surrounded by a vaguely blue spherical shield, Dead Space has a stasis field that surrounds thing in a blue glow as they slow down. What does Dante have surrounding him? Nothing. Your suggestion that the lightning was stopping the glass from falling not only has no basis in reality, it isn't even indicated in the cutscene, as seen when there is no lightning even near the glass throughout Dante's swings.
Also you argue whats physically possible or impossible in DMC and in this scene in particular? hypocritical....
Well, yes. Lightning can't actually do what you suggest, and there's no indication that there's anything supernatural going on to slow down the glass. Maybe you would have a point if there was visible "devil lightning" holding the glass up, but alas, there is not. What's hypocritical about that?
Originally posted by The Scenario
It happens in some fiction means it automatically applies to all fiction now? Buzz Lightyear has a legitimate explanation for his gravity field, i.e: the belt is known to do that. In this example we have Dante swing a sword, with no visible field, nor is any "static" actually touching the glass. In that way, it just comes across as something you made up to downplay it. Let's see, your example has Buzz surrounded by a vaguely blue spherical shield, Dead Space has a stasis field that surrounds thing in a blue glow as they slow down. What does Dante have surrounding him? Nothing. Your suggestion that the lightning was stopping the glass from falling not only has no basis in reality, it isn't even indicated in the cutscene, as seen when there is no lightning even near the glass throughout Dante's swings.Well, yes. Lightning can't actually do what you suggest, and there's no indication that there's anything supernatural going on to slow down the glass. Maybe you would have a point if there was visible "devil lightning" holding the glass up, but alas, there is not. What's hypocritical about that?
Its an explanation just as good as any and theres a visible effect when he lifts the sword and the blast that drops the glass. If he was swinging it with such speeds, the air pressure expanding outwards would knock the glass away or shatter it more, it doesnt affect the glass at all, hence why the stasis field idea which has present static energy and frozen glass shown more likely. Speed suggests air pressure, friction and heat, none of this is present and Dante is shown moving slowly, its just another claim/assumption worse than some form of stasis that were seeing it from his perception at that point. his clothes are also displaying slow speed, the guy wears a trench coat, it should be flying all over the place yet its as if hes wearing a body suit.
And lightning cant speed someone up either, my suggestion assumes that magic effect from the sword does this rather than make Dante move at tens of thousands meters per second lol....also nothing supernatural going on? is this a joke or more Scenario esque trolling because I think its clear something supernatural is going on. Just not for dantes speed or reaction times, which are just as slow as ususal and consistently shown in the games after.
The "affect" of the glass also stopped once Dante stopped moving, if this were reactions or speed then his sword would move further when he throws it in the air, it should infact go flying into the ceiling, then the glass "magically" drops all of a sudden.