Elektra vs. Steve Rogers

Started by jinzin10 pages

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Accept Cap statement is still greater then what you think. Your right Cap's hasn't seen it in there encounters but thats why he knew those times he wasn't in berserk to make that distinction. You wanted Logan so badly to have a wolf mind to try and derail it so he couldn't have been berserk. But he didn't have the mind of a wolf so no sale.

mind of a werewolf, feral minded... it's a matter of semantics that you're clinging to all over again.
Whatever title you want to give it doesn't change the simple facts... Wolverine wasn't in his right mind, he was overly aggressive, stupid, and he WASN'T in a berserker rage.

All of this has already been proven, but once again, you just say 'nu-uh" and call it a day... 🙄

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Yeah he supposed to be "unstoppable". Cap's not sure on that part but he knows he's in a berserker rage. I know of Logan's high feats Cap has his own and he held down Logan at that.

Uh, no... he's not sure about that part because he's never seen it before, he doesn't know Wolverine's R-raged, he assumes it... he also assumed Wolverine was imbued with magic... Way to go "enhanced minded" Cap. 😕

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Do you have proof that his berserker rage wasn't a berserker rage.

Uh... yeah... I think we've proven it about 5 times now... maybe you should go back and read it again...

Originally posted by Daredevil1
It was called that in the book and that has precedents over any theory you can think of. Yes he was mind controlled but he wasn't a wolf and he could talk unlike the wolves. Now if you have a statement from the book saying the mind control doesn't allow Wolverine to go into berserk. You might have a point. But lets face it you don't.
if it was by an impartial narrative, you may have a point. It wasn't.. it was a statement made by someone who has never seen Wolverine in a berserker rage.... Sweet. I guess Deadpool's the worlds greatest lover, Elektra's the worlds most dangerous assassin, and Wolverine's so much better than Cap.... 😐

The fact that Wolverine responded to commands is proof enough he wasn't in a berserker rage, nuff said.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Humans can be changed unless they have some fancy healing factor.
...uh....huh...... 🤨

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Yes. But Cap was changed into a wolf and even talked funny with RRRR's and such. Wasn't Logan changed into a wolf? Did Logan talk funny with lots of repeated letters in his words?
I can see you're having issues seeing the difference between having one's mental state changed as opposed to their physical state.... And yeah, Logan growled quite a bit.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
uh huh.

What when he's not trying to break them? or weakened? or wounded? or surrounded and outgunned?

The hell? I don't think you know what you're responding to at this point.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
I'll wait for the book to say that. Not you since you lack proof.
The proof you've blatently ignored? That proof?

yeah, Logan responded to commands.... berserker rage ftw? Uh no.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
But Wolverine didn't act like a wolf. He could talk unlike them and he wasn't turned into one of them. Yes he was mind controlled but thats it.
Uh yeah. he did... we talked about this already. He acted like them, was treated like them, and there was at least one reference of him being suited to be amonst them... great job.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Yeah wasn't able to block Moonstone. Moonstone isn't Wolverine.
Nope, he's the guy who was standing 5 feet away, announcing himself, casually walking up to Cap and popping a load in his neck.... Wolverine's the short little hairy guy on top of Cap holding him dead to rights.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Yet you haven't proven it by a true statement. Cap lost to a surprise attack from Moonstone. Agreed.
😂 🤣

A SURPRISE ATTACK?! LMAO... yup.... I know every time I lay out plans for an ambush I casually walk up to my prey while announcing myself... Like i said earlier you're desperate.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
And according to Elektra why is that? But then again according to you she's superhuman.
According to Elektra? because she was that good, and Logan didn't argue... read redeemer.

I take it that Elektra is far more formibable now, than when Bullseye killed her?

extremely more powerful since that fight.

The Cap'n makes it Hap'n

Originally posted by BUSTER1
I take it that Elektra is far more formibable now, than when Bullseye killed her?

Powerful enough to recently own Bullseye while she was injured, drugged, and poisoned.

Cap ftw in both

he's a high end top tier fighter with better physiology...

why is wolverine being discussed...

Originally posted by ankur29
Cap ftw in both

he's a high end top tier fighter with better physiology...

why is wolverine being discussed...

Well first, we say, "show me a skill/fighting/handspeed/reaction time/agility/speed feat Cap can do that Elektra couldn't" - Failing that, and ya will, it starts to look a little less clear cut that Cap> Elektra.

And because by Logans own admission, Elektra is > Him, and thus it leads to the Logan is more or less > Rogers, and so Elektra must be > Cap.

It's all very ABC to me, but apparently it's Logic - so im staying out of it 😛

Originally posted by Juk3n
Well first, we say, "show me a skill/fighting/handspeed/reaction time/agility/speed feat Cap can do that Elektra couldn't" - Failing that, and ya will, it starts to look a little less clear cut that Cap> Elektra.

And because by Logans own admission, Elektra is > Him, and thus it leads to the Logan is more or less > Rogers, and so Elektra must be > Cap.

It's all very ABC to me, but apparently it's Logic - so im staying out of it 😛

thing is it never been a three way fight , its not the same writer/artist for those comics so comparisons from different contexts wil have very little credibility as circumstances are different

i have noticed the undertone of this turninig into logan>cap ... those ppl should go to logan vs cap thread