Elektra vs. Steve Rogers

Started by Phantom Zone10 pages

Originally posted by jinzin
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Elektra wasn't dodging, so the fact that it was a program vs. human is irrelevant because his aim was irrelevant.

Yeah I know a computer designed to give Cap a challenge is probably going to have faster reaction times than a trained human but its not relevant because she wasn't dodging. Ha ha!

Originally posted by jinzin

What WAS relevant however is that Elektra was able to parry machine gun bullets with the surface area of her sai.

Yeah ssssssure. Lets forget that Avengers computer > Trained human + lasers > bullets.

Originally posted by jinzin
Regardless of what you would like to pretend it is a VASTLY more impressive speed feat coupled with accuracy than anything Cap bolsters.

Its more impressive.

http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/8581/avengers17004yb3.jpg

It even looks like hes blocking them at point blank range and having a conversation. He also stated that the beams were firing at a rapid rate and therefore its like a laser machine gun.

Tony Starks robot >> Human
Concussion beams >> Bullets

Oh and this is Cap dodging lasers while falling. Also robots > humans

http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/4413/captainamerica26604ff3.jpg

peaches

Steve gives this broad a star spangled punt to the c...errrr....ovaries.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Cap is right and you are wrong.

You say Logan had the mind of a wolf. Prove it. I'll give you the chance just like last time. Show me a scan saying he has a wolfs mind in this arch. I already proved he's berserk.


No Cap not right at all. For starters when has capt ever seen wolverine beserker? How would he know what it looks like? He jump the that conclusion because wolverine was attacking him, not because he any authority on the matter. Your trying to tell me capt can tell when wolverine berserker when Cyclopes, emma ect. People who know him vastly better and have seen him berserker many times can’t correctly identify when he berserker but capt who never seen it before can? Also Logan cant be mind control when he berserker that a lone proves he was not berserker. He actually has used berserker to break mind control and telepathic attacks. Not to mention the fact Logan highly intelligent while berserker he not an idiot, which is a misconception of berserker wolverine.

Logan mind was not that of a werewolf? Really then why could he not talk or reason at all? And was acting just like all the werewolfs?

Originally posted by Daredevil1

Gotta get shield in position must move(as he was interrupted by Moonstone). He was in position to defend himself. Wolverines not holding down his arms. You'll twist anything.

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If wolverine was not supposes to simply subdue capt but kill him capt would be dead. Look at the scan right before moonstone shoot capt with the thingy. Moon stones standing, while wolverine has capt pinned down and his claw up ready to finish capt. Now moonstone who is slower then wolverine was able to bend down and stick capt with the dart…….meaning wolverine easily in the amount of time could have killed capt and there nothing capt could have done. Also capt shield is on the other side of would arm inorder for him to get it in place he have to move wolverines arm which is pinning him down all before wolverine slashed down wards…………

Steve vs. Logan

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lol

explain what happen their, i know logan is telling cap a story ala flashback. i know logan is holding back in the fight. i also know cap in his early yrs was a crappy fighter that he couldnt beat a group of hand ninjas in the 1941 in mandripoor.

capt was not a crappy fighter back then. also it was a joke lol

well, he wasnt as skilled as he is now and still only knew what he was taught by his military instructors.

Originally posted by Battlehammer

Logan mind was not that of a werewolf? Really then why could he not talk or reason at all? And was acting just like all the werewolfs?

just because he was not talking does not mean he had the mind of a werewolf or that he didn't use skills

I'm honestly surprised Alfheim didn't cite Cap outrunning three speeding bullets in the "Who's Faster" argument, considering that's probably the best legit speed feat any street-leveler can claim.

Originally posted by Accel
I'm honestly surprised Alfheim didn't cite Cap outrunning three speeding bullets in the "Who's Faster" argument, considering that's probably the best legit speed feat any street-leveler can claim.
thats PIS if it did happen...no street leveler should even be anywhere near the speed of a bullet

I don't take it seriously, but if people are really going to get into a pissing contest comparing who's dodged bullets easier than whom, Cap's got just about any one beat with that.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
No Cap not right at all. For starters when has capt ever seen wolverine beserker? How would he know what it looks like? He jump the that conclusion because wolverine was attacking him, not because he any authority on the matter. Your trying to tell me capt can tell when wolverine berserker when Cyclopes, emma ect. People who know him vastly better and have seen him berserker many times can’t correctly identify when he berserker but capt who never seen it before can? Also Logan cant be mind control when he berserker that a lone proves he was not berserker. He actually has used berserker to break mind control and telepathic attacks. Not to mention the fact Logan highly intelligent while berserker he not an idiot, which is a misconception of berserker wolverine.

Find me a quote that saids he wasn't berserker. Other wise story statement >>>>> then yours no matter how you spin it.

Logan mind was not that of a werewolf? Really then why could he not talk or reason at all? And was acting just like all the werewolfs?

And you would be wrong he did talk. When he was locked up he was yelling at Cap. to let him out or he would cut him to ribbons. Moonhunter he was also mind controlled like Logan released him. I guess you didn't read the arc.

For them to have the mind of a wolf that have to become a wolf. All the others became wolfs so they had the mind of wolves. Cap became a wolf so he had the mind of a wolf. Logan they tried turning him into a wolf but his healing factor rejected the wolf serum. It never worked.

If wolverine was not supposes to simply subdue capt but kill him capt would be dead. Look at the scan right before moonstone shoot capt with the thingy. Moon stones standing, while wolverine has capt pinned down and his claw up ready to finish capt. Now moonstone who is slower then wolverine was able to bend down and stick capt with the dart…….meaning wolverine easily in the amount of time could have killed capt and there nothing capt could have done. Also capt shield is on the other side of would arm inorder for him to get it in place he have to move wolverines arm which is pinning him down all before wolverine slashed down wards…………

Cap could have easily gone around the arm not that difficult since Logan isn't grabbing his arm. Thats was Cap's plan before Moonhunter interfered. Otherwise your theory is wrong just like Logan not being in berserk. Cap's quote >>>there your non continuity words. Find your theory in a book then maybe it will mean something.

Originally posted by Accel
I'm honestly surprised Alfheim didn't cite Cap outrunning three speeding bullets in the "Who's Faster" argument, considering that's probably the best legit speed feat any street-leveler can claim.

I hope that wasn't mean't as an insult.

^Don't you think that was a bit too harsh?

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
^Don't you think that was a bit too harsh?

It looked like...actually maybe you're right. I might have taken it the wrong way.

Originally posted by Starscream M
thats PIS if it did happen...no street leveler should even be anywhere near the speed of a bullet

I would think its possible under extreme duress. For me thats one of the reasons why street levlers can hit speedsters.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
It looked like...actually maybe you're right. I might have taken it the wrong way.

You kind of did....

At least you edited it.

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
You kind of did....

Fair enough. I respect the fact you're civil enough to give a shit. 👆

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Fair enough. I respect the fact you're civil enough to give a shit. 👆

Thank you, I think...

Lol!

Its good to see people being civil on here.