and it doesn't matter that much. Bane will be on him before he gets off 6 blasts. Unless they start like on the opposite corners of the galaxy.
Bane imo can take a few blasts. Hes not going down that fast. Besides the orbalisks should handle them pretty easily. And if they don't, he(Bane) can dodge, or FL kun. idk.. Bane seems capable enough to protect himself from a few blasts of force energy.
Those "few blasts of Force energy," almost as soon as neophyte Kun starts firing them, rip holes through temple walls and "double in power" with every pulse. Bane may very well be able to survive the first couple of blasts - which don't seem to be all that much more powerful than some very, very strong telekinetic attacks - but he isn't running through them, and if he tries tanking much past that he's going to get his head blown off.
Originally posted by Eminence
Those "few blasts of Force energy," almost as soon as neophyte Kun starts firing them, rip holes through temple walls and "double in power" with every pulse. Bane may very well be able to survive the first couple of blasts - which don't seem to be all that much more powerful than some very, very strong telekinetic attacks - but he isn't running through them, and if he tries tanking much past that he's going to get his head blown off.
Just to reinforce this, here's what Kun was fighting:
Notice the size of that thing.
^ The beginning few blasts from Kun's amulet, before he even realizes how to use it properly, blow huge chunks in the massive stone temple he's currently in.
As Kun begins to use the blasts more, their power builds, feeding off of his own, and he pretty much owns the Sith beast. Notice how the beam 'spreads' large enough to be comparable to the wyrm's head.
The aftermath of Kun's extremely mobile and quick blitzkrieg pretty much leveled the massive temple and killed everything in sight. He also casually destroys a Sith spirit of immense power, which implies that the amulet may either have additional powers or it may enhance his Force ability by some degree enough to let him overcome Nadd.
Honestly? I realize that the orbalisks make Bane virtually invincible to most, but those amulet blasts are simply too large and too powerful. And there's no apparent recharge time, so he can spam those a couple of times while clearly being mobile. He's not going to just stand there and get sliced in half.
Can you prove what you state about the recharge time or spamming them endlessly, because still panels in comics are not great indications of the passage of time. Kun has never faced an opponent worth a damn with the amulets, which Bane certainly is, and I believe we can say with pretty solid certainty Bane has demonstrated speed superior to Kun...enough to dodge the blasts.
Oh, and the comment in the comic: "Kun turns the amulet against his mentor" implies the amulet is what's destroying Nadd
LightsnakeI don't know about "no" recharge time, but with absolutely zero experience he manages to fire off at least five or six pulses while being flung around a cavern by Sadow's take on Godzilla. Still panels or not, the comic makes it very clear that the amulet isn't slow, and there's no indication of fatigue from use on Kun's part; to the contrary, the weapon grows exponentially more powerful with use.
Can you prove what you state about the recharge time or spamming them endlessly, because still panels in comics are not great indications of the passage of time.
LightsnakeVader has never faced an opponent worth a damn with Force choke [iirc]. Sidious has never faced an opponent worth a damn with his Force storm [never directed at Luke in combat]. [insert conclusion here].
Kun has never faced an opponent worth a damn with the amulets, which Bane certainly is,
It doesn't work.
LightsnakeAgain, granting Bane some sort of an advantage here assumes that he can run to or away from Kun faster than Kun can wave his hand.
and I believe we can say with pretty solid certainty Bane has demonstrated speed superior to Kun...enough to dodge the blasts.
Let's be real here, the amulet blasts could be considered ridiculously powerful by some standards and have been shown to be extremely effective on a pretty small scale but Bane's displayed to be in an entirely different league. He absorbed, contained (protecting himself internally simultaneously) and redirected a planetary level of energy, which shows that he's capable of operating at a much higher level of power than what the amulets have been shown to dish out, so the idea that he can't simply use the Force to defend himself against them is a tad silly. I'm not saying he can definitely do it but the odds that he can't are minimal.
Originally posted by SIDIOUS 66
Not before Sidious just opens a wormhole in Bane's stomach instantly. (Mere thought)
Not when Bane can just run right behind him (moving faster than Sidious can see) before Sidious completes that thought, subatomically creates a reactor shaft and force pushes Sidious down it.
Touche my friend.
Originally posted by SAENBRSidious is the master at foreseeing. He will know what Bane is gonna do before he does it. Sidious will just suck Bane's life essence from him.
Not when Bane can just run right behind him (moving faster than Sidious can see) before Sidious completes that thought, subatomically creates a reactor shaft and force pushes Sidious down it.Touche my friend.
Sidious: The avatar of darkness. The sith of unmatched power.
Oh, and as for Kun and Bane, I have to go with Bane here. Kun has only one advantage, which are his amulets. Bane is superior in TK, lightning, and physical strength and prowess.
Then again, Kun was a master of sorcery, and Bane was weak at that. This is a tuff one to decide.
Bane is superior in Force Lightning? Source? Whereas for Kun...Although he never demonstrated it, The Dark Side Sourcebook claimed that Exar Kun was a master of Force lightning.
Minus this bit After just learning the technique of Force lightning from Githany, he became extremely proficient with it. The electric voltage of the lightning he cast was so strong most opponents died instantly upon contact and their bodies literally became burned and charred.
Originally posted by Eminence
I don't know about "no" recharge time, but with absolutely zero experience he manages to fire off at least five or six pulses while being flung around a cavern by Sadow's take on Godzilla. Still panels or not, the comic makes it very clear that the amulet isn't slow, and there's no indication of fatigue from use on Kun's part; to the contrary, the weapon grows exponentially more powerful with use.
Vader has never faced an opponent worth a damn with Force choke [iirc]. Sidious has never faced an opponent worth a damn with his Force storm [never directed at Luke in combat]. [insert conclusion here].
It doesn't work.Again, granting Bane some sort of an advantage here assumes that he can run to or away from Kun faster than Kun can wave his hand.
'After just learning the technique of Force lightning from Githany, he became extremely proficient with it. The electric voltage of the lightning he cast was so strong most opponents died instantly upon contact and their bodies literally became burned and charred.'
The only other person who's approached this feat in the mythos is Sidious. Other users only achieve small burns, stunning or light damage. Bane almost literally vaporises his victims.