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Lord of the Great Abyss
Originally posted by tkitna
I'm not trying to explain fights against common foes and Namors billion more appearances. Wonder Man has done just fine against higher end foes. He gave Thor as much as he could handle, hurt Nefaria (I doubt Namor could have done that), and flat out made the Thing look like 90 lb. weakling. I know Namors a tough customer, I just think a correctly written Simon would take a majority.
Again, against COMMON FOES, Namor has done better. It's a fact. Whether you accept it or not, I don't care.
Simon made Thing look weak? Did you even read the comic? Thing was trouncing him and Xemu had to jump in and help Simon out. In fact, it was Xemu that warped that weight around Thing and allowed Simon to catch his breath and renew his attack. Yes, you can argue that Simon was mindcontrolled but Thing was HOLDING BACK not wanting to hurt Simon AND Simon had help MULTIPLE TIMES from Xemu.
The Sentry that was beating Namor around was coherent and not Voidtry.
Yes, that was a HIGH END SENTRY. Someone I just admitted Namor has zero business fighting.
Namor has no chance against any incarnation of Sentry. I'm just pointing this out because you seem to feel so proud of yourself that Namor so called tooled the Sentry along with WM and Ares. I'm glad to see that even you are admitting that it was bullshit and you should probably quit bringing it up.Oh God. You mean the comic relief writing that was the Hercules book? Who wrote that Pak? If so, enough said. Sentry wasn't even trying in the least against Hercules. You should be ashamed to even bring that up.
Apparently Namor DOES have a chance against lesser versions of Sentry because he tooled him on panel, just like Hercules did.
So you still want to use that as ammo for your argument although even you admitted Namor has no business messing with Sentry, yet the other two included? If those three characters meant business, Namor would die very quikly.
Well we KNOW at least one of those characters meant business and was out for blood vs Namor. Namor shut him down and tooled Simon and held his own vs "angsty" Sentry.
Hmm, how many times have Simon and Herc fought? I remember they exchanged punches and went out for beers. I remember Herc also ramming a quinjet down his throat when he was pretty much in some warrior madness state. Namor probably had more encounters. I just remember them fighting when Hercules wasn't trying to hurt him, but rather get him out of his depression. I also remember Namor admitting Hercules was stronger then him under water once (yikes). I don't see any clear cut winner there.
They really only fought once and Hercules broke his phucking face. Namor and Herc fought multiple times and Namor more than held his own. All you have to do is google "Namor vs Hercules".
Yeah Simon struggled. Overconfident and busy being a movie star. A bit rusty if I remember correctly.
Yeah and Namor just got through fighting Hercules with other Avengers like Vision and Thunderstrike taking potshots at him, then when they peaced it up, Namor was jumped by Abomination.
I'm sure he did. Namor and the Hulk fought about once a month ever since the 70's and those are great feats for him. Wont deny that. Doesn't mean I think he can beat Simon for a majority though. Simon is strong and durable enough to be knocked clear through planets and even a sun. I cant see Namor holding up under that kind of abuse.
Simon had his ARM BROKE in that fight with Hyperion that shook a "planetoid". Then he DIED when Hyperion pushed him through that PLANETOID and into the Sun. What's so great about that showing?
Namor fought Behemoth and it was causing PLANET wide earthquakes on Earth. Google the difference between a PLANETOID and a PLANET and tell me which is the more impressive feat. As a bonus, Namor didn't get his arm broke or die.
Hey, its a good fight. I just think Simon edges him out.
Believe what you want, I don't care. Just stop ignoring on panel evidence because you don't like the outcome.
