Solid Snake vs Sam Fisher

Started by Allankles10 pages

I think Sam has the slight edge in stealth. He's the one who's shown ninjistu-like maneuvers in stealth. Thing's like wall splits, upside down neck breaks and marksmanship.

Using his winch to infiltrate building from the outside through the windows or come down from rooftops like a spider.

Also let's not forget that Sam has a satcom, which connects to satellites giving him a view of human beings in an area. I don't know if Snake's tech protects him from thermal vision.

^Snake broke a neck with his leg. While taking on almost a dozen gunmen at once singlehandedly. And yes, octocamo is almost specifically made to block thermal vision.

The fact that Snake doesn't resort to the shadows as often is a testament to his superiority in the stealth department.

Now that's better.

What about the fact that Snake doesn't need to do any of those things to be stealthy.

Originally posted by Allankles

Also let's not forget that Sam has a satcom, which connects to satellites giving him a view of human beings in an area. I don't know if Snake's tech protects him from thermal vision.

It does.

Originally posted by First_Tsurugi06
^Snake broke a neck with his leg. While taking on almost a dozen gunmen at once singlehandedly. And yes, octocamo is almost specifically made to block thermal vision.

The fact that Snake doesn't resort to the shadows as often is a testament to his superiority in the stealth department.

Sam is the type of agent who goes in and out without alerting anyone. He doesn't get into shoot outs except in one instance with a boss battle with Grienko.

He gets in and out, if he's sent to kill a target he does it with minimum fuss. Sabotage a missile or weapon? He does it no hassles, even when he's cornered he maintains his cover. He never blows cover, can't afford to.

Also let's not forget Sam's remote weapons, he doesn't have to be shooting or fighting to take out Snake he can do it with remote surveillance gear.

Originally posted by Allankles
Sam is the type of agent who goes in and out without alerting anyone. He doesn't get into shoot outs except in one instance with a boss battle with Grienko.

He gets in and out, if he's sent to kill a target he does it with minimum fuss. Sabotage a missile or weapon? He does it no hassles, even when he's cornered he maintains his cover. He never blows cover, can't afford to.

Neither does Snake.

Originally posted by King-Fingolfin
Neither does Snake.

I'd say several of his battles disagree with you.

He gets in regular boss battles, kills them quickly, then continues on his magical sneaking mission.

He's been in like, 5 fire fights in the whole series, and those were in situations neither him, nor Sam would be able to avoid.

Originally posted by Allankles
Also let's not forget Sam's remote weapons, he doesn't have to be shooting or fighting to take out Snake he can do it with remote surveillance gear.

Metal Gear MK. II says hi. A reconnaisanse robot with stealth camo and a stun whip controlled through a PS3 controller.

Originally posted by First_Tsurugi06
Metal Gear MK. II says hi. A reconnaisanse robot with stealth camo and a stun whip controlled through a PS3 controller.

Sam has emp proximity mines for that. I'd rather take Sam's surveillance gear strategically placed on access points being monitored through the opsat.

Originally posted by King-Fingolfin
He gets in regular boss battles, kills them quickly, then continues on his magical sneaking mission.

He's been in like, 5 fire fights in the whole series, and those were in situations neither him, nor Sam would be able to avoid.

I played MGS 1 and 3. And Sam would have handled a lot of those situations differently, I'd say Sam is more vigilant. Those shoot outs with Ocelot and co., Sam based on his games would be a mile away with a sniper.

Greiko was unavoidable as Sam was releasing hostages and he was caught in a confined space.

Originally posted by Allankles
Sam has emp proximity mines for that. I'd rather take Sam's surveillance gear strategically placed on access points being monitored through the opsat.

MK II can detect such things to my recollection.

From what I can tell, Snake has the ability to be as stealthy as ****, but chooses not to, allot of the time taking risks or just not giving a shit.

So if he had to, he could beat Sam with stealth.

Originally posted by FeelGood
From what I can tell, Snake has the ability to be as stealthy as ****, but chooses not to, allot of the time taking risks or just not giving a shit.

So if he had to, he could beat Sam with stealth.

He could, but based on evidence Sam is better at it.

Snake>>>>>>>>>>Sam.
End of story.

Originally posted by SamZED
Snake>>>>>>>>>>Sam.
End of story.

Yet Bullet > Snake.

Story to be continued.

Bullet>Snake?

The guy has dodged gatling gun fire...

Indeed ✅

Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl!
[b]Yet Bullet > Snake.

Story to be continued. [/B]

No they aren't. Bullets >>> Sam. And Snake dodges bullets with ease, even sniper bullets, even michinegun fire. So even if Sam is the first to open fire Snake will just dodge it and then blow Sams brains out. But my bet is Snake shoots him first. Either way Snake kills him.