Originally posted by SamZEDIf they would meet face-to-face, that is the only outcome.
No they aren't. Bullets >>> Sam. And Snake dodges bullets with ease, even sniper bullets, even michinegun fire. So even if Sam is the first to open fire Snake will just dodge it and then blow Sams brains out. But my bet is Snake shoots him first. Either way Snake kills him.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Snake superhuman? And not just "almost superhuman"? I've seen the game. Several of them, and large sections at that. I'm insulted that you think I'd speak so confidently against something that I don't know anything about.
Like I said, I haven't played it. I aim higher. I have better games to play.
LOL
So high and mighty. Well you are still trying to defend Sam in a way you are, so your right to be insulted.
Originally posted by Allankles
I think Sam has the slight edge in stealth. He's the one who's shown ninjistu-like maneuvers in stealth. Thing's like wall splits, upside down neck breaks and marksmanship.Using his winch to infiltrate building from the outside through the windows or come down from rooftops like a spider.
Also let's not forget that Sam has a satcom, which connects to satellites giving him a view of human beings in an area. I don't know if Snake's tech protects him from thermal vision.
At least that guy actually made me wonder and consider it.
Originally posted by FeelGood
LOLSo high and mighty. Well you are still trying to defend Sam in a way you are, so your right to be insulted.
At least that guy actually made me wonder and consider it.
Are you justifying offensive behaviour? I have debated enough Solid Snake to know what he is capable of. Don't misstake me for an idiot merely because I haven't played the game.
The so far only new things to me in this thread is the fact that he can go virtually invisible thanks to his suit, and that he is shielded from Sam's googles.
Nothing else in this thread is news to me. But yes, still I debate in favor of Sam because I think he has better stealth technique. When you prove to me that Snake can dodge a silenced gun from behind, you've conquered my only reason to why I still debate in favor of Sam.
Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl!You aim higher than MGS? Now THAT is an insult to any MGS fan. Esoecially if by "higher" you mean splinter cell. And you really shouldn't argue if your knowledge on the subject is so limited. No offence...
[b]Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Snake superhuman? And not just "almost superhuman"? I've seen the game. Several of them, and large sections at that. I'm insulted that you think I'd speak so confidently against something that I don't know anything about.Like I said, I haven't played it. I aim higher. I have better games to play.
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Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl!
[b]Are you justifying offensive behaviour? I have debated enough Solid Snake to know what he is capable of. Don't misstake me for an idiot merely because I haven't played the game.The so far only new things to me in this thread is the fact that he can go virtually invisible thanks to his suit, and that he is shielded from Sam's googles.
Nothing else in this thread is news to me. But yes, still I debate in favor of Sam because I think he has better stealth technique. When you prove to me that Snake can dodge a silenced gun from behind, you've conquered my only reason to why I still debate in favor of Sam.
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He has better techniques because Snake doesn't need them, he's just better.
Snake wont let Sam get close enough for Sam to fire at him. Bring in some evidence of Sam being able to sneak up on Snake.
Sam wont be able to Sneak up with him. Then when Snake finds out Sam's close:
So yes Snake dodges a bullet up close. 🙂
From behind? Possibly because he will know hes there if he somehow gets behind him, stop underestimating Snake.
Originally posted by FeelGoodIt always bothered me how japanese games creators think that russian chicks do not shave armpits. 😘 wtf with that??
Sam wont be able to Sneak up with him. Then when Snake finds out Sam's close:So yes Snake dodges a bullet up close. 🙂
From behind? Possibly because he will know hes there if he somehow gets behind him, stop underestimating Snake.
Originally posted by SamZED
You aim higher than MGS? Now THAT is an insult to any MGS fan. Esoecially if by "higher" you mean splinter cell. And you really shouldn't argue if your knowledge on the subject is so limited. No offence...
Splinter Cell isn't higher. I don't like either game (Or character).
What's so limited about my knowledge? I didn't know he could go invisible. Big deal.
Originally posted by FeelGood
He has better techniques because Snake doesn't need them, he's just better.Snake wont let Sam get close enough for Sam to fire at him. Bring in some evidence of Sam being able to sneak up on Snake.
Doesn't need them against the foes he battle. Sam is an adept stealth agent.
Again, Sam's showing at 1:00 in the video I posted is my main source of confidence. If Snake can detect such techniques, Sam got nothing.
Originally posted by C. C. Cowgirl!
[b]Splinter Cell isn't higher. I don't like either game (Or character).What's so limited about my knowledge? I didn't know he could go invisible. Big deal.
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Your loss, Princess.
That alone makes him superior in stealth, among other means, and why what happened at 1:00 in your video would never apply to Snake in the first place, ruling out the fact that you're comparing the clone of the greatest soldier of the twentieth century to a grunt on patrol.
PS. And before you may take offense at the Princess crack, I think you know what I'm referring to.
As for the guy Sam killed in the snow, he was a rival stealth agent not a grunt. Grunts don't carry state of the art stealth tech and weapons.
Also I don't think bullet dodging is relevant. If Sam starts firing and Snake is exposed without cover, he's dead. Snake is not Superman, hell he's nowhere near as fast as meta humans like Wolverine or Blade.
The only way Snake doesn't get hit by a bullet in that scenario is if he shoots first or dives ahead of the person aiming.
Batman has "dodged" gatling guns but that has nothing to do with avoiding hundreds of bullets, that's just moving ahead of the gun's aim.
Originally posted by Allankles
As for the guy Sam killed in the snow, he was a rival stealth agent not a grunt. Grunts don't carry state of the art stealth tech and weapons.Also I don't think bullet dodging is relevant. If Sam starts firing and Snake is exposed without cover, he's dead. Snake is not Superman, hell he's nowhere near as fast as meta humans like Wolverine or Blade.
The only way Snake doesn't get hit by a bullet in that scenario is if he shoots first or dives ahead of the person aiming.
Batman has "dodged" gatling guns but that has nothing to do with avoiding hundreds of bullets, that's just moving ahead of the gun's aim.
His own fault for standing in the snow like that. Snake's not so nonchalant.
Again, there's less a chance for Sam being able to uncover Snake than there is for Snake to actually have to dodge a bullet. There's been no given scenario in the OP to give Sam such an advantage against Snake. And Sam is even moreso inferior to the aforementioned characters, so there's little point to support in the first place.
Read above.
It's a testament to superior agility.