Originally posted by Ryo 666
Exactly so a man fast enough to dodge bullets pretty close has no trouble with a normal man.Did you really HAVE to have that explained to you?
This dodging-bullet feat you're talking about. I'd like to see it.
I'm not sure what explaining you've done as of late. Could you point it out to me? All I see are hypothetical outcomes as result of a scenario you have created. You're throwing irrelevant facts left and right.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7DSWWtx4Yk
3 minutes in about.
WTF the snow bit is because Cowgirl tried using it as a reason why Sam could win. Hypothetical my ass, try actually researching some of the thread. 🙄
Originally posted by Ryo 666
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7DSWWtx4Yk3 minutes in about.
WTF the snow bit is because Cowgirl tried using it as a reason why Sam could win. Hypothetical my ass, try actually researching some of the thread. 🙄
That dodge feat doesn't suffice to keep Snake as certain a winner as you find him to be.
I agree with her. The snow feat is all that it really takes for Sam to win this. Snake never stood a chance in the first matchup.
Originally posted by Ryo 666
Why didn't he have a chance? Is it him doing more impressive stuff easier that got him the loss?
Again with the irrelevance. Don't you people ever learn what's relevant and what isn't? Snake could've killed God himself for all I care. He doesn't have the advantage in the first fight. Sam does.
Originally posted by Ryo 666
Then tell me what is revelnt, instead of just repeating yourself.Have you played these games either or do you use wiki for everything? 🙄
How about you stop making me repeat myself and bring up feats that actually help Snake? A relevant feat is a feat that allows Snake to survive against Sam in a winter scenario. The fact that Snake doesn't need to hide is irrelevant entirely. Snake to my knowledge never fought someone as talented as Fisher.
I have played neither of these games.
Originally posted by Ryo 666
Maybe he hasn't but Sam hasn't faced anyone as skilled, fast, strong, etc etc etc. As you can see it can be turned against you.Play the games, see what Snake does regularly. Stop trying to get everyone else to educate you.
And once again try playing the games before suddenly deciding who wins.
If you aren't ready to educate, don't participate in a versus debate. You can't expect everyone to know everything you know.
Snake, skilled as he is, isn't as skilled as Sam. So your strongpoint falls right there. Speed and strength is nothing without talent. And talent, in the situation given, is something Sam surpass Snake at.
I don't need to play the game(s). There are people on these forums that have been ready to educate those that hasn't played it, so I have in my head a lot of the most significant Snake information for this battle, just like how I have the most significant Sam data. And truth be told, Snake isn't as talented as Sam. Not in the field of stealth.
Originally posted by Q'Anilia
If you aren't ready to educate, don't participate in a versus debate. You can't expect everyone to know everything you know.Snake, skilled as he is, isn't as skilled as Sam. So your strongpoint falls right there. Speed and strength is nothing without talent. And talent, in the situation given, is something Sam surpass Snake at.
I don't need to play the game(s). There are people on these forums that have been ready to educate those that hasn't played it, so I have in my head a lot of the most significant Snake information for this battle, just like how I have the most significant Sam data. And truth be told, Snake isn't as talented as Sam. Not in the field of stealth.
No but if they're trying to debate about 2 characters its expected they have actually played the games. Don't mind educating but I'm not going to go out of my way for someone who doesn't even care enough about the cha caters or games to play them.
Who's to say hes not as skilled as Sam, with you massive amount of info on both whos to say hes not as skilled as Sam?
That's your opinion, and just listening to people doesn't educate you like playing it does.
Originally posted by Ryo 666
No but if they're trying to debate about 2 characters its expected they have actually played the games. Don't mind educating but I'm not going to go out of my way for someone who doesn't even care enough about the cha caters or games to play them.Who's to say hes not as skilled as Sam, with you massive amount of info on both whos to say hes not as skilled as Sam?
That's your opinion, and just listening to people doesn't educate you like playing it does.
I have a response, but I'll go ahead and not write it, due to the fact that I can't possibly know what I'm talking about. After all, I haven't played the game. So I won't waste your time.
Originally posted by Ryo 666
👆Also I did notice you suddenly agreeing to be quiet when asked for proof.
Don't be a fool. It's faulty logic that drove you to that conclusion.
Sam Fisher is not the better soldier of the two, but he is the better stealth agent. The fact that Snake doesn't need his stealth to manage does not work in his favor on that matter.
Sam will win the first one. Snake might pull of the second fight but certainly wins the third.