Transformers 2 reviews, what did everyone think?

Originally posted by darthmaul1
OMG! you must be eating the same brownie that Sams mother was eating! 😂 You actually think Transformers was put together better than Star Trek? You couldn't be more wrong there.

If i did say i missed it the only reason was because it was mumbled and YOU are the one that said you had the buy the comic to know that bumblebee had lost his voice before the movie!
I was stating that Lucas never did anything like that, with his premerchandising.
Also please do name the problems and plot holes you had with Star Trek. Maybe SnakeEyes and I can help you there 🧑‍⚕️

I have a wide range of humor, from Cable Guy (Jim Carrey's funniest film) to Montey Python and the Holy Grail and I will admit some of the humor in transformers was FUNNY, but after a while it got to be a bit much and just stupid, with the humping transformer, simmons ass and the transformer with balls.

FYI i just watched that scene online with bumblebee's voice problem and all i got out of that was Mikala saying he's still having voice problems and that is all.

I didn't read any of that. I'm done with you.

Come back once you've watched the movie about 20 more times.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I didn't read any of that. I'm done with you.

Come back once you've watched the movie about 20 more times.

Fine by me, and that means you concede, so myself and SnakeEyes win.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3i1GH5Y7-i0&feature=related

FYI no way in hell will i watch that movie 20 more times until i download a good copy in a few months time and edit it to be about 30 minutes long.

There are a few movies which i have watched more than 20 times some of which are.

Star Wars
Star Trek
Lord of the Rings
Jaws
Hunt for Red October
Predator
Aliens
Indiana Jones
Terminator
Matrix

Maybe in a few years the first Transformers movie might be in that list too.

All of these are leaps and bounds better than Revenge of the Fallen.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Thanks man.

You're usually on the same page I am with every movie...it's almost uncanny.

no prob..

Then it's your being dense is the fault of the misunderstanding.

BTW, my wife watched Transformers, today. I see a "careful" Optimus taking it in the ass for the humans in a "crunched-up" area. Odd how you can't see what was right in front of your face.

"NUH UUUHH!! HE TOOOOTALLY DIDN'T FIGHT AT ALL IN TEH FIRST ONE!"

😆

nice to see your such a huge michael bay fanboy that your willing to stick to a dumb @ss lie which you know isn't true to cover up the huge holes in the plot. nothing you say will convince me that prime was "holding back" in the city fight, he was being flung thru buildings which was just as damaging as him smashing megatron thru buildings... if he was anywhere close to the power level he is at in the second movie he would make quick work of megatron and kill him with less casualties. also in the end Sam had to save optimus by killing megatron with the cube, he couldn't defeat megatron this was the plan if he failed at defeating him..his own words.

why are you getting so defensive and uptight anyway?

How many autobots died. 😐

you miss my point

Thank you for conceding the point in the most assbackwards way possible. 🙂

Also, you can't claim what it was meant to be or not meant to be. Very few people can make that claim, and you're not one of them.

you clearly are one of them right? lol

No, you're just hating for the sake of doing so. That entire point is bullshit, and you know it. 😉 I called your bullshit, now just admit you were hating and bullshitting and move on.

perhaps your too immature to handle someone dissagreeing with you, so you have to throw your toys out of your little cot whenever you hear an opinion contrary to yours?

Your opinion is factually incorrect, then. It must suck to be clueless and out of touch with reality.

out of touch with reality? lol you just said my opinion is factually incorrect? rotfl.... by your logic one's opinion can be wrong when it isn't yours? nice 🙂

All this debate about Prime vs. Megatron fights - reading too much into it. It's not like in the old series, every fight went the exact same way. In the early episodes actually, Megatron actually won out a few skirmishes. Prime started getting the better of him in the later years. Maybe the films are just reflecting that. The first one, Megatron was at full power ( and was really angry), coming out of a frozen status lock of a few thousand years, so he was really aggressive against Prime & the Autobots. Prime already has a tough fight against Bonecrusher before getting to Mission City, and took damage being crashed around by a flying Megatron before they got into hand to hand. So, I'm not reading that much into the first fight; could have gone either way.
The second fight reminded me of the 1986 movie, where Prime just rolled over a dozen Decepticons, then took it to Megatron in their fight. But again, all those Deceps have been battling for an entire day, while Prime rolled off the shuttle fresh and ready to open some whup-ass. In ROTF, Prime was angry for once and jumped to defend Sam with everything he had ("I'll take you all on!"😉, so it looked like a high showing for him.

Originally posted by Cloudzor
nice to see your such a huge michael bay fanboy that your willing to stick to a dumb @ss lie which you know isn't true to cover up the huge holes in the plot. nothing you say will convince me that prime was "holding back"

It's cause you're doodoohead. 😐 We all know how much trouble doodooheads have with reasoning.

Originally posted by Cloudzor
in the city fight, he was being flung thru buildings which was just as damaging as him smashing megatron thru buildings... if he was anywhere close to the power level he is at in the second movie he would make quick work of megatron and kill him with less casualties. also in the end Sam had to save optimus by killing megatron with the cube, he couldn't defeat megatron this was the plan if he failed at defeating him..his own words.

Nah. He held back, big time, and got his ass handed to him.

Originally posted by Cloudzor
why are you getting so defensive and uptight anyway?

I guess the smiley wasn't enough for you?

Originally posted by Cloudzor
you miss my point

you clearly are one of them right? lol

lol dur

Oh man, OBVIOUSLY!

I gave you my interpretation, and you claim to know what was intended to counter my opinion. I then called your bullshit. So you respond with what amounts to as trolling. Great job.

Originally posted by Cloudzor
perhaps your too immature to handle someone dissagreeing with you, so you have to throw your toys out of your little cot whenever you hear an opinion contrary to yours?

I believe that would be you. 🙂 Mindless hating sucks, doesn't it?

Originally posted by Cloudzor
out of touch with reality? lol you just said my opinion is factually incorrect? rotfl.... by your logic one's opinion can be wrong when it isn't yours? nice 🙂

Yes sir, an opinion can be factually incorrect. Think about it for a while and it may dawn on you how it is possible.

Prime had more to gain by defeating Megatron, and saving the earth from enslavement by the decepticons. Holding back would be illogical in that respect.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Prime had more to gain by defeating Megatron, and saving the earth from enslavement by the decepticons. Holding back would be illogical in that respect.

Sacrificing his fundamental morals which very very explicitly separated the fundamental moral differences of the two opposing ideologies would have been the very essence of hypocrisy.

In other words, he would rather die than do the very same things he is taking a stand against.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Sacrificing his fundamental morals which very very explicitly separated the fundamental moral differences of the two opposing ideologies would have been the very essence of hypocrisy.

In other words, he would rather die than do the very same things he is taking a stand against.

Well, that's always been a drawback Prime has possesed. He's so committed to peace & freedom for all species, he's often not willing to make a ruthless choice. It's makes him an inspirational being, but it's what led him into conflict with Grimlock in the old days, who would slag Optimus as a "peace-loving coward", who would "worry about weakling humans" and "avoid fighting the Decepticons openly, to prevent damaging this miserable planet!" (Marvel comics series)
Even Megatron makes an appeal to him in their first major fight, about how they need Sam's mind to find the energon source to save their race. "Isn't that worth ONE human life to you?!" he yells at him. To which Optimus counters "You'd never stop at JUST one."

Originally posted by roughrider
Well, that's always been a drawback Prime has possesed. He's so committed to peace & freedom for all species, he's often not willing to make a ruthless choice. It's makes him an inspirational being, but it's what led him into conflict with Grimlock in the old days, who would slag Optimus as a "peace-loving coward", who would "worry about weakling humans" and "avoid fighting the Decepticons openly, to prevent damaging this miserable planet!" (Marvel comics series)
Even Megatron makes an appeal to him in their first major fight, about how they need Sam's mind to find the energon source to save their race. "Isn't that worth ONE human life to you?!" he yells at him. To which Optimus counters "You'd never stop at JUST one."

Exactly. Some people, except Sadako, don't realize the fan service that these movies offered. There's nice little tid bits like that, through out.

I usually don't give my 2 cents for films, nor read into what others say since I don't really find any importance to do so, but this is one of the few times I will. I really liked this film, I'd give it a 10/10 because it did a lot of things right. Don't get me wrong, a lot of stuff pissed me the hell off, but some of the stuff I didn't find funny was made to entertain people with wide tastes who didn't watch this film because it was TF's.

First off, I let go of all my G1-fanboyism and checked it out at the door. No reason to be G-Whiner becuase this film, along with any other incarnations, except Beast Wars of course, never set themselves up to be a direct continuation of G1. I mention Beast Wars because the Beast Bots actually visit the Ark and it all took place during the original bot's slumber. This film was just inspired by G1, as good or bad as it was.

What really pissed me off was the human interactions, Sam's mom, Leo, and the lack of some of my other favorite transformers was pretty much most of the reason that made me go: "But, they could've added Ultra Magnus instead of the whole college thing..." I'm not a big Devestator fan, so seeing his cheesy ass death was alright with me, I could care less for who the hell The Fallen was, seemed like the movie was more about Prime and Sam, rather than The Fallen.

I liked the fight scenes and the dialogue. Why I gave this movie a 10, because honestly, for a freakin' movie about toys, it captured the way some people played with their toys. I remember when I was around 8-9 years old, my friends would make explosion noises with our mouths and often spit a lot from all the blowing up that we would do in our imaginations. Bam, Bay gave us a shitload of explosion, no surprise there.

Second, the violent dialogue. With Ironhide calling Demolisher a punk ass Decepticon. As well as depicting kill shots and over the top violence. I have some friends who grew up in the 80's playing with TF's and they tell me they never played in a vulgar manner that my friends and I played during the mid 90's, of course they don't speak for everyone who grew up in the 80's, but this is what made me love this movie so much. My Prime figure toppled any other toy me and my friends had, Galactus, Darth Vader, Iron Man, it was good fun. My rating is a bit bias, I know that, but I highly enjoyed it. For a movie about toys that isn't a direct continuation of G1, I loved it much more than the first. Let's face it, hardly anything can be what G1 is/was.

Originally posted by Scythe
I usually don't give my 2 cents for films, nor read into what others say since I don't really find any importance to do so, but this is one of the few times I will. I really liked this film, I'd give it a 10/10 because it did a lot of things right. Don't get me wrong, a lot of stuff pissed me the hell off, but some of the stuff I didn't find funny was made to entertain people with wide tastes who didn't watch this film because it was TF's.

First off, I let go of all my G1-fanboyism and checked it out at the door. No reason to be G-Whiner becuase this film, along with any other incarnations, except Beast Wars of course, never set themselves up to be a direct continuation of G1. I mention Beast Wars because the Beast Bots actually visit the Ark and it all took place during the original bot's slumber. This film was just inspired by G1, as good or bad as it was.

What really pissed me off was the human interactions, Sam's mom, Leo, and the lack of some of my other favorite transformers was pretty much most of the reason that made me go: "But, they could've added Ultra Magnus instead of the whole college thing..." I'm not a big Devestator fan, so seeing his cheesy ass death was alright with me, I could care less for who the hell The Fallen was, seemed like the movie was more about Prime and Sam, rather than The Fallen.

I liked the fight scenes and the dialogue. Why I gave this movie a 10, because honestly, for a freakin' movie about toys, it captured the way some people played with their toys. I remember when I was around 8-9 years old, my friends would make explosion noises with our mouths and often spit a lot from all the blowing up that we would do in our imaginations. Bam, Bay gave us a shitload of explosion, no surprise there.

Second, the violent dialogue. With Ironhide calling Demolisher a punk ass Decepticon. As well as depicting kill shots and over the top violence. I have some friends who grew up in the 80's playing with TF's and they tell me they never played in a vulgar manner that my friends and I played during the mid 90's, of course they don't speak for everyone who grew up in the 80's, but this is what made me love this movie so much. My Prime figure toppled any other toy me and my friends had, Galactus, Darth Vader, Iron Man, it was good fun. My rating is a bit bias, I know that, but I highly enjoyed it. For a movie about toys that isn't a direct continuation of G1, I loved it much more than the first. Let's face it, hardly anything can be what G1 is/was.

This is why in that pole i put it as a 1 instead of a 3
you gave it a 10 when if there is some stuff that bothered you, you should drop it to a 8 or 7.

Originally posted by darthmaul1
This is why in that pole i put it as a 1 instead of a 3
you gave it a 10 when if there is some stuff that bothered you, you should drop it to a 8 or 7.

There's no such thing as perfection. One should rate a movie accordingly.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Prime had more to gain by defeating Megatron, and saving the earth from enslavement by the decepticons. Holding back would be illogical in that respect.

Originally posted by darthmaul1
This is why in that pole i put it as a 1 instead of a 3
you gave it a 10 when if there is some stuff that bothered you, you should drop it to a 8 or 7.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
I know it's just a forum poll, and it's not averaged, but you're voting lower than you would normally because people are voting higher than you want? That sounds pretty childish.

I'd use the word ridiculous ✅

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
I completely agree. But the hero of the story usually isn't that detached and calculating.

I know it's just a forum poll, and it's not averaged, but you're voting lower than you would normally because people are voting higher than you want? That sounds pretty childish.

Prime using detatched cooleness is an Optimus Prime classic trademark... ..One that Rodimus lacked.

Pointless, maybe, bereft of the averaging system, but a valid adult protest, onc ethe adult had explained why.

Childish would have been doing it for that reason and hiding it, running away proud of the responsibility free mischief.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Prime using detatched cooleness is an Optimus Prime classic trademark... ..One that Rodimus lacked.

Pointless, maybe, bereft of the averaging system, but a valid adult protest, onc ethe adult had explained why.

Childish would have been doing it for that reason and hiding it, running away proud of the responsibility free mischief.

I think maybe the cartoon version, I could see what you mean, due to the pacing of the show there werent many times for inflection..

Crisis of command.
And many other comics in that particular run.
Great examples of the more troubled, detatched, introspective, cautious side of Prime.

Originally posted by darthmaul1
This is why in that pole i put it as a 1 instead of a 3
you gave it a 10 when if there is some stuff that bothered you, you should drop it to a 8 or 7.

I know, but all that parts that flopped seem to be easily overlooked. Didn't have that much of a problem with the parts didn't like.

I saw it for the second time tonight. Have to say, even more enjoyable the second time around - the criticisms seem much further away from my mind, as a sit in the theatre grinning with mad delight at the amazing action.