Transformers 2 reviews, what did everyone think?

Alright. I'm honestly baffled by how many people here are giving this movie good reviews.

This movie was NOT good people. It's people like you that are giving Michael Bay more money to create a mindless, overlong, messy third Transformers film, which I guess is what you want anyway, considering the amount of people here who enjoyed the second.

Granted, I too paid to see this film in the theater, but I didn't think or know that it'd be as bad as it was. Bay's first Transformers film was by no means a good movie, but it was at least entertaining. And the plot ****ing made sense.

Revenge of the Fallen has too many flaws for me to list here. Cloudzor up there touched on quite a few.

I'll share a couple though:

1) The humor. What the hell were they thinking? Absolutely none of the humor in the entire film (which comprised about an hour of the movie by the way) was funny. It was pointless, juvenile and at times, incomprehensible (John Turturro ripping off his pants to reveal a white man thong. This literally served no purpose and was one of the many things that made me regret spending money on the film). The mom eating the apparently meth-laced pot brownie, "directly under enemy testicles," Shia Labeouf's roommate, the tiny Megan Fox-humping robot, the two racist twin robots, etc. And believe me, those twin robots were racist. They spoke in ebonics, one had a gold tooth; they were cookie-cutter dumb black guy stereotypes.... in robot form. Was I personally offended by them? No. I just found their stupidity (and all their actions) very annoying and pointless.

2) The plot. "Oh no! I'm seeing symbols in my head, I have to find someone to interpret them, but oh know these robots can't read I need to find an old Decepticon to interpret them, but oh no, a hot Transformer chick is after me, don't worry she's dead now, damn I can't say I love you to Megan Fox, wait, Optimus is dead I need to get this key thing to revive him, but oh shit it's dust, oh wait the Fallen's here, he's gonna destroy the sun apparently with a pyramid, but oh shit there's a Devastator, but it's no big deal a rail gun out of nowhere destroyed him for me, oh shit I'm dead and in robot heaven, oh wait, I'm back, there's Optimus, everyone's dead." Cue Linkin Park song and shitty ending monologue by Optimus, there goes two and a half hours of my life.

My point is, the plot was so ****ing messy, it made little sense and had little relevance.

I'm think I'll wrap up, typing up that plot summary got me all flustered and if I continue to think about the movie, I'll just weep tears of sorrow over how much money this movie's making.

Anyway, just to clarify, I'm not a Transformers fan, I don't know about the "mythology," and I don't care about the franchise, which is good, because if I did, I'd be utterly disappointed. I was, however, expecting entertainment and a coherent storyline, both of which this film failed to deliver.

I did enjoy the forest battle sequence, but I think that's about it.

I give this film a 3/10 for the special effects, one or two nice battles, and Fox's boobs. Popcorn flicks and summer blockbusters don't need to treat their audience like morons.

This film made me want to watch Star Trek for the 4th time. Or any of the other films I've seen in theaters this year

I'm 100 percent sure that I've left out many complaints, but like I mentioned, there are too many for me to recall.

I disagree

I cannot wait to see what Michael Bay comes up with next for Transformers 3, 4 ,5 and beyond..

I have thoroughly enjoyed both films as I am a die hard fan of Transformers from the '80s cartoon to the current wave of Transformers cartoons.. I am not worried about this flaw or that flaw.. both films were entertaining, thrilling with a good story and good action.. Keep making them Mr. Bay

Originally posted by SnakeEyes
Alright. I'm honestly baffled by how many people here are giving this movie good reviews.

This movie was NOT good people. It's people like you that are giving Michael Bay more money to create a mindless, overlong, messy third Transformers film, which I guess is what you want anyway, considering the amount of people here who enjoyed the second.

Granted, I too paid to see this film in the theater, but I didn't think or know that it'd be as bad as it was. Bay's first Transformers film was by no means a good movie, but it was at least entertaining. And the plot ****ing made sense.

Revenge of the Fallen has too many flaws for me to list here. Cloudzor up there touched on quite a few.

I'll share a couple though:

1) The humor. What the hell were they thinking? Absolutely none of the humor in the entire film (which comprised about an hour of the movie by the way) was funny. It was pointless, juvenile and at times, incomprehensible (John Turturro ripping off his pants to reveal a white man thong. This literally served no purpose and was one of the many things that made me regret spending money on the film). The mom eating the apparently meth-laced pot brownie, "directly under enemy testicles," Shia Labeouf's roommate, the tiny Megan Fox-humping robot, the two racist twin robots, etc. And believe me, those twin robots were racist. They spoke in ebonics, one had a gold tooth; they were cookie-cutter dumb black guy stereotypes.... in robot form. Was I personally offended by them? No. I just found their stupidity (and all their actions) very annoying and pointless.

2) The plot. "Oh no! I'm seeing symbols in my head, I have to find someone to interpret them, but oh know these robots can't read I need to find an old Decepticon to interpret them, but oh no, a hot Transformer chick is after me, don't worry she's dead now, damn I can't say I love you to Megan Fox, wait, Optimus is dead I need to get this key thing to revive him, but oh shit it's dust, oh wait the Fallen's here, he's gonna destroy the sun apparently with a pyramid, but oh shit there's a Devastator, but it's no big deal a rail gun out of nowhere destroyed him for me, oh shit I'm dead and in robot heaven, oh wait, I'm back, there's Optimus, everyone's dead." Cue Linkin Park song and shitty ending monologue by Optimus, there goes two and a half hours of my life.

My point is, the plot was so ****ing messy, it made little sense and had little relevance.

I'm think I'll wrap up, typing up that plot summary got me all flustered and if I continue to think about the movie, I'll just weep tears of sorrow over how much money this movie's making.

Anyway, just to clarify, I'm not a Transformers fan, I don't know about the "mythology," and I don't care about the franchise, which is good, because if I did, I'd be utterly disappointed. I was, however, expecting entertainment and a coherent storyline, both of which this film failed to deliver.

I did enjoy the forest battle sequence, but I think that's about it.

I give this film a 3/10 for the special effects, one or two nice battles, and Fox's boobs. Popcorn flicks and summer blockbusters don't need to treat their audience like morons.

This film made me want to watch Star Trek for the 4th time. Or any of the other films I've seen in theaters this year

I'm 100 percent sure that I've left out many complaints, but like I mentioned, there are too many for me to recall.

I think the effects deserved a littlemore, but I'd agree with most of that.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
I think the effects deserved a littlemore, but I'd agree with most of that.

Me too... now I'm done with post 😄

I went to see a kick ass action movie with big ass robots fighting each other. Thats what I paid to see and got it. I wasn't going to see a comedy or a drama/thriller that needs great humor or plot.

This movie is pretty good.

8/10

Originally posted by The Nuul
I went to see a kick ass action movie with big ass robots fighting each other. Thats what I paid to see and got it. I wasn't going to see a comedy or a drama/thriller that needs great humor or plot.

This movie is pretty good.

8/10

That's what i went to see too and for the most part that is what i got, i didn't mind some of the humor, but the plot sucked and the way the movie was put together was terrible that is why it sucked. The first one was great.
but some times kick ass action and big ass robots fighting isn't enough. and the 2nd movie is one of those cases

Originally posted by The Nuul
I went to see a kick ass action movie with big ass robots fighting each other. Thats what I paid to see and got it. I wasn't going to see a comedy or a drama/thriller that needs great humor or plot.

This movie is pretty good.

Originally posted by The Nuul
I went to see a kick ass action movie with big ass robots fighting each other. Thats what I paid to see and got it. I wasn't going to see a comedy or a drama/thriller that needs great humor or plot.

This movie is pretty good.

8/10

good post

This thread has some hefty fail points in it. I liked the movie, I saw it twice with my cousin. It reminded us of The Animated Movie, and I saw more than a few references while watching (thought it may have just been me. Wheelie? Matrix of Leadership? Hell Yes.)

A few people make a point of saying they don't know the mythology of Transformers, and that could very well be the main reason they can't understand some of the things that went on. I do know the mythology, and Bay did a good tribute to it, I think.

The twins are racist, the twins are ghetto, the twins yada yada yada. You know, if Bay hadn't gone and killed of Jazz in the first movie, all this bitching would've been about him. Just saying. 😬

Originally posted by Cloudzor
watched this on sunday... found it to be totally disapointing. well i knew it was gonna be a let dowb but not this much. the first transformers movie was quite good, right up to the optimus / megatron fight. megatron basically owned him and made optimus look like a total wimp. the fight was too one sided and made optimus look ridiculously weak compared to megatron. here are a few major flaws in this movie (in my opinion at least)

enter transformers 2, where:

1. the optimus / megatron match up swings in the completely opposite direction ..... now optimus totally owns megatron, quite easily while owning 2 other decepticons simultaneously...... erm ye, when did this shift of power happen exactly.

First film:

Optimus is in a densely populated city, trying to protect Sam and the city dwellers. At one point, He is actually holding Sam.

Second film, he has much more room, after he drops Sam, and he lets loose and a much less crowded area.

No shift of power occurred as Optimus had been fighting Decepticons for thousands of years, at this point.

Originally posted by Cloudzor
2. i thought bumblebee could talk at the end of the first movie....... obviously bay couldn't think of sticking to the storyline as bumblebee using the radio to communicate is alot cuter than him speaking... this was both inconsistent and lame.

You missed the part where he lost his voice, again, in the pre-movie comic. This would have been a good point, though.

Originally posted by Cloudzor
3. the character "the fallen" refers to megatron as his "apprentice" ... did bay decide that the star wars master/apprentice dialogue was so cool that he just had to slot it into his movie?

I assume it is to pay some sort of homage to The Fallen actually being the servant of Unicron. This probably functions as a segway into the third film.

That's also a very weird thing of you to complain about.

Originally posted by Cloudzor
4. the hot aussie babe doing a terminator 3 impersonation was quite shameless... once again did bay think terminator was such a cool concept he just had to immitate the franchise here?

I was thinking she was more like a Pretender...you know, a form that is quite established in several Transformer iterations.

Originally posted by Cloudzor
5. the cheesy lines "i'm too old for this" ... "let's rock" .... "i'll take you all on" ... "that dude is an A-HOLE!" "<enter cliche' american phrase here>" .... i understand one or two but bay used every single oppertunity to say something cheesy.

Cool.

And, yes, I agree that there were too many...but it was for the fans of the old cartoon.

Originally posted by Cloudzor
6. the whole "only a prime can defeat the fallen" ..... erm says? why is that? so now robots have family trees and surnames? erm. . ... ...... how is he their descendant?

Being a "Prime" is quite established in many Transformer iterations. Quite an odd thing to complain about that, especially when it is a title of leadership in most of the Transformer stories.

Originally posted by Cloudzor
7. the auto bots have such limited screen time it's sad.... bumblebee, iron-hide etc. are such cool characters yet far too little time is spent on them

The exact opposite is true.

You must have been asleep through almost all of the film. Unless you think that 100% screen time with transformer is just enough, this point is factually incorrect.

Originally posted by Cloudzor
8. the "ghetto" robots.... one with a gold tooth.... why did bay feel the need to humanise all the robots in this film? they're robots fgs, they don't need to adopt totally human traits. ye and those two robots were really lame...

1. Bay didn't make them, ask them to be made, etc. You'd be surprised at how little Bay actually is directly involved with on the film.

2. I found them funny at times, but generally lame.

Originally posted by Cloudzor
9. why did megan fox have to do the whole "i love you" thing before sam came back from the dead.... lame, no real place in the movie

Yes it did have a place. It was to show Micaela finally telling her love her feelings when she thought it was too late. It was to show how lame the whole argument was to begin with. It's kind of like apologizing to a deceased loved one.

Originally posted by Cloudzor
10. why must the american army play such a big part in this film? at one stage the film consisted of the army radioing each other for what seemed an eternity!

Because humans have played a significant role in just about every iteration of Transformers out there. It's part of the franchise.

Originally posted by Cloudzor
there are plenty more reasons why this movie was a major disapointment... the effects and transformations were excellent though. and i enjoyed a few of the fight scenes, especially the optimus fight (where he gets killed) ... this movie isn't a TOTAL waste of time, but still could have been MUCH better. too much hollywood here =/

But most of your points were not really "complaint" points, just points on items and plot points that you didn't know the reasons for.

I wish you would list some more actual points as there are plenty of legit things to complain about other than massive amounts of homage to Transformers.

Originally posted by SnakeEyes
I'll share a couple though:

1) The humor. What the hell were they thinking? Absolutely none of the humor in the entire film (which comprised about an hour of the movie by the way) was funny.

Millions of movie watchers can't be wrong.

Don't quit your day job to do comedy as "humor" sees to escape your understanding.

You really mean to say that the main-stream humor in the film wasn't your cup of tea. That's fine. My sense of humor is not very mainstream either.

Originally posted by SnakeEyes
2) The plot. "Oh no! I'm seeing symbols in my head, I have to find someone to interpret them, but oh know these robots can't read I need to find an old Decepticon to interpret them, but oh no, a hot Transformer chick is after me, don't worry she's dead now, damn I can't say I love you to Megan Fox, wait, Optimus is dead I need to get this key thing to revive him, but oh shit it's dust, oh wait the Fallen's here, he's gonna destroy the sun apparently with a pyramid, but oh shit there's a Devastator, but it's no big deal a rail gun out of nowhere destroyed him for me, oh shit I'm dead and in robot heaven, oh wait, I'm back, there's Optimus, everyone's dead." Cue Linkin Park song and shitty ending monologue by Optimus, there goes two and a half hours of my life.

In your opinion, what movie did have a good plot in it?

Originally posted by SnakeEyes
My point is, the plot was so ****ing messy, it made little sense and had little relevance.

I'm think I'll wrap up, typing up that plot summary got me all flustered and if I continue to think about the movie, I'll just weep tears of sorrow over how much money this movie's making.

I'll sum it up for you:

Sam wants to go to college to have a normal life while staying together with Micaela. This changes when the Decepticons revive Megatron and we REALLY see who is behind the Decipticons a la The Fallen. The Fallen wants to harvest Sol for energon. All of the Transformers are running out of energon, anyway.

Sam inadvertently acts as the vessel for the entirety of the Allspark...which is in the language of the Primes. The Decepticons find out about Sam having the memories and go after Sam. Optimus Prime dies trying to defend Sam from the Decepticons. They try to locate the nearest Prime or transformer that has the capability to read the Prime's language. They find Jetifre. He gets them to the location of The Matrix, which Sam will use to Revive Optimus to help them figure out what to do, as Optimus is a Prime. Also, everyone wants their dead comrade back.

The movie ends with Sam finding The Matrix and Optimus Prime destroying the Fallen and his plans to destroy the Sun for energon.

Originally posted by SnakeEyes
Anyway, just to clarify, I'm not a Transformers fan, I don't know about the "mythology," and I don't care about the franchise, which is good, because if I did, I'd be utterly disappointed. I was, however, expecting entertainment and a coherent storyline, both of which this film failed to deliver.

The film had a very coherent story. Why did I understand it, my wife understand it, and my 5 year-old son understand it just fine?

Yes, my son saw the movie today and he talked about it a bunch to me. I, of course, had to explain what energon was to him, but he understood that that The Fallen was a bad guy who wanted to destroy Earth and all of the other main plot points. He was rather excited about the film.

I'm betting that Mission Impossible must have been horrible for you, because the plot is much more complicated than the Transformers 2 plot.

Originally posted by SnakeEyes
I did enjoy the forest battle sequence, but I think that's about it.

I give this film a 3/10 for the special effects, one or two nice battles, and Fox's boobs. Popcorn flicks and summer blockbusters don't need to treat their audience like morons.

[QUOTE=12030260]Originally posted by SnakeEyes
[B]This film made me want to watch Star Trek for the 4th time. Or any of the other films I've seen in theaters this year

Hmm.

You complain about Transformers being stupid and having a faulty story, but you liked Star Trek? Me thinks you're hating just to hate as Star Trek had so many horrible Plot Holes that it was ridiculous. Humor was similar to Transformer's humor, as well.

It actually blows me away that you liked Star Trek and not Transformers 2.

At least I'm honest and say that I liked Star Trek, despite how retarded the entire plot was.

Optimus is in a densely populated city, trying to protect Sam and the city dwellers. At one point, He is actually holding Sam.

Second film, he has much more room, after he drops Sam, and he lets loose and a much less crowded area.

No shift of power occurred as Optimus had been fighting Decepticons for thousands of years, at this point.

lol no, the densely populated city had nothing to do with megatron kicking his @ss with little or no ressistance... he was being thrown thru buildings and tossed around like a rag doll the entire fight. i don't buy that sorry...

The exact opposite is true.

You must have been asleep through almost all of the film. Unless you think that 100% screen time with transformer is just enough, this point is factually incorrect.

the trash talking lame @ss "homey" robots get more screen time than the cool autobots... when the movie opened and i saw the variety of autobots i felt excited cause they looked real cool... but as another reviewer said, they don't do much else in the movie exept die later on. why bother?

Yes it did have a place. It was to show Micaela finally telling her love her feelings when she thought it was too late. It was to show how lame the whole argument was to begin with. It's kind of like apologizing to a deceased loved one.

this is transformers, not "the holiday" or titanic ... this movie was never meant to be deep in respect to love and s

Because humans have played a significant role in just about every iteration of Transformers out there. It's part of the franchise.

i understand that, but this movie is about the transformers ... way too much time is spent on the army here, it would seem bay was more obsessed with another collaboration with the US army than producing a film about the autobots and decepticons =/

But most of your points were not really "complaint" points, just points on items and plot points that you didn't know the reasons for.

I wish you would list some more actual points as there are plenty of legit things to complain about other than massive amounts of homage to Transformers.

okay i'll be more clear then ... this movie had huge potential, i feel transformers is one of the coolest concepts ever. in my OPINION the end product of this sequel was totally lame. that being said, i will say again that there were parts in the movie i enjoyed and the effects were great especially the transformations.

IMO they failed to deliver to fans of the franchise as well as transformer newbies. and michael bay really needs to stop with his "if the movie is over 2 hours long, it's epic" philosophy.

Originally posted by Cloudzor
lol no, the densely populated city had nothing to do with megatron kicking his @ss with little or no ressistance... he was being thrown thru buildings and tossed around like a rag doll the entire fight. i don't buy that sorry...

Then it's your being dense is the fault of the misunderstanding.

BTW, my wife watched Transformers, today. I see a "careful" Optimus taking it in the ass for the humans in a "crunched-up" area. Odd how you can't see what was right in front of your face.

"NUH UUUHH!! HE TOOOOTALLY DIDN'T FIGHT AT ALL IN TEH FIRST ONE!"

😆

Originally posted by Cloudzor
the trash talking lame @ss "homey" robots get more screen time than the cool autobots... when the movie opened and i saw the variety of autobots i felt excited cause they looked real cool... but as another reviewer said, they don't do much else in the movie exept die later on. why bother?

How many autobots died. 😐

Originally posted by Cloudzor
this is transformers, not "the holiday" or titanic ... this movie was never meant to be deep in respect to love and s

Thank you for conceding the point in the most assbackwards way possible. 🙂

Also, you can't claim what it was meant to be or not meant to be. Very few people can make that claim, and you're not one of them.

Originally posted by Cloudzor
i understand that, but this movie is about the transformers ... way too much time is spent on the army here, it would seem bay was more obsessed with another collaboration with the US army than producing a film about the autobots and decepticons =/

No, you're just hating for the sake of doing so. That entire point is bullshit, and you know it. 😉 I called your bullshit, now just admit you were hating and bullshitting and move on.

Originally posted by Cloudzor
IMO they failed to deliver to fans of the franchise as well as transformer newbies. and michael bay really needs to stop with his "if the movie is over 2 hours long, it's epic" philosophy.

Your opinion is factually incorrect, then. It must suck to be clueless and out of touch with reality.

Imagine you're in a cage fight and there are mice running around the floor. Your goal is to fight while not killing any mice and your opponent's goal is just to fight you.

That's the position Optimus would be in in the first movie. A similar thing happens when I play team deathmatch on Jedi Academy. I don't want to hurt my allies so I have to really choose when to swing. If friendly fire is off though, or it's just 1 vs 1, I don't have to worry about it and I'm free to swing at whatever I want.

Arent you just hating on the guys point for sake's sake though, DDM?

Millions of viewers CAN be wrong.
How many saw Phantom Menace and raved about it, even if initially (and the Matrix sequels were great, in your eyes..?)
Most people just will pay for to see the next big shiny dumb thing.
Loooook....Biiiiiiiiiig. Shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnny.

I and many others I know who have seen the flick feel the same way..

There is the likelihood that your own lack of allowance for subjectivity on the matter is causing this Nazi-istic reaction to opinions that are actually valid, yet differing to your own.

Rime died and cameback and Jetfire died. The Arcee twins were shown getting their asses killed (permanentlyor otherwise, I cannot remember). Therefore its not the strange thing to remark on that you would think.

And if my interest in the movie was an Autobot too, IT would have been killed numerous times over on the rewatchings.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
Imagine you're in a cage fight and there are mice running around the floor. Your goal is to fight while not killing any mice and your opponent's goal is just to fight you.

That's the position Optimus would be in in the first movie. A similar thing happens when I play team deathmatch on Jedi Academy. I don't want to hurt my allies so I have to really choose when to swing. If friendly fire is off though, or it's just 1 vs 1, I don't have to worry about it and I'm free to swing at whatever I want.

Megatron was throwing Prime on to them at one point. Prime couldnt do anything about it... There we no points in there where Prime was NOT shown to not take a shot at and enemy because of the humans.

Megatron was bigger, more powerful, more dense and had better weapons. End of, really. 🙂

Originally posted by The Nuul
I went to see a kick ass action movie with big ass robots fighting each other. Thats what I paid to see and got it. I wasn't going to see a comedy or a drama/thriller that needs great humor or plot.

This movie is pretty good.

8/10

This guy has the right idea, I paid to see the film for similiar reasons, high action, large robots smashing eachother, I only had scant knowledge of the transformers from my early youth from the cartoon and toys but thats about it ,I dont know their actual stories...fact is, the film gave the major reasons, people whining "this films useless! I wasnt crying with laughter at the jokes!" or "nooo! boo hoo the robot twins were racist!" among other complaints obvioulsy did not understand who the film was aimed at, its mindless light hearted amusement with high action adrenaline fighting. The plot was easy to follow, the battles were far better than those in most films and overall it was worth the time and money I spent to see it. I admit it was a bit of a long film, but there are a lot of good long films (lord of the rings, Watchmen and to some Titanic) fact is this film delivers on what it promised.

...to you.

Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
Imagine you're in a cage fight and there are mice running around the floor. Your goal is to fight while not killing any mice and your opponent's goal is just to fight you.

That's the position Optimus would be in in the first movie. A similar thing happens when I play team deathmatch on Jedi Academy. I don't want to hurt my allies so I have to really choose when to swing. If friendly fire is off though, or it's just 1 vs 1, I don't have to worry about it and I'm free to swing at whatever I want.

Exactamundo.

Hell, I think at one point, he does fall on some humans and crushes them....

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
...to you.

Originally posted by Burning thought
boo hoo