Despero vs Thanos

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I believe Warlock did that to himself when he was GOd. I could be wrong. And Thanos is under the wrealm of Death. It's her power that clouds his future. She is above Lords chaos and order. And The SPECTRE said that Superman and WW are two of the mightiest beings in existance. He should know.

The Specter jumped to attack god, anyone stupid enough to attack god can speak nonsense as well.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
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What. The. ****?

He blasted Surfer, Surfer got KTFO.

He blasted Drax, Drax got KTFO.

He blasted Thanos, Thanos took it.

He didn't change his energy in the between. You are being really desperate here, right?

NOt really. Seeing as how that comic was all about Thanos. Didn't Surfer take a blast from tenebrious or Aegis? I'd think they were more powerful than odin.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Thanos is NOT under the realm of Death. Don't know where you get this crap out from.

And if you really believe that Superman and WW are two of the mightiest beings in existence, you are more deluded then I think. Spectre (or the writer of the comic, to be more exact) was OBVIOUSLY wrong.

You said yourself that there is a planet full of 3 billion Supermen, the writer who did such a statement was deluded. And I just said that the Spectre doesnt strike me as the wisdom of god either.

Originally posted by Bentley
You said yourself that there is a planet full of 3 billion Supermen, the writer who did such a statement was deluded. And I just said that the Spectre doesnt strike me as the wisdom of god either.

This is true. To that I cannot Argue. But, The Spectre said it. Some writers have DS oe being deflected by heat vision. But I guess it's ok to use that example but not use what the spectre said.

Personally I dont like the heat vision nonesense either. Some writers take way too many freedoms.

I guess that the difference is that while the heat vision thing is something that physically happened, the Spectre just made a statement and we are yet to see the results of its truth -if it was really meant to have value stated as it was. There is a leap between what characters say and what they do, even when its about higher beings like the Spectre.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And yet Superman has feats few in comics can match. And WW is shown to be his near match. ANy way, The spectre said it. It's cannon.

It's canon that Superman is mightier then guys like Phantom Stranger and other abstracts?

Okay, believe what you wish.

NOt really. Seeing as how that comic was all about Thanos. Didn't Surfer take a blast from tenebrious or Aegis? I'd think they were more powerful than odin.

Actually, your sentence still doesn't make any sense. Odin used same energy, Thanos could take it, Surfer and Drax could not. SIMPLE AS THAT.

And you don't know that Surfer, when he fought Aegis was upgraded?

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
It's canon that Superman is mightier then guys like Phantom Stranger and other abstracts?

Okay, believe what you wish.

Actually, your sentence still doesn't make any sense. Odin used same energy, Thanos could take it, Surfer and Drax could not. SIMPLE AS THAT.

And you don't know that Surfer, when he fought Aegis was upgraded?

How much so? It still doesn't make sense That Thanos be any more durable than Surfer when they both are less powerful than the Runner. I dont' know why you bring the phantom stranger into this argument. The Spectre siad that they were two of the mightiest beings in the universe. He didn't say the Two mightiest. SO exactly what is yourpoint?

The Surfer/Aegis fight went something like: Aegis blasts Surfer out of the sky and he hits the deck, she attempts to pick him up and he fires a blast at her seemingly to no effect, she then crushes him under her hand.

Thats about it. Quite what it has to do with Thanos and Odin I don't know!

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
How much so? It still doesn't make sense That Thanos be any more durable than Surfer when they both are less powerful than the Runner.

Annnnnd, another sentence that doesn't make any sense at all. Runner isn't more durable then Thanos, he is just fast enough to beat Thanos. But he is more durable, faster, stronger, and better then Silver Surfer. Both Thanos and Runner are FAR more powerful then Silver Surfer.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
I dont' know why you bring the phantom stranger into this argument. The Spectre siad that they were two of the mightiest beings in the universe. He didn't say the Two mightiest. SO exactly what is yourpoint?

Two of the mightiest beings, huh?

So, were they two of the million mightiest beings, or billion?

That proves nothing, and nothing that would put them above Thanos. Don't know why you even posted that.

Originally posted by Wally West
The Surfer/Aegis fight went something like: Aegis blasts Surfer out of the sky and he hits the deck, she attempts to pick him up and he fires a blast at her seemingly to no effect, she then crushes him under her hand.

Thats about it. Quite what it has to do with Thanos and Odin I don't know!

The fact that Surfer wasn't knocked out by Aegis, who is obviously more powerful than Odin.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Annnnnd, another sentence that doesn't make any sense at all. Runner isn't more durable then Thanos, he is just fast enough to beat Thanos. But he is more durable, faster, stronger, and better then Silver Surfer. Both Thanos and Runner are FAR more powerful then Silver Surfer.

Two of the mightiest beings, huh?

So, were they two of the million mightiest beings, or billion?

That proves nothing, and nothing that would put them above Thanos. Don't know why you even posted that.

You missed the entire point. Many beings have sufficiant power to knock Big G down under a surprise attack. I'm not impressed to say the least. Especially since Big G wasn't actually hurt.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You missed the entire point. Many beings have sufficiant power to knock Big G down under a surprise attack. I'm not impressed to say the least. Especially since Big G wasn't actually hurt.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
The fact that Surfer wasn't knocked out by Aegis, who is obviously more powerful than Odin.

Surfer was upgraded, and Aegis obviously was using VERY low-intensity blast.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
You missed the entire point. Many beings have sufficiant power to knock Big G down under a surprise attack. I'm not impressed to say the least. Especially since Big G wasn't actually hurt.

Many beings do, but Superman hasn't showed anything like that to my information. Show actual feat proving that instead of some stupid hyperbole.

Till then, you have nothing.

And Thanos shattered Galactus's armor with that blast, something that has been done...well, very, very few times. And it still hurt Galactus. Not MUCH, but still enough to make him angry.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Surfer was upgraded, and Aegis obviously was using VERY low-intensity blast.

Many beings do, but Superman hasn't showed anything like that to my information. Show actual feat proving that instead of some stupid hyperbole.

Till then, you have nothing.

And Thanos shattered Galactus's armor with that blast, something that has been done...well, very, very few times. And it still hurt Galactus. Not MUCH, but still enough to make him angry.

So Aegis was obviously using a very low intensity blast but ODin wasn't against THanos? Meh. I already posted a feat and it was basically dismissed. I posted where Superman and Diana Staggered a quantum zealot with whom they were fighting and he was already in thralls of destorying the Galalxy Ship of the quantums. So it is with in thier power to knock big G back by suprise. Thanos has a marvel Jobber aura. Just admit to it. His feats make no sense and are mostly littered with Tech, Prep, and Mightier characters jobbing.

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
So Aegis was obviously using a very low intensity blast but ODin wasn't against THanos? Meh. I already posted a feat and it was basically dismissed. I posted where Superman and Diana Staggered a quantum zealot with whom they were fighting and he was already in thralls of destorying the Galalxy Ship of the quantums. So it is with in thier power to knock big G back by suprise. Thanos has a marvel Jobber aura. Just admit to it. His feats make no sense and are mostly littered with Tech, Prep, and Mightier characters jobbing.

Alrighty then.

Now you are just getting bitter of me constantly owning you, and starting to dismiss all Thanos feats by saying that he does them through jobbing, without bothering to prove any of your views. It is astonishing how horribly someone can humiliate himself when losing.

Just something you didn't notice when writing that post...you are wrong in...all your points.

First of all, Surfer was upgraded when against Aegis, so much that he easily beat Ravenous, an enemy who he could not beat before. So that already makes your point moot. Second of all, look at the pretty pictures, they are there for a reason. When Aegis fights Surfer, she is barely exerting herself, obviously just playing with him. Thus, her blasts were clearly very low intensity.

When Odin fights Thanos, he was using Gugnir, his face was red, he looked angry and made HUGE blasts. Obviously, he was using higher intensity blasts. Stop being a retard and accept the facts.

Second of all, post issue number or a picture where WW and Supes do that thing to quantum giant or whatever. Then, prove that the said quantum giant was Galactus level on power. Thank you.

Oh and third of all, you still haven't proven that Despero can do anything to Thanos. I have posted various ways how Thanos can utterly own Despero.

We judge character's abilities by majority of their showings, and in majority of his showings, Thanos's durability is in the level that he can take blasts from Odin, Tyrant, Galactus, Kosmos and other beings who have far more power then Despero has. Thanos is far more durable then Despero is.

In majority of Thanos's showings, Thanos also shows strength level higher then Despero's strength level on his showings.

In majority of Thanos's showings, Thanos's offensive energy powers also are enough to finish Despero with few blasts.

Simple fact is, Thanos wins, 9/10, with ease. There is nothing you can do to change this, so I would save myself from further humiliation if I were you...but of course you wouldn't?

Keep going.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Alrighty then.

Now you are just getting bitter of me constantly owning you, and starting to dismiss all Thanos feats by saying that he does them through jobbing, without bothering to prove any of your views. It is astonishing how horribly someone can humiliate himself when losing.

Just something you didn't notice when writing that post...you are wrong in...all your points.

First of all, Surfer was upgraded when against Aegis, so much that he easily beat Ravenous, an enemy who he could not beat before. So that already makes your point moot. Second of all, look at the pretty pictures, they are there for a reason. When Aegis fights Surfer, she is barely exerting herself, obviously just playing with him. Thus, her blasts were clearly very low intensity.

When Odin fights Thanos, he was using Gugnir, his face was red, he looked angry and made HUGE blasts. Obviously, he was using higher intensity blasts. Stop being a retard and accept the facts.

Second of all, post issue number or a picture where WW and Supes do that thing to quantum giant or whatever. Then, prove that the said quantum giant was Galactus level on power. Thank you.

Oh and third of all, you still haven't proven that Despero can do anything to Thanos. I have posted various ways how Thanos can utterly own Despero.

We judge character's abilities by majority of their showings, and in majority of his showings, Thanos's durability is in the level that he can take blasts from Odin, Tyrant, Galactus, Kosmos and other beings who have far more power then Despero has. Thanos is far more durable then Despero is.

In majority of Thanos's showings, Thanos also shows strength level higher then Despero's strength level on his showings.

In majority of Thanos's showings, Thanos's offensive energy powers also are enough to finish Despero with few blasts.

Simple fact is, Thanos wins, 9/10, with ease. There is nothing you can do to change this, so I would save myself from further humiliation if I were you...but of course you wouldn't?

Keep going.

I dont' think Thanos could beat the likes of the JLA and JSA combined. Despero Did. SO that clearly Puts despero in thanos range. Despero has the flame of pytar. Thanos isn't going to somehow override a cosmystical enchangement of nearly limitless might. He's not going to just turn despero into something. Especially since Despero can just inhabit another body. SUperman and WW knocked over a quantum zealot who by thier sheer might was able to collect thousands if not billions of worlds from around the Universe and play with them as if they were nothing. I Think an angry quantum zealot is easily a match for galactus. The issue is called heaven's ladder. And SUperman and WW most certainly DID stagger the mighty Being.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Thor was considerably stronger with Power Gem then he was before. Did not show any limit there, really. He was basically one-shotting heralds right and left.

Thor was one shotting heralds (The Silver Surfer) BEFORE he got the power gem.

We have no idea what the Power Gem was doing to him. Giving him some sort of dynamic strength, but since he couldn't consciously tap it (just like Drax before him) I don't suspect it was really boosting him THAT much.

He was also clearly on the losing end of that battle.

I'm not saying its the same as being beaten by Superman, or anything of that nature, but its not supremely good showing for him either, especially since he had to use technology to get him out of it.

Still...Thanos would not have even budged from a hit like that.

Perhaps, perhaps. You'd be surprised. Spiderman has made him budge.

Cool, that just proves that he doesn't have any bionics now. He does it all through his own strength.

Then what did he do? Sure looked like containing the power and then releasing it for me.

Are we talking about The End? Anyone could have gotten that power, is what I'm trying to say. As in...Norrin Radd didn't have amazing energy absorbing powers to become the Silver Surfer. Johnny Storm didn't have energy absorbing powers to become the human torch. One doesn't need energy absorbing powers to recieve artifacts of great power.

No...I don't think so. Maybe if Superman and Captain Marvel had actually fought for real, but they just punched him one time and then started hanging from his neck. Hardly going all-out on Despero. They did not use speed or anything. Thanos would have been easily capable of doing the same.[quote]

Thats a bit biased, IMHO. Just because the artist didn't portray them each as having super advanced fighting skills doesn't mean they weren't fighting with everything they had save super speed. Because, really, no hero save the Flash uses Super Speed in every battle. But to say they weren't giving it all their strength and doing the best they could is ridiculous.

Thanos, from what I've seen, has never physically faced and outmuscled that many top tiers so thoroughly.

[quote]Wrestling the Gugnir and moving it while Odin is holding it, with ONE hand is defenitely more impressive.
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/7219/fight1213gr7.jpg

That was a durability feat. Thanos was durable enough to go through the energy and then grabs the spear and they both go flying. I don't see any strength feat there.

So is this.
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/6338/strength9fg3.jpg

Not when he's got the orb and energy attacks are involved. Not when we don't know how STRONG Tyrant was.

Clearly seems matter manipulation here, creating the house as it was from nothing.
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/3589/energy27an2.jpg

I don't agree. His teleportation is clearly working, so it seems to me that its technology. The fact that he's never shown the ability Post-Ressurection and only one time pre lends credence to my point of view, as does the "he must have planned this all along" line.

If it was just matter manipulation from his normal power, he wouldn't have had to plan anything.

Celestial Quest was confusing, so I'm not sure if this Thanos or not, but...
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/5064/energy21vd1.jpg

Its not Thanos. It was retconned in Infinity Abyss.

All of this still doen't change the fact that Thanos will atomize Despero with his blasts, EASILY, Despero can't do ANYTHING to hurt Thanos, Thanos is, at the very least, equal to Despero's physical strength, and Despero's telepathy or telekinesis don't help him at all here.

If we go by averages, I agree. People haven't even brought up the L-Ron years.

But going off of Breakdowns and Virtue and Vice, I think this would actually be a great battle.

Originally posted by Desaad
Are we talking about The End? Anyone could have gotten that power, is what I'm trying to say.

Originally posted by Desaad
Thor was one shotting heralds (The Silver Surfer) BEFORE he got the power gem.

We have no idea what the Power Gem was doing to him. Giving him some sort of dynamic strength, but since he couldn't consciously tap it (just like Drax before him) I don't suspect it was really boosting him THAT much.

He was also clearly on the losing end of that battle.

I'm not saying its the same as being beaten by Superman, or anything of that nature, but its not supremely good showing for him either, especially since he had to use technology to get him out of it.

He did not HAD to do that, he grew bored and wanted to finish it fast. Nobody showed advantage over other in the battle. Thanos wasn't even hurt besides nosebleed.

Originally posted by Desaad
Perhaps, perhaps. You'd be surprised. Spiderman has made him budge.

Example that is clearly PIS. There is no way that Thanos written right could have been budged by Spider-Man.

Originally posted by Desaad
That was a durability feat. Thanos was durable enough to go through the energy and then grabs the spear and they both go flying. I don't see any strength feat there.

He was moving the spear upwards.

Originally posted by Desaad
Not when he's got the orb and energy attacks are involved. Not when we don't know how STRONG Tyrant was.

Pretty damn strong, considering he was near Galactus level and all. And the orb did not increase his strength or durability.

Originally posted by Desaad
I don't agree. His teleportation is clearly working, so it seems to me that its technology. The fact that he's never shown the ability Post-Ressurection and only one time pre lends credence to my point of view, as does the "he must have planned this all along" line.

If it was just matter manipulation from his normal power, he wouldn't have had to plan anything.

So he just had the exact duplicate of the house stored somewhere?

Originally posted by Desaad
If we go by averages, I agree. People haven't even brought up the L-Ron years.

But going off of Breakdowns and Virtue and Vice, I think this would actually be a great battle.

I really don't see how anything happened in Virtue and Vice that would imply him being able to do anything against Thanos. Superman and others were hardly trying against Despero (hanging from the neck). He was hurt by tear gas.

Any version of Despero will simply be reverted to ashes by Thanos's blasts.