Originally posted by -Pr-
The issue was enjoyable, imo.One thing i would say, though.
Maybe it's not that the Spectre is being depowered. Maybe it's that the various Corps are getting some sort of boost?
The glass is not half empty, its half full?
Maybe be cause they are all working with each other, I mean their rings complement each other?
Didnt think of that! interesting.
after what atrocitus said, i'm beginning to think more and more that Spectre is becoming an equal to Parallax in a way, as in, the Spectre is to Rage what Parallax is to Fear. I mean, the Spectre is so often called the Spirit of Vengeance. Atrocitus' entire formation of the RLC is based on his quest for vengeance against the guardians for creating the manhunters, right?
I mean, i know people are mad, but i personally think that if Parallax is the origin of fear, the very basis for the concept, then that alone makes him incredibly powerful.
I think god needs to be taken out of the equation, tbh. if the Spectre is the personification of Rage or the need for vengeance, then he would be a tool for God's use, and not a true representative of God himself like, say, the Angels would be.
Atrocitus might be the Guardian of the RLC, but he's no spirit of rage or vengeance (vengeance itself being born of anger at an injustice or wrongdoing in most cases, no?).
if THAT was the direction Johns was going in, then i'd be happy, tbh.
I can live with that.
Though, if john is going to change what Spectre is entirely, then just introduce a new character. There are too many issues where Spectre appeared and was called God's vengeance, right hand, and many other things that are associated with the Presence. You can't just remove that and act like Presence is just using him, when he can make an angel do the same.
If he is going to change it like you said. Better be a good excuse.
Originally posted by -Pr-
after what atrocitus said, i'm beginning to think more and more that Spectre is becoming an equal to Parallax in a way, as in, the Spectre is to Rage what Parallax is to Fear. I mean, the Spectre is so often called the Spirit of Vengeance. Atrocitus' entire formation of the RLC is based on his quest for vengeance against the guardians for creating the manhunters, right?I mean, i know people are mad, but i personally think that if Parallax is the origin of fear, the very basis for the concept, then that alone makes him incredibly powerful.
I think god needs to be taken out of the equation, tbh. if the Spectre is the personification of Rage or the need for vengeance, then he would be a tool for God's use, and not a true representative of God himself like, say, the Angels would be.
Atrocitus might be the Guardian of the RLC, but he's no spirit of rage or vengeance (vengeance itself being born of anger at an injustice or wrongdoing in most cases, no?).
if THAT was the direction Johns was going in, then i'd be happy, tbh.
Agreed. Like you said, if Parallax is the living embodiment of fear, created as soon as sentient life felt said fear, then by definition Parallax should be extremely powerful. Parallax alone should be able to rival Spectre (which he was shown as being able to not be easily dealt with by Spectre). I think some people get too hung up over power levels of characters, especially characters like Spectre who basically becomes as powerful (or as weak) as he needs to be in any given situation.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Parallax is powerful, but he shouldn't be strong as Spectre who is Multiversal in nature
Being able to rival someone's power doesn't translate into them being as powerful or more so than someone else. Do I think Full Power Parallax can beat Full Power/Fully Backed Spectre? No, but Parallax being able to challenge Spectre makes sense to me.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
I can live with that.Though, if john is going to change what Spectre is entirely, then just introduce a new character. There are too many issues where Spectre appeared and was called God's vengeance, right hand, and many other things that are associated with the Presence. You can't just remove that and act like Presence is just using him, when he can make an angel do the same.
If he is going to change it like you said. Better be a good excuse.
was it honestly stated that he was an actual part of the presence, though?
i mean, in a lot of lore concerning angels and the like, someone like michael the archangel would shit on someone like spectre.
even in day of vengeance (i think it was called) there were allusions to spectre being yes, powerful, but crap without a host. rage without direction is the exact same thing, imo. it's purpose-less.
Originally posted by -Pr-More or less. I remember quite a few instances in which it was stated that the Logoz is a part of Spectre (or at least that he has an extremely strong connection to it.) Here's one of those instances:
was it honestly stated that he was an actual part of the presence, though?
srug
Originally posted by Galan007
More or less. I remember quite a few instances in which it was stated that the Logoz is a part of Spectre (or at least that he has an extremely strong connection to it.) Here's one of those instances:
http://img295.imageshack.us/img295/7889/1lv2.jpgsrug
mmm
yet another johns retcon?
