GL Hal vs Zoom

can't believe this wasn't done. least not that i could find.

so, anyway, lots of zoom luv lately. can hal and his ring contend with this apparently trans-level speedster??

No.

Eh. I'd say Hal, while airborne, makes a dome construct around the battlefield below and slowly shrinks it, trapping Zoom within it and eventually crushing him.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

Phasing?

Can Zoom survive in space? 😈

Zoom can't phase through solids due to the nature of his powers. That's the weakness he has that the Flashes can exploit (if you'll remember). Due to not having true super speed he can't vibrate himself to become intangible.

Nah, he seems to have adapted a variation of that power somehow. He used it when he fought Bart. He can phase.

is the ring/should the ring be capable of tracking zoom?

Originally posted by leonidas
is the ring/should the ring be capable of tracking zoom?

I don't see why not.

Kyle programmed his ring to bring him back even if he was disintegrated.

Originally posted by The Scribe
I don't see why not.

Kyle programmed his ring to bring him back even if he was disintegrated.

that's kind of what i thought too . . .

on a different note--who (besides flash) has zoom fought 1on1 and defeated? we all know that when a team fights one person, the individuals on the team often don't perform to their fullest abilities. so when someone says zoom seemed to get the best of a GL while that GL fought as part of the league, that does NOT mean that's how the fight would go in a 1on1 situation . . .

so, who else has zoom defeated aside from flash?

Originally posted by leonidas
on a different note--who (besides flash) has zoom fought 1on1 and defeated? we all know that when a team fights one person, the individuals on the team often don't perform to their fullest abilities. so when someone says zoom seemed to get the best of a GL while that GL fought as part of the league, that does NOT mean that's how the fight would go in a 1on1 situation . . .

so, who else has zoom defeated aside from flash?

Shit logic.

Mangog's never defeated anyone but Thor on his own, but he'd still tear through Hal.

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Shit logic.

Mangog's never defeated anyone but Thor on his own, but he'd still tear through Hal.

😂

hardly "shit logic". more an observation, actually. one proven time and time again. characters in teams seldom get to show off the full range of their abilities and so are portrayed as 'less' than they are often portrayed in solo situations. so, again, who has zoom defeated 1on1? if no one, that's fine, but if he has defeated someone BESIDES flash 1on1 it would further help to contextually define him.

Originally posted by leonidas
so, again, who has zoom defeated 1on1?

he punched wonder woman really hard....really really hard. 😐

Yeah, nothing complex (or incorrect) about team-created PIS with a character not using the full extent of their powers. Happens to every team or group that's daft enough to have a gigantic power gap in their members. Thor's best showings, for examples, are all from his own books. His worst, Avengers books. It's also how a lot of villains end up in Trans. i.e. "he can take on Superman, WW, AND Hal...holy crap!" when Supes could probably wreck them in one of his solo books.

There's a lot to be said for legitimately balanced teams in that respect. They never have to job to further the story. Much as I'm not a fan of them personally, the FF are an example of this.

As for this match, I don't know or care. I hate speedsters.

crackers

Originally posted by Starscream M
he punched wonder woman really hard....really really hard. 😐

and lost, right?

Originally posted by leonidas
and lost, right?

he got distracted by the wonder twins.

Originally posted by Digi
Yeah, nothing complex (or incorrect) about team-created PIS with a character not using the full extent of their powers. Happens to every team or group that's daft enough to have a gigantic power gap in their members. There's a lot to be said for legitimately balanced teams in that respect. They never have to job to further the story. Much as I'm not a fan of them personally, the FF are an example of this.

👆

I hate speedsters.

crackers

me too. unless they can help me win tournaments . . . 😖hifty:

Originally posted by leonidas
and lost, right?

Originally posted by leonidas
me too. unless they can help me win tournaments . . . 😖hifty:

...which is why I'm always (always) against speed force in tourneys. Besides not liking it, I'm also cognizant enough to know that I don't understand it at all either. Seems like a plot device that inherently ends up contradicting itself eventually.

Though I wasn't in the one that you "speeded" your way to victory. So meh.