501st vs. Hogwarts

Started by Rogue Jedi60 pages

Originally posted by Robtard
I'm bitching?

Gimp the clones some more, I don't see a point to that, do you?

Well, at least you are finally acknowledging the extent of a wizards powers.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
I was editing WITH you, not AT you..... 😛

I know. But it was made totally unfair, so I really dont respect the outcome/ability of the Hogwarts lot, if the clones were gimped in the end to nothingness, then its winning on cheat mode.

And cheat modes, pardon my french, is for pussies. 🙂

I know, I just always wanted to say that. even just once. even out of context. 😄

lol. well, let's put in the Jedi Council, and ban portkeys. They can't apparate students that quick in two hours.

we win. xD

Originally posted by Jaeh.is.Awesome
Insert Jedi Council.

😛

As opposed to the wizard 'council' doing the inserting.. 😖hifty:

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Well, at least you are finally acknowledging the extent of a wizards fanboys powers of reality denial..

Id agree with that.

Originally posted by Jaeh.is.Awesome
I know, I just always wanted to say that. even just once. even out of context. 😄

lol. well, let's put in the Jedi Council, and ban portkeys. They can't apparate students that quick in two hours.

we win. xD

Indeed. 37,326 times out of 37,327 (and only losing while extremely heavily gimped) it seems.

Originally posted by Jaeh.is.Awesome
I know, I just always wanted to say that. even just once. even out of context. 😄

lol. well, let's put in the Jedi Council, and ban portkeys. They can't apparate students that quick in two hours.

Yes they could.

Jedi Council FTW. 😛

the 501st could never even get to Hogwarts...

Originally posted by Grand-Moff-Gav
the 501st could never even get to Hogwarts...

that kinda renders the thread null, so its ignored.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Yes they could.

no they can't. there are a lot of students - we're not talking about just a hundred of them here, and there are only a few (compared to the students) people who can apparate out of there.

and on the other hand, its not shown in the movies how many people could apparate together with only one wizard apparating for them. so it doesn't work.

unless you can say otherwise.

besides, students or not students, with the Jedi Council Hogwarts is pwned.

Originally posted by Jaeh.is.Awesome
that kinda renders the thread null, so its ignored.

Not really, it is a fact of the scenario. The legion could never get to the school, but the wizards can get to the legion. Advantage Dumbledore's Army methinks.

Originally posted by Jaeh.is.Awesome
no they can't. there are a lot of students - we're not talking about just a hundred of them here, and there are only a few (compared to the students) people who can apparate out of there.

and on the other hand, its not shown in the movies how many people could apparate together with only one wizard apparating for them. so it doesn't work.

unless you can say otherwise.

besides, students or not students, with the Jedi Council Hogwarts is pwned.

You got voldy, dumbles, the death eaters, several teachers and students who can apparate.

Voldemort could be 100 yards away,

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/DC-15A_blaster_rifle

see range.

cast the spell, and direct the fire at the Clones, which would reach them in seconds.

Lol, thats a lie. It takes him 4 seconds to even cast the f'ing thing, no way will it reach them in 'seconds. In the ten or so seconds it takes for him to cast the spell, one out of the 500 clones will get him becuase....

. Invisible, 100 yards away, no way they ever see him. The fiendfyre takes half a second to cast. Voldemort can cast the spell, then scamper away while controlling it in case the clones see where the fiendfyre left a trail of burnt ground. They will be shooting at where the fiendfyre started, while Voldemort has moved to a new location, invisible.

...Clones have sensors built into their armour. They'll know where Voldemort is all the time. Or Anakin will be able to just sense and eliminate him.

They were all used in the movies. The Death eaters would apparate, appear in an instant, cast the spell, topple the walker, and be gone before the clones knew they were there. Less than a second to apparate. Second or two to cast the spell and topple the walker. If there are 10 death eaters, MAYBE the clones get four or five.

Prove that please. And leviosa takes alot longer than a 'second or two' to use, see HP 1. And do you really think that 10 or so people will be able to take on 500 (picture that amount in your head this time) super soldiers and tanks without being wiped out in the first 2 seconds? And the clones will be on full-alert, expecting an attack, they'll spot them in the first second, raise and fire in the next one and the wizards will be dead right away after that.

Plus I thought the Death Eater's were dealing with Anakin, you can't have it both ways y'know. 🙄

Doesnt matter what he is doing they apparate and surround him, death spell him, then apparate away. There will be at least 20ish attacking him at once. And the clones are on fire, remember?

Well if they surround him and death spell him, they'll just hit themselves when he ducks. And once they appear and get past the first few syllables, the clones'll have 'em. Plus, movie feats only, only around 3 death eaters have used the Death spell, and Anakin can block those with his saber, easy as pie.

And no, they clones won't be on fire, as the spell will be useless after Voldy cops it.

Did I say anything about a frontal assault?

They appear and start casting spells, you can't get more frontal than that.

I already said that in the initial post, dude. She apparates, casts a spell, and can be gone in less than a second. She does this in OOTP.

I actually know that, not being mentally retarded. And please, 'less than a second', it'll take at least 3 second brains. Unless you think she'll apparate with her wand pointing directly at the target already?

Good point, you got me there.

Wait, no you dont, the wizards will just straight up apparate. No smoke, instantaneous, like shown in OOTP.

Gee, your so witty. I think my nipples just exploded I was laughing so hard.

Really now? What are they gonna do about the fiendfyre that is being cast by a master wizard who is invisible and 100 yards away? Please tell me something feasible here.

Shoot him. Easy. Or choke him.

Seriously though, your scenario has waaaay too many holes in it and it all relies on everything going off flawlessly and the wizards being genius military leaders. Typically, such plans fail miserably. At most I'd give you maybe a 1/30 win for the wizards, if I was generous. All the other times though, the clones stroll to victory.

Dumbledore and Voldemort could eradicate the entire Jedi Council in seconds...they are wizards.

Originally posted by Nephthys
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/DC-15A_blaster_rifle

see range.

Lol, thats a lie. It takes him 4 seconds to even cast the f'ing thing, no way will it reach them in 'seconds. In the ten or so seconds it takes for him to cast the spell, one out of the 500 clones will get him becuase....

...Clones have sensors built into their armour. They'll know where Voldemort is all the time. Or Anakin will be able to just sense and eliminate him.

Prove that please. And leviosa takes alot longer than a 'second or two' to use, see HP 1. And do you really think that 10 or so people will be able to take on 500 (picture that amount in your head this time) super soldiers and tanks without being wiped out in the first 2 seconds? And the clones will be on full-alert, expecting an attack, they'll spot them in the first second, raise and fire in the next one and the wizards will be dead right away after that.

Plus I thought the Death Eater's were dealing with Anakin, you can't have it both ways y'know. 🙄

Well if they surround him and death spell him, they'll just hit themselves when he ducks. And once they appear and get past the first few syllables, the clones'll have 'em. Plus, movie feats only, only around 3 death eaters have used the Death spell, and Anakin can block those with his saber, easy as pie.

And no, they clones won't be on fire, as the spell will be useless after Voldy cops it.

They appear and start casting spells, you can't get more frontal than that.

I actually know that, not being mentally retarded. And please, 'less than a second', it'll take at least 3 second brains. Unless you think she'll apparate with her wand pointing directly at the target already?

Gee, your so witty. I think my nipples just exploded I was laughing so hard.

Shoot him. Easy. Or choke him.

Seriously though, your scenario has waaaay too many holes in it and it all relies on everything going off flawlessly and the wizards being genius military leaders. Typically, such plans fail miserably. At most I'd give you maybe a 1/30 win for the wizards, if I was generous. All the other times though, the clones stroll to victory.

I have already addressed all your points, they have been buried, go back and read. Even Rob and sadako admitted defeat.

Originally posted by Nephthys
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/DC-15A_blaster_rifle

see range.

Lol, thats a lie. It takes him 4 seconds to even cast the f'ing thing, no way will it reach them in 'seconds. In the ten or so seconds it takes for him to cast the spell, one out of the 500 clones will get him becuase....

...Clones have sensors built into their armour. They'll know where Voldemort is all the time. Or Anakin will be able to just sense and eliminate him.

Prove that please. And leviosa takes alot longer than a 'second or two' to use, see HP 1. And do you really think that 10 or so people will be able to take on 500 (picture that amount in your head this time) super soldiers and tanks without being wiped out in the first 2 seconds? And the clones will be on full-alert, expecting an attack, they'll spot them in the first second, raise and fire in the next one and the wizards will be dead right away after that.

Plus I thought the Death Eater's were dealing with Anakin, you can't have it both ways y'know. 🙄

Well if they surround him and death spell him, they'll just hit themselves when he ducks. And once they appear and get past the first few syllables, the clones'll have 'em. Plus, movie feats only, only around 3 death eaters have used the Death spell, and Anakin can block those with his saber, easy as pie.

And no, they clones won't be on fire, as the spell will be useless after Voldy cops it.

They appear and start casting spells, you can't get more frontal than that.

I actually know that, not being mentally retarded. And please, 'less than a second', it'll take at least 3 second brains. Unless you think she'll apparate with her wand pointing directly at the target already?

Gee, your so witty. I think my nipples just exploded I was laughing so hard.

Shoot him. Easy. Or choke him.

Seriously though, your scenario has waaaay too many holes in it and it all relies on everything going off flawlessly and the wizards being genius military leaders. Typically, such plans fail miserably. At most I'd give you maybe a 1/30 win for the wizards, if I was generous. All the other times though, the clones stroll to victory.

Well they'd HAVE to now, that RJ stole all their gear. 😖hifty:

Ummmmmm no thats bollocks. I Never admitted defeat.

That was entirely in your head, Im afraid.

I conceeded that you had gimped it too heavy, finally for the clones to win at all under your awesomely sublimely, crazily biased 9,000,000.000th new set of rules that you had bought in.

(Admitting that its not worth playing silly uber biased games with spite gimping all the way throughout?)

Big difference...

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You got voldy, dumbles, the death eaters, several teachers and students who can apparate.

show me figures (or estimates, anyway) and I'll believe that its possible.

@grand-moff-gav: ....then let's put in the entire Jedi order, + sith lords. 😄

if someone's gets a quick shot at the wizards, tho, they're toast.

I have already addressed all your points, they have been buried, go back and read. Even Rob and sadako admitted defeat.

No you haven't. I've read everything, you didn't address shit. And Rob and sadako have been blinded by hatred. With my unclouded eyes I can easily see the immense shite that is your argument.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Ummmmmm no. Never admitted defeat.

That was entirely in your head, Im afraid.

I conceeded that you had gimped it too heavy, finally for the clones to win at all under your awesomely sublimely, crazily biased new rules that you had bought in.

(Admitting that its not worth playing silly uber biased games with spite gimping all the way throughout?)

Big difference.

If biased means an even playing field, guilty.