How are they gonna have intel? Muggles have no way of providing the intel, a wizard isn't gonna give them intel, they have no way of gathering intel on their own, that negates intel.
No, YOU explain why the clones would lay waste to an entire region when they never did it in the movies. You made the claim they would, now explain WHY they would when they never did in the movies.
Survey saaaaaaaaaaaaaaays....They wouldnt.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
The start destroyers in the PT are never seen doing that. Movies feats only.
ah. well, there is more than one way to destroy a place.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Okay flying a star destroyer or two at it, with all guns, bombs and missiles blazing, then colliding with the floor at massive speed should do. 🙂Intelligence people have their ways, Anakin has displayed mind reading ability. He likes a bit of torture, too.
they can do that, too. They could just crash a star destroyer or multiple fighters using droids onto Hogwarts.
also, don't you have to speak most of the spells before they hit you? probably the Force would warn Anakin that something's going to happen, and Anakin hears someone say the spell and immediately kills him/her with the force or slices with the lightsaber. Anakin's kinda bright.
hm, at first i thought the Hogwarts guys would take this hands down, but it seems that the troopers have a good chance too. Anakin's a good tactician, so getting around some of these problems would be easy enough. I mean, they would probably try to find out as much info as they can on a place before they attack it. and if hogwarts never saw it coming... well... 501st might have a chance.
Originally posted by KingD19
Just to put this out there, they would have to know where Hogwarts is for them to actually assault it. You know this Rogue, you're running out of steam so you're just looking for anything you can find, but you're still not winning this debate.
Dude, the debate has been won. Portkeys protecting Hogwarts and transporting the clones who touch them is full of win. Go ahead and counter this, I dare you. I double dare you.
Muggles cannot see Hogwarts, clones are muggles, Anakin is a muggle. do the math. Saying clones can see Hogwarts is like saying they can wield the force. It aint happening.
And if the dementors are involved, it gets even messier for the clones.
But I am betting Lum comes in here and says no ships and no dementors. Fine.
Portkeys.
Ocean.
Drowning clones.
Wizards win.
In closing:
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Dude, the debate has been won. Portkeys protecting Hogwarts and transporting the clones who touch them is full of win. Go ahead and counter this, I dare you. I double dare you.Muggles cannot see Hogwarts, clones are muggles, Anakin is a muggle. do the math. Saying clones can see Hogwarts is like saying they can wield the force. It aint happening.
And if the dementors are involved, it gets even messier for the clones.
But I am betting Lum comes in here and says no ships and no dementors. Fine.
Portkeys.
Ocean.
Drowning clones.
Wizards win.
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You're effectively trying to make the thread pointless as well as nullifying your own portkey argument.
You claim the Clones can't see and thus can't find Hogwarts...So what's the point of this thread then? To have the wizards at Hogwarts just sit there knowing they can't be found.
And if they can't be found then what are the chances of the troopers actually falling for any of the portkey traps anyway?
Originally posted by jaden101
You're effectively trying to make the thread pointless as well as nullifying your own portkey argument.You claim the Clones can't see and thus can't find Hogwarts...So what's the point of this thread then? To have the wizards at Hogwarts just sit there knowing they can't be found.
And if they can't be found then what are the chances of the troopers actually falling for any of the portkey traps anyway?
I was just pointing out that clones are muggles and cannot see Hogwarts, that making it to where the clones can see Hogwarts is essentially changing who they are, changing their attributes and giving them powers they do not possess. It was aimed more towards the clones bombarding Hogwarts from high orbit, I was just saying that if they cannot see Hogwarts, how will they bomb it.
Moot point really, because the start destroyers are not included in this thread. Ground troops only, accordiing to Lum.
Portkeys can be made from anything. Hogwarts can be surrounded with portkeys, making it impossible to approach the castle without touching them. "Portus", thats it, an object becomes a portkey. The caster can determine the location where the victim is transported to. I'd choose a shark pit in the ocean, thats just me. Hell, anywhere in the ocean, drown them.
This is a very feasible and flawless way for the wizards to win.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Just admit that my scenario is a failsafe way for Hogwarts to win. You know it is. I know it is.
You got half of it right with "fail", your scenario is made of pure concentrated fail, sir; here's why. Forum Rule: All opponents have basic knowledge of each other.
So if the Clones have to destroy Hogwarts in this scenario, it stands to reason they have the basic knowledge of where it is, otherwise this thread is futile.
all of this is bullshit. according to the thread starter the 501st launch an attack on Hogwarts, launch is in past-tense meaning its already happened, we just decide the outcome. so if the 501st have launched an attack that means they already know where it is. the thread starter intended for them to know where it is, they do. so theyre gonna kick its ass.
end the thread and stop being ridiculous. the point of a thread isnt to think up a way for your favorite character to win. the point is to analyze who would win if they fought not make up random dumbass scenarios to favor your side.
Originally posted by Robtard
I'm hesitant to say it, but I think HP fanboyism may be even more epic than Star Wars fanboyism and Wolverine fanboyism, it's definitely worth further research.
Indeed it is.
I believe that the methane that comes off of it, will be used as the ultimate non-fossil fuel alternative for the world.
Originally posted by RobtardIndeed. At least SW and Wolverine have something tangible for fanboys like myself to grasp. 😄
I'm hesitant to say it, but I think HP fanboyism may be even more epic than Star Wars fanboyism and Wolverine fanboyism, it's definitely worth further research.
And by the way RJ, you are wrong about the "accio" spell. Force Push has been shown to take on much greater mass, and Jedi are in fact capable of combing their Force powers to reach a common goal. Wizards can't combine spells to make them more powerful. Vaders influence over the Force would decimate Hogwarts and make it crash to the ground. Over.