Black Panther (T'Challa) vs. Elektra

Originally posted by jinzin
Black Panther's likely stronger than Elektra, he's in no way more durable. His suit makes his durability better not the man.

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That's not a "speedblitz" (pffft stupid phrase). Wolverine threw an attack that Black Panther effectively countered which was fast.... all it shows without a doubt is that Panther was A) fast, and B) fast enough to surprise Wolverine.

What it doesn't show is conclusive proof that BP is faster than Wolverine, OR fast enough to pull off a legitimate blitz on Wolverine going in high gear (Whom you must of course remember also has a nice fight feat against BP.)..... I seriously fail to see what exactly you think that proves when Wolverine has also noted Elektra's speed as well. 😕

Now, against cannon fodder or not Elektra's best feats of speed are well above the likes of most street levels in worse off conditions.

But if big-name characters are so important; Elektra's snatched Punisher's gun out of his hand from 5 feet away while he had her marked as a target without him even realizing what happened. That's a legitimate blitz and far and above the likes of what BP has produced.

Originally posted by Trackz
most of Elektra's speed feats, are are her natural speed coupled with her tp, which is why she vanishes from peoples sight and such.

That's speculation. And wrong.

Originally posted by Konton
That's speculation. And wrong.

Originally posted by Trackz
most of Elektra's speed feats, are are her natural speed coupled with her tp, which is why she vanishes from peoples sight and such.

Originally posted by Trackz
she's done it before...

When? How do you block gun fire bullet for bullet with tp?

Originally posted by Trackz
I would consider tha canon, and if that's true that would make blade movie characters canon, since they have been featured in promotional comics yet marvel has stated that they're not. Also there's the fact that the imperfects nor the events that took place have been referenced since...

Uh, the Blade comics took established characters and gave them completely different backgrounds and characterizations. How is that like the Imperfect comics AT ALL? 😕

Which took existing characters, with cannon backgrounds and put them in a mini... it's essentially the same as a one shot. 🤨

Originally posted by jinzin
Uh, the Blade comics took established characters and gave them completely different backgrounds and characterizations. How is that like the Imperfect comics AT ALL? 😕

Which took existing characters, with cannon backgrounds and put them in a mini... it's essentially the same as a one shot. 🤨

Originally posted by Trackz
most of Elektra's speed feats, are are her natural speed coupled with her tp, which is why she vanishes from peoples sight and such.

No, most of her speed feats are done using SPEED, that she proves to have over and over again, which you continue to ingore, or are otherwise unable to fathom as long as it suits your puposes. Bullshit. It's not TP unless stated or proven otherwise.

Originally posted by Trackz
except the characters and events were non-canon, do you think the game was canon to the marvel universe?

BTW:

You ARE aware that a couple of the last Spidey games have been created canonical to the Ultimate verse right? Like I said, I haven't even played the game but if it was I wouldn't be surprised.

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Originally posted by Trackz
except the characters and events were non-canon, do you think the game was canon to the marvel universe?

Imperfects = CANON. 😐
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/index.html?curid=2342960

Originally posted by jinzin
Pfft, Figured as much...

Imperfects = CANON. 😐
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/index.html?curid=2342960

Originally posted by jinzin
Don't know, I never played the game so I can't even comment about that. What I CAN comment on is the stupidity of assuming that characters who only appear in a mini don't exist in 616. I guess the shredder from Wolverine/Hulk six hours doesn't exist in canon either. 🙄

BTW:

You ARE aware that a couple of the last Spidey games have been created canonical to the Ultimate verse right? Like I said, I haven't even played the game but if it was I wouldn't be surprised.

Originally posted by jinzin
No, most of her speed feats are done using SPEED, that she proves to have over and over again, which you continue to ingore, or are otherwise unable to fathom as long as it suits your puposes. Bullshit. It's not TP unless stated or proven otherwise.

Originally posted by Trackz
based on wikipedia? any official statements?

Based on the fact that the comics preceeded the game just like I said it did, and the canon timeline references. 😐

Originally posted by Trackz
ok, I have the game, the imperfects were involved in a crisis that spanned the country and was all over the news, not only that the characters were created an are partially owned by EA...so the fact that the events of the videogame and the characters in it are only partially (if at all) owned by marvel leads me to believe the comics in non-canon...

Marvel has canon appearances with characters owned by Malibu comics... Which have been bluntly stated to be canon material in spite of the ownership... Keep reachin for them straws I guess.

Originally posted by Trackz
how else does she vanish in and out of rooms? Or allow bullets to bounce off her? She's used it to screw with what people have seen before, why is it hard to believe that she uses it in combination with her speed...

It's hard to believe that every time she's done anything remotely impressive it's a result of TP even though it was never stated in the books or even suggested...

Now look, I get it, BP's another black character so you want to go to any and all lengths to keep his name from getting dragged through the mud, but at some point you have to realize that the arguments you're making are just falling flat on their collective ass... everything from arbitrarily deciding that imperfects was non-canon in spite of no proof to support it, to deciding that Elektra's used TP when it wasn't even stated.. All of this just demonstrates how desperate you are to discredit her ability on the field. What's worse, I fear this is all just in response to your agenda in the Elektra/Blade thread from like a year ago, because you were pullin' the same crap then too.

At the end of the day you have to understand how CONVENIENT an argument it is to say that Elektra uses Tp to do her impressive feats.. It would make her the most ambiguous tp user in the books which is odd since most writers feel it pertenent to imply when PSY talents are using their powers... which come to think of it, MILLER ALSO DID... yes quite convenient for him to simply toss that to the wind and forget to mention she used it later on when he had her doing crazy crap.

Originally posted by jinzin
🤨 The hell kind of logic IS that?

Marvel has canon appearances with characters owned by Malibu comics... Which have been bluntly stated to be canon material in spite of the ownership... Keep reachin for them straws I guess.

Not quite on topic, but don't Marvel legally own the Malibu characters? In which case this isn't relevant.

Do they? I thought Malibu was it's own company back at the time they were crankin out books.

Originally posted by jinzin
🤨 The hell kind of logic IS that?

Marvel has canon appearances with characters owned by Malibu comics... Which have been bluntly stated to be canon material in spite of the ownership... Keep reachin for them straws I guess.