Originally posted by Darth Martinthat I'm not sure about, the vibranium armor is more than durable enough though
She is more skilled. Everyone agrees on that. But Panther is physically superior and has a killer arsenal.Question: Does Panther's "smart armor" form from his normal suit or is it an addition that he has to go put on?
Originally posted by Enyalus
😬 I've got the last two volumes of BP (not counting the latest reboot of the series a few months ago). I've also got a lot of Elektra. She goes against consistently superior H2H opponents like other ninjas, assassins, mercenaries, SHIELD agents, and other MA masters. And usually owns them. And always displays her speed. Black Panther doesn't have that kind of competition in his books.Elektra's consistent - her MA is uber. Unless your name is Bullseye, she's drugged or half dead, or going against a herald-level character, she's going to kick your ass.
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BTW: I don't know if you guys have read it yet, but in Dark Reign 4, Elektra pretty easily handled Bullseye's ass, while drugged, poisioned, and wounded/injured.
Originally posted by Trackzoh and was something wrong with wolverine in that fight, he went to to a sai through the chest, also if those are from the same comic they're not canon..aren't those the comics to promote the videogame marvel nemesis? They have the imperfects in them which aren't canon in marvel...
Oooops.
I'd never even heard of the Imperfects until I saw them in Elektra's respect thread.
Originally posted by jinzin
😂BTW: I don't know if you guys have read it yet, but in Dark Reign 4, Elektra pretty easily handled Bullseye's ass, while drugged, poisioned, and wounded/injured.
Shush....That was deliberately being kept under wraps by us Bullseye fans. Afterall earlier in the month he also got knocked around by Deapool in H2H.
Originally posted by Trackz
oh and was something wrong with wolverine in that fight, he went to to a sai through the chest, also if those are from the same comic they're not canon..aren't those the comics to promote the videogame marvel nemesis? They have the imperfects in them which aren't canon in marvel...
Elektra also beat Logan in Redeemer.
Originally posted by Darth Martin
Well there's no question he's more durable. Her speed I'm not questioning. Her strength and durability I am.
I would need to see some of his strength feats in return.
As for Elektra (taken mostly from her respect thread):
Elektra stabs a man and effortlessly lifts him straight above his head with one arm.
Elektra throws her sai into the barrel of a gun with enough force to rip the mans hand off and propel it through two layers of kevlar and his chest.
Elektra impales two men on her sai and lifts them above her head.
Elektra breaks a mans kneck with a single kick.
Elektra snapes the blade of a dagger in the palm of her hand.
A drugged Elektra breaks out of a straight jacket.
Elektra gets out of her waitress uniform and kills half a dozen men before they can get a shot off. She's casually knocked two of them a good twelve feet into the air.
Elektra kills some assassins shattering their bones with a single blow each and then uses a pressure point to save the life of the assassins who's throat she crushed.
Breaks some bricks.
I already posted her Super Skrull feat.
BLOCKS A BULLET
Runs Paladin through with a blunt pole.
There's many more.
Originally posted by KontonI'm aware, I spent most of yesterday in her respect thread. Strength and Durability since you asked for both. From Black Panther's respect thread.
I would need to see some of his strength feats in return.
Strength
-Sends a perhaps weakened Namor flying.
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-Dropped Karnak in one blow during Civil War. (Page 2 of RT)
-Twisted that monsters jaw while he was with the Fantastic Four. (Page 3 of RT)
Durability
-T'Challa taking a blow from Iron Man.
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-T'Challa in a chokehold courtesy of Iron Man. Stark also comments on his resistance to blunt force.
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-T'Challa suit shows some resistance to the Iron Fist.
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-T'Challa vibranium absorbs most of a casual backhand from the Hulk.
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-T'Challa takes a punch from Namor which sends him into a car.
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Speed
-The infamous "speedblitz" on Wolverine.
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Most of those feats you posted are Elektra vs random thugs. Cannon fodder. I tried to get some of BP feats vs known names.
Black Panther's likely stronger than Elektra, he's in no way more durable. His suit makes his durability better not the man.
Originally posted by Darth Martin
[B]Speed
-The infamous "speedblitz" on Wolverine.
(http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/6645/bpvsxmen2wa.jpg)Most of those feats you posted are Elektra vs random thugs. Cannon fodder. I tried to get some of BP feats vs known names. [/B]
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That's not a "speedblitz" (pffft stupid phrase). Wolverine threw an attack that Black Panther effectively countered which was fast.... all it shows without a doubt is that Panther was A) fast, and B) fast enough to surprise Wolverine.
What it doesn't show is conclusive proof that BP is faster than Wolverine, OR fast enough to pull off a legitimate blitz on Wolverine going in high gear (Whom you must of course remember also has a nice fight feat against BP.)..... I seriously fail to see what exactly you think that proves when Wolverine has also noted Elektra's speed as well. 😕
Now, against cannon fodder or not Elektra's best feats of speed are well above the likes of most street levels in worse off conditions.
But if big-name characters are so important; Elektra's snatched Punisher's gun out of his hand from 5 feet away while he had her marked as a target without him even realizing what happened. That's a legitimate blitz and far and above the likes of what BP has produced.
Your right actually. Don't even know why I called it a speedblitz. It clearly isn't.
I haven't seen Wolverine's speed feat against Panther. Scan please?
Elektra's speed is not in question. I was just worried about her durability. Strength really doesn't matter here because her pressure points are a viabl tactic against his vibranium mesh weave.
Originally posted by jinzin
Black Panther's likely stronger than Elektra, he's in no way more durable. His suit makes his durability better not the man.🤨
That's not a "speedblitz" (pffft stupid phrase). Wolverine threw an attack that Black Panther effectively countered which was fast.... all it shows without a doubt is that Panther was A) fast, and B) fast enough to surprise Wolverine.
What it doesn't show is conclusive proof that BP is faster than Wolverine, OR fast enough to pull off a legitimate blitz on Wolverine going in high gear (Whom you must of course remember also has a nice fight feat against BP.)..... I seriously fail to see what exactly you think that proves when Wolverine has also noted Elektra's speed as well. 😕
Now, against cannon fodder or not Elektra's best feats of speed are well above the likes of most street levels in worse off conditions.
But if big-name characters are so important; Elektra's snatched Punisher's gun out of his hand from 5 feet away while he had her marked as a target without him even realizing what happened. That's a legitimate blitz and far and above the likes of what BP has produced.
that's the point because of his suit, he is more durable than elektra which gives him an edge, he should take the majority
Originally posted by Darth MartinBP has used pressure points many times, it's not as if she is the only one who knows them.
Your right actually. Don't even know why I called it a speedblitz. It clearly isn't.I haven't seen Wolverine's speed feat against Panther. Scan please?
Elektra's speed is not in question. I was just worried about her durability. Strength really doesn't matter here because her pressure points are a viabl tactic against his vibranium mesh weave.
Originally posted by jinzinI would consider tha canon, and if that's true that would make blade movie characters canon, since they have been featured in promotional comics yet marvel has stated that they're not. Also there's the fact that the imperfects nor the events that took place have been referenced since...
No, and no. The Rise of the Imperfects came out after the game release. It was never said to be canon or non canon, it references canon material and doesn't contrast it either, it's no different from promotional movie one shots and mini series that are still canon in 616. 😐Elektra also beat Logan in Redeemer.
