Who is more powerful, Thor or the Silver Surfer?

Originally posted by darthgoober
No abhi, no. It doesn't mean that anymore than someone being able to lift the hammer automatically means that Thor's more powerful.

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That's a test of character, not sheer power. Characters have held off mjolnir returning to Thor before. It's just that Surfer is not powerful enough to do that.

You seem to think that I'm claiming Surfer is outright more powerful but I'm not, personally I think it's a coin toss that ultimately depends on who's writing the situation.

Well I'm claiming that Thor is more powerful. I will even BZ on Surfer being equal to Thor.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's a test of character, not sheer power. Characters have held off mjolnir returning to Thor before. It's just that Surfer is not powerful enough to do that.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Well I'm claiming that Thor is more powerful. I will even BZ on Surfer being equal to Thor.

Well you're free to believe what you want, more power to you. I on the other hand disagree. And I'll have to pass on the I'm not keen on the idea of putting a lot of effort and research on something else you'll likely kamikaze.

Originally posted by darthgoober
It's an enchantment that's part of the hammer's magic. Therefore if we use your logic then anyone who's unable to overcome the enchantment is less powerful than Thor.

What part of "it's a test of character" you can't understand? It's not a test of power.

The returning enchantment has been overpowered several times.

Well you're free to believe what you want, more power to you. I on the other hand disagree. And I'll have to pass on the I'm not keen on the idea of putting a lot of effort and research on something else you'll likely kamikaze.

Concession accepted. Thor Is more powerful than Surfer.

Now stop wasting my time.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Now stop wasting my time.

That sounds cool in a comic book, not so much on a battle forum 😂

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Take the debate Goober.

Ah the psychology of all of this is that Supes fans want Thor to be more powerful than the Surfer because in their mind that justifies Supes being top dog. With Supes having a victory over Thor and all. Funny.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What part of "it's a test of character" you can't understand? It's not a test of power.

The returning enchantment has been overpowered several times.

What are these times of which you speak? To my recollection the return enchantment has only been bypassed by plot device type situations where the opponent was actually able to wield the hammer themselves and that kind of thing.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Concession accepted. Thor Is more powerful than Surfer.

Now stop wasting my time.

Oh abhi, always trying to claim a concession when no such thing has been given lol.

Originally posted by Damborgson
That sounds cool in a comic book, not so much on a battle forum 😂

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Take the debate Goober.

Hey, fair point.

Originally posted by Tar-Antado
Ah the psychology of all of this is that Supes fans want Thor to be more powerful than the Surfer because in their mind that justifies Supes being top dog. With Supes having a victory over Thor and all. Funny.

Norrin would wtfstomp him like he did his peer, Orion. 👆

In a comic Thor will be shown as more powerful (if slightly). In a forum, Surfer is more powerful.

Anyone remember all those times that Surfer humbled Thor and smashed him in combat?

Me either. Because its always the other way. Every single time they aren't stopped.

Marvel views Thor as the mightier from the very beginning.

Originally posted by h1a8
In a comic Thor will be shown as more powerful (if slightly). In a forum, Surfer is more powerful.

Surfer is millions or billions of times more powerful then Thor.

Originally posted by cdtm
Surfer is millions or billions of times more powerful then Thor.

At best (because of the black hole creation). But on average Surfer jobs a lot and his blasts vs his peers sucks.

Originally posted by Damborgson
That sounds cool in a comic book, not so much on a battle forum 😂

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Take the debate Goober.

uhuh

Originally posted by Tar-Antado
Ah the psychology of all of this is that Supes fans want Thor to be more powerful than the Surfer because in their mind that justifies Supes being top dog. With Supes having a victory over Thor and all. Funny.

Originally posted by cdtm
Norrin would wtfstomp him like he did his peer, Orion. 👆

Originally posted by darthgoober
But if they're more powerful than Mjolnir/Thor then by your definition they should be able to overcome that enchantment.

What part of "test of character" are you unable to understand?

How many times are you going to ignore such a simple thing?

What are these times of which you speak? To my recollection the return enchantment has only been bypassed by plot device type situations where the opponent was actually able to wield the hammer themselves and that kind of thing.

Graviton, Dr Spectrum, Ultimo at the top of my head.

A lot more if I start checking my comics.

Oh abhi, always trying to claim a concession when no such thing has been given lol.

You're always running away from me. It's even worse than concession.

Originally posted by cdtm
Surfer is millions or billions of times more powerful then Thor.

Originally posted by Tar-Antado
Ah the psychology of all of this is that Supes fans want Thor to be more powerful than the Surfer because in their mind that justifies Supes being top dog. With Supes having a victory over Thor and all. Funny.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What part of "test of character" are you unable to understand?

How many times are you going to ignore such a simple thing?

abhi I'm using YOUR logic here. You're saying that if Surfer was unable to overpower one of the hammer's enchantments then it means that the hammer(and therefore Thor) are more powerful than he. Well that kind of sweeping characterization would also apply to the rest of the enchantments as well, including the one about lifting it.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Graviton, Dr Spectrum, Ultimo at the top of my head.

A lot more if I start checking my comics.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You're always running away from me. It's even worse than concession.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=13288186#post13288186

Just to chime in....goober wasn't the one who didn't post in his BZ....