If SS can concentrate a planet destroying blast into a single beam then it would be more powerful than the God blast.
SS is significantly faster but Thor is more skilled.
Thor has greater damage soak but SS is more durable.
SS is more versatile but Thor usually hits harder.
In a no nonsense fight SS would win fairly easily. Any scenario Thor wins means that SS has to job.
My vote is Thor is more powerful if we go by averages though.
Originally posted by playa1258
Thor is more powerful as Surfer himself admitted.
Originally posted by h1a8
If SS can concentrate a planet destroying blast into a single beam then it would be more powerful than the God blast.SS is significantly faster but Thor is more skilled.
Thor has greater damage soak but SS is more durable.
SS is more versatile but Thor usually hits harder.
In a no nonsense fight SS would win fairly easily. Any scenario Thor wins means that SS has to job.
My vote is Thor is more powerful if we go by averages though.
Surfer is slower than Spider Man in true speed, iirc he failed to keep up with Mjolnir in flight speed under Fraction post Fear Itself.
Surfer explicitly got mudstomped by Thor while going all out and also failed to defeat an injured Thor.
Thor>Surfer in power, period.
Originally posted by Facee
How fast can Surfer fly around without the board?
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He can't.
Yes he can...
http://s599.photobucket.com/user/comicsage/media/Silver%20Surfer/combat/FF-V1-55-12.jpg.html
http://s599.photobucket.com/user/comicsage/media/Silver%20Surfer/combat/FF-V1-55-13.jpg.html
http://postimg.org/image/a2onnzjgt/
But it's such a rare occurrence that he's never been clocked or anything.
Originally posted by darthgoober
That's not actually what Surfer said. He said that the hammer's magic was mightier than his cosmic force. The only magic he'd seen from the hammer was it's "return" enchantment which he repetedly tried to interrupt with energy blasts. All he was saying was that he shouldn't have been able to keep Thor's hammer from him as successfully as he finally accomplished by putting it in a simple energy block.
The mental gymnastics are pretty amusing.
Originally posted by cdtm
Surfer's infinitely more powerful.
Originally posted by abhilegend
😂The mental gymnastics are pretty amusing.
No gymnastics, just context. Read the story, the return enchantment is the only magic he saw from the hammer and he saw it when he was trying to blast it away from Thor while it kept trying to return to Thor's hand.
*Edit*
My bad, he also saw the hammer's ability to absorb energy blasts. But even that bit of magic doesn't fit the context of Surfer's statement after he'd trapped it in a forcefield.
Originally posted by darthgoober
No gymnastics, just context. Read the story, the return enchantment is the only magic he saw from the hammer and he saw it when he was trying to blast it away from Thor while it kept trying to return to Thor's hand.*Edit*
My bad, he also saw the hammer's ability to absorb energy blasts. But even that bit of magic doesn't fit the context of Surfer's statement after he'd trapped it in a forcefield.
Because this is just nonsense "Oh he only saw one enchantment and hence its not true what he said".
Seriously, WTF?
Originally posted by abhilegend
I'm supposed to think that the enchantment of return isn't a part of mjolnir then?Because this is just nonsense "Oh he only saw one enchantment and hence its not true what he said".
Seriously, WTF?
Surfer noting the power of such a specific enchantment isn't the same as him outright saying that Thor's more powerful.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Of course it's part of Mjolnir, but it's an extremely powerful and specific enchantment. But the fact the return enchantment can't be overpowered by energy blast doesn't mean that Thor's more powerful anymore than someone being unabe to lift the hammer is automatically less powerful. I mean the return enchantment was enough to punch a hole strait through Angrir seemingly without even losing speed/momentum.Surfer noting the power of such a specific enchantment isn't the same as him outright saying that Thor's more powerful.
Surfer outright said that Thor's hammer is more powerful than his cosmic power. Yes, it makes Thor more powerful no matter how much it chafes you. End of discussion.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Mjolnir is a part of Thor's power. You're basically saying mjolnir is more powerful than Surfer but Thor with mjolnir isn't.Surfer outright said that Thor's hammer is more powerful than his cosmic power. Yes, it makes Thor more powerful no matter how much it chafes you. End of discussion.
Originally posted by abhilegend
If anyone wants to do a BZ between Thor and Surfer regarding who is more powerful, I will do it with Thor.Are you ready for that Goober?
You seem to think that I'm claiming Surfer is outright more powerful but I'm not, personally I think it's a coin toss that ultimately depends on who's writing the situation.
People keep talking about that Fraction Thor vs Surfer fight, but they came off looking decently even to me.
Thor headbutted Surfer and bled from it, winced from the pain, Surfer's forehead was dented a bit but he felt no pain from it.
Then they had a fight on Mars or something later on and neither were really hurting each other with their blasts.
Surfer however was holding back and trying to be diplomatic. Thor was bloodlusted and willing to kill, but he did have some magic injury (though said injury was not stated to dampen his power and he was wearing that special space armor that would have added to his protection anyway).
Originally posted by darthgoober
No abhi, no. It doesn't mean that anymore than someone being able to lift the hammer automatically means that Thor's more powerful.You seem to think that I'm claiming Surfer is outright more powerful but I'm not, personally I think it's a coin toss that ultimately depends on who's writing the situation.
