The Last Evil Pig vs Kain

Started by MooCowofJustice12 pages

ime curious out of amusement, why is the evil pig automaticaly in his pig form and not in his ball of light form that Kain can't harm?

Also ime curious out of amusement, is Kain even fast enough to hit the evil pig?

Because the ball of light form is useless and you mean Kain cant harm it physically...its shown no resistance to magic and its only basic logic which may not hold true in the pigs universe that makes you think Kain cannot grab him physically. besides the ball of light form he cant seem to sustain for long and cannot really attack from it. Either way Kain is invulerable to the pig until he destroys it with a spell or if hes bored and wants the pig to piss itself with fear first he can use physical force and w8 for it to emerge from the ball of light.

The evil pig is not fast so.....I should hope so unless for this match Kain is not allowed teleportation, time slow of his own or typical movement. Its likely Kain just uses TK to hold the pig in place as well.

And if were using canon powers Kain just waves his hand and removes magic from the pig alltogether. Then he can just play nosgothic football with its remains with his sons who want a bit of quality time with daddy.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Because the ball of light form is useless and you mean Kain cant harm it physically...its shown no resistance to magic and its only basic logic which may not hold true in the pigs universe that makes you think Kain cannot grab him physically. besides the ball of light form he cant seem to sustain for long and cannot really attack from it. Either way Kain is invulerable to the pig until he destroys it with a spell or if hes bored and wants the pig to piss itself with fear first he can use physical force and w8 for it to emerge from the ball of light.

The evil pig is not fast so.....I should hope so unless for this match Kain is not allowed teleportation, time slow of his own or typical movement. Its likely Kain just uses TK to hold the pig in place as well.

And if were using canon powers Kain just waves his hand and removes magic from the pig alltogether. Then he can just play nosgothic football with its remains with his sons who want a bit of quality time with daddy.

It's a ball of light. Light doesn't take damage at all.

The Evil Pig was in his light form for the entire game until you start that fight. He can do anything from it that he needs to, like his time stop spell that Kain can't stop him from casting.

The pig has teleportation of its own. And all of Kains powers due to his copy of the Soul Reaver.

TK can't keep light from moving.

So. About that Kain statue. Would you like to keep it clean? I don't think anyone else here likes Kain enough to keep all the bird poop off it.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
It's a ball of light. Light doesn't take damage at all.

The Evil Pig was in his light form for the entire game until you start that fight. He can do anything from it that he needs to, like his time stop spell that Kain can't stop him from casting.

The pig has teleportation of its own. And all of Kains powers due to his copy of the Soul Reaver.

TK can't keep light from moving.

So. About that Kain statue. Would you like to keep it clean? I don't think anyone else here likes Kain enough to keep all the bird poop off it.

Prove it, prove its just a ball of light, for all you know it could be an illusion, he could just be illuminated, and actually light can take damage in fiction so your talking nonsense. Especially from fictional things like magic, Kain could quite easily kill the pig with spells that hit the soul, not physical form, but ofc you dont have any clue about what Kain can really do.

Kain does not need to, with repel shield every spell cast to affect Kain reflects back on the user...so the pig freezes himself if Kain "allows" him to get a spell off.

Weve been through this, your just trolling now.

Light? maybe not but a pink creating to fabrication to shield himself perhaps...not that the pig could stay in it indefinaltey.

You mean the pig statue....or the bigs body smashed on the ground as his light form is destroyed, or Kain just uses darkness and overshadows it wipeing the pig from excistence 🙄

You have zero evidence for any of the pigs attributes, all we know is that a young jungle boy can catch up with him, manhandle him and defeat him by tossin him in a bag. Kain would ofc just rip the pig in half.

now your doing a Terry lol..which is amusing.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Prove it, prove its just a ball of light, for all you know it could be an illusion, he could just be illuminated, and actually light can take damage in fiction so your talking nonsense. Especially from fictional things like magic, Kain could quite easily kill the pig with spells that hit the soul, not physical form, but ofc you dont have any clue about what Kain can really do.

Kain does not need to, with repel shield every spell cast to affect Kain reflects back on the user...so the pig freezes himself if Kain "allows" him to get a spell off.

Weve been through this, your just trolling now.

Light? maybe not but a pink creating to fabrication to shield himself perhaps...not that the pig could stay in it indefinaltey.

You mean the pig statue....or the bigs body smashed on the ground as his light form is destroyed, or Kain just uses darkness and overshadows it wipeing the pig from excistence 🙄

You have zero evidence for any of the pigs attributes, all we know is that a young jungle boy can catch up with him, manhandle him and defeat him by tossin him in a bag. Kain would ofc just rip the pig in half.

now your doing a Terry lol..which is amusing.

It's obvious by looking at it that it's a ball of light.

So the pigs staff copies Repel shield and it bounces around indefinitely. But yeah, now we're assuming Kain can stop the Time freeze spell, which he can't.

Nope.

Light? maybe not but a pink creating to fabrication to shield himself perhaps...not that the pig could stay in it indefinaltey.

What? Rephrase that and make it understandable.

You can't damage light. It is the young boy to your 65 year old pedophile, you can't touch it, but it can touch you.

We know that the evil pig let himself be defeated.

Maybe I will pull a Terry, you can debate with yourself all over again.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
It's obvious by looking at it that it's a ball of light.

So the pigs staff copies Repel shield and it bounces around indefinitely. But yeah, now we're assuming Kain can stop the Time freeze spell, which he can't.

Nope.

What? Rephrase that and make it understandable.

You can't damage light. It is the young boy to your 65 year old pedophile, you can't touch it, but it can touch you.

We know that the evil pig let himself be defeated.

Maybe I will pull a Terry, you can debate with yourself all over again.

The pig has not copied any spells, your making abilities up as you go along lol....the pig will have a super lazer beamz next.....

Ofc you can damage light in fiction, just like you can damage shadow, the pig has no resistance. He will simply be blinked out of excistence by Kain putting shadow over his light if he really wants to.

Originally posted by Burning thought
The pig has not copied any spells, your making abilities up as you go along lol....the pig will have a super lazer beamz next.....

Ofc you can damage light in fiction, just like you can damage shadow, the pig has no resistance. He will simply be blinked out of excistence by Kain putting shadow over his light if he really wants to.

His staff copies any weapon. A spell is a weapon. So the pig waves his staff and the spell gets sent right back at Kain.

No, you can't. You could damage someone with a light attribute, but not actual light itself. To cast a shadow over anything you have to add another light source and get between it and the evil pig. Which Kain can't do fast enough because the pig isn't going to stand still. You don't make any sense at all.

No its not, its never shown to copy a spell, simple.

Or use the dark enshroud element and make himself a shadow, besides Kain has slashed apart shadow/light beings with his sword, theres wraths, not that its relevent, Kain hits souls with his weapons so the pig is not safe in any form.

I'm certain the majority of Kain's spells come from the balance emblem.

I want feats. Strength feats, speed feats and this slashing apart light beings nonsense. Basic knowledge stands until proven otherwise and basic knowledge says light can't be attacked.

He doesnt beed strength because the pig can be manhandled by a boy, nor speed, for the same reason, as for light, he can slash shadow which is actually shown and shadow is arguably more immaterial than light:

YouTube video

2:32

"these strange creatures seem to manifest from the very shadows"

But on "basic knowledge" Kain can slash the pig due to the soul striking/devouring powers of the blade.

Off-topic question: which LoK game is the last chronologically?

Defiance

Originally posted by Burning thought
Defiance

Because some guys are saying it's Blood Omen 2.

No Defiance is the last LoK game. Why people think it's BO2 I have no idea. Good game though and so is Defiance.

Off Topic: Hey BT, got any intel that there might be a new LoK game in the works?

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Because some guys are saying it's Blood Omen 2.

Thats weird, the latest chronological game is definaltey Defiance, it goes:

Blood omen
Blood omen 2
Soul reaver
Soul reaver 2
Defiance

Soul reaver is estimated at least 1000 years after BO 2

Originally posted by Nemesis X
Off Topic: Hey BT, got any intel that there might be a new LoK game in the works?

Tbh Ive not been looking for it, although I must say ive read an arcticle a few months ago about how a new manager has great interest in making a new LOK game. Try typing in "new LOK game" in your search engine.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Tbh Ive not been looking for it, although I must say ive read an arcticle a few months ago about how a new manager has great interest in making a new LOK game. Try typing in "new LOK game" in your search engine.

I just tried looking for it but couldn't find anything. If this keeps up, LoK will be as dead as Raziel's skin.

Prob already is dead, I think Amy herring, the writer of the newer games left and Taylor who did the voice of the Elder God among others unfortunatley died.

Although I would not lose hope, if the CEO of Eidos which is mentioned in this video below really did say he had a major interest in the game series there may be one. It was a very good series, although not mainstream it had a huge following and still does.

YouTube video

Originally posted by Burning thought
He doesnt beed strength because the pig can be manhandled by a boy, nor speed, for the same reason, as for light, he can slash shadow which is actually shown and shadow is arguably more immaterial than light:

YouTube video

2:32

"these strange creatures seem to manifest from the very shadows"

But on "basic knowledge" Kain can slash the pig due to the soul striking/devouring powers of the blade.

Tomba is abnormally strong and fast for a boy. So yes, Kain needs Strength and Speed feats.

The shadow creature thing is irrelevant. In order for these creatures to do any damage to Kain or something else they've obviously been concentrated enough to have a physical form.

The ball of light is not concentrated. And Kain cannot hack through a real shadow like he did to the shadow creatures.

So now we still have the pig freezing Kain in time. Oh, and the statue. We love the statue. Kain's skin will start to match his hair.

Show me his strength feats.

Your assuming again, their shadow beings, your inventing things e.g. them having a physical form.

Kains blade passes through the pigs light form like air and takes its soul on the way through, then it drops as a corpse on the floor or dissolves.

As I told you already, repel will stop any spell touching Kain, so even if you take Kains soul powers away from him and ignore feats of kains sword destroying shadow beings which your bound to he does not get touched at all by the pig or its powers.

Sucking on Kain's sagged balls sack will not save him from losing.