Rorschach and John McClane switch places

Started by Darth Martin5 pages

Uhhh, because throughout his films he's turned the likes of a magazine, newspaper, champagne, pen, wash cloth, and a book into a deadly weapon? 🤨

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Veidt is not superhuman.

...You saw the movie, right?

McClane is superhuman in endurance.

He's not superhuman, though.

And with his luck, Veidt beats up on McClane and then McClane trips him and sends him out the window.

God, this is silly.

Yes I did. Exaggerated human laden Violence..
Stylistic for the camera.
But no one in that movie was a superpower weilder except Dr. Manhattan. 🙂 Fact.
But the director insisted on Batman armour and stylistic frame rate changes and strength etc
Do you consider Batman and Ironman be superhuman..?

Have YOU seen the movie..?
(It has the bit where Hollis wrote that the arrival of Dr. Manhattan was the dawning of the age of the super hero. Cause everyone previous and subsequent was a masked avenger.)

True. You noticed my using the term loosely. Well done. 😐

And yes. It is. Welcome to KMC.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
But no one in that movie was a superpower weilder except Dr. Manhattan. 🙂 Fact.
Yet you claim McClane is?

Ozymandias is superhuman in strength, speed, and reflexes. 🙂 Fact. Comedian was superhuman as well. Nite Owl, Rorschach, and Silk Spectre? Not so much, yet I'd say those three are superior to Batman by varying degrees.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Do you consider Batman and Ironman be superhuman..?
Batman? No. Iron Man? Yes, his armor grants him superhuman strength, durability, and flight capable of supersonic speeds.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Welcome to KMC.
He's not new.

No. As I said above. The word superhuman is used loosely with Mcclane, like with the non-Doc Manhattan watchmen.

They werent meant to be. Doc Manhattan was the 1st superhuman in that universe. Everyone else is just a human masked avenger.

Thats just a dude in an armoured suit not a superpowered human being.

I know hes not new.

McClane would have became Dr. McClane and pwned everything and lets not forget... gets the bitches

For the argument of "who'd win in a fight, Ozymandias vs McClane" the answer is undoubtedly Ozy.

I dunno. Night owl gave him a beating, and Night owl is human.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
I dunno. Night owl gave him a beating, and Night owl is human.

Veidt just stood there and took it, and looked barely phased at all.

His face showed damage. And if Nightowl had gone to work on his nuts, or carried on, he could have beat him.

(But as he didnt even react like that in the graphic novel, it would have been too much for him to kill Veidt off. )

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
I dunno. Night owl gave him a beating, and Night owl is human.
Nite Owl would wreck McClane's shit. Ozymandias wasn't even fighting against Nite Owl in that instance. When he did put up a fight he pwned Nite Owl and Rorschach with seemingly ease.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
His face showed damage. And if Nightowl had gone to work on his nuts, or carried on, he could have beat him.

(But as he didnt even react like that in the graphic novel, it would have been too much for him to kill Veidt off. )

How could Niteowl have beaten Veidt solo if he couldnt even beat him with Rorschach's help?

Well.

There you go.

Rorscash couldnt beat him.

No shame in McClane not being able to beat him either.

But McClane is more lucky than Rorschash.
And since McClane would have realised the point of not telling the world about what had transpired, he wouldnt have been destroyed by Manhattan. 🙂

Mac Wins! Woot!

Originally posted by Quincy
How could Niteowl have beaten Veidt solo if he couldnt even beat him with Rorschach's help?

Cause Adrian felt he deserved it by then.

McClane's luck comes to him when he's about to fall of a bridge or is conjuring up a plan. Not in the middle of a h2h fight as we've seen over the years.

The movies dispute that.

Please enlighten me. McClane got the SUV after she kicked his ass. McClane blew the plane up after he kicked him off.

Ok.

The 1st fight he had against Karl's brother in Die hard 1.
He could very easily have been the one with thew broken neck.

The sudden finding of chains to put around Karls neck...

Using the lever chain gag againstthe russian in DH3.
The fact that McClane was being shot at in the cable descent, and the truck fell, pulling the cable tight, killing the guty shooting at him.

Shooting that guy through with single shots the table in DH1 before the guy could return fire on full auto was pretty lucky.

Lucking out and managing to find an ice pick to kill that army dude in DH2.

The luck of his gun being accessable on that escalator in the airport, in the bottleneck ambush.... (and most of that fight, for that matter.)

The hamster guy.

Getting out of that grenade situation at the end of the confict with the marines when Esparonza landed.

When McClane is blind shooting round corners, and plugging badguys in DH 4.0.

The bit where McClane is jammy enough to not be killed when that Jetski exploded, and jammy enough not to get caught when that Jetskier passed opening upon McClane with live rounds whilst McClane had blanks.

These are just a few instances of more typical McClane luck situations. 🙂
Hope that helps, grasshopper. 🙂

Also, she cheap shotted him after waking up from the unconciousness that he put he into. Not exactlty an asskicking other than the fact that the ambuih shot was a kick.

Originally posted by Darth Martin
Please enlighten me. McClane got the SUV after she kicked his ass. McClane blew the plane up after he kicked him off.

Correction: He kicked her ass, ie he actually knocked her out. He got into SUV because he needed to get back up there to save the computer-boy ASAP. Really, just shows how resourceful McClane is.

Originally posted by Robtard
Correction: He kicked her ass, ie he actually knocked her out. He got into SUV because he needed to get back up there to say the computer-boy ASAP. Really, just shows how resourceful McClane is.

QFT