If God knew that Satan would rebel and Adam and Eve would sin, why did He create?

Originally posted by atv2
and even that is our choice.

You have tunnel vision and want to preach your garbage religion instead of actually discussing it. You ignore the fact that your God gave Satan the power to deceive us all and thus control of our choices and free will.

If all you will do is deny without an argument against this then you are just another literalist fool.

Regards
DL

Originally posted by atv2
We all have a choice in who we serve. However being raised in an atmosphere can put a hold on someone because they didn't have knowledge of what they were in to.

Knowledge brings freedom and ignorance brings bondage.

What freedom did eating from the tree of knowledge come to A & E?

You seem to be endorsing the notion that they should have done what they did.

For A & E to not eat from the T O K would have been denying themselves freedom. Right?

Regards
DL

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Thanks

God didn't kill them (if this is what you are implying?). God punished Adam & Eve for disobeying him and sent them to Earth. In a mystery world called "heaven," Adam & Eve were living comfortably but the situation was different in Earth; Adam & Eve had to work hard for survival and this trend continuous to this day within mankind in Earth.

God have absolute control over life and death matters but he have blessed us (humans) with free will and great intelligence. Just look at the situation of mankind in current times; people around the world are committing all kinds of sins/forbidden acts and yet God continuous to tolerate.

It is foolish to judge God harshly. Humans misuse their free will; God judges in response.

I don't see your point here... 😕

No

Faith distinguishes a human from an animal.

It is foolish to not judge God with whatever intelligence you say he gave you as you end following a genocidal son murdering God and think him good.

So much for your Christian morality.

We have no place to go from here since you have made up some new version of Genesis.

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DL

Well if you believe Jesus was God then God is not "son murdering" but is in fact "self sacrificing".

Wouldn't it be more like letting your MMORPG avatar get killed?

Nice i was actually thinking something like that 😂

Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
Faith distinguishes a human from an animal.

Now does it? Maybe you mean that animals don't need Faith because they are our superiors.

Originally posted by juggerman
Well if you believe Jesus was God then God is not "son murdering" but is in fact "self sacrificing".

Where in scriptures does it say that God can die and or sacrifice himself?

Only a really bloated ego will think that a God would die for his slaves nad not have the slaves die for him.

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DL

Originally posted by Greatest I am
Where in scriptures does it say that God can die and or sacrifice himself?

Only a really bloated ego will think that a God would die for his slaves nad not have the slaves die for him.

Regards
DL

Jesus says several times that He and God are one, that He is God, that He was there at the beginning and other things that point to him being God.

Only if you look at it from one viewpoint. It's made clear in Scripture that we are looked at as his children, not slaves. Humans would die for their children, granted not all would, so why is it unbelievable that the one who molded us would?

Jesus isn't God, brobeans.

Originally posted by Mindset
Jesus isn't God, brobeans.

Originally posted by juggerman
Jesus says several times that He and God are one, that He is God, that He was there at the beginning and other things that point to him being God.

Only if you look at it from one viewpoint. It's made clear in Scripture that we are looked at as his children, not slaves. Humans would die for their children, granted not all would, so why is it unbelievable that the one who molded us would?

man, its almost like people can read scripture and get different things from it...

Originally posted by juggerman
Jesus says several times that He and God are one, that He is God, that He was there at the beginning and other things that point to him being God.

Only if you look at it from one viewpoint. It's made clear in Scripture that we are looked at as his children, not slaves. Humans would die for their children, granted not all would, so why is it unbelievable that the one who molded us would?

Yes and Paul's viewpoint was that we are either slaves to Satan or slaves to God.

Thanks for showing us your inflated ego though.

God died for you. How droll.

As to why is it unbelievable that the one who molded us would be that stupid?

Would you be stupid enough to condemn someone knowing you would have to kill yourself because of your judgement?

I cannot see even believers being that retarded but it is hard to say how deep into fantasy you are.

Regards
DL

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Except when he is, brobeans.

Originally posted by Greatest I am
Yes and Paul's viewpoint was that we are either slaves to Satan or slaves to God.

Thanks for showing us your inflated ego though.

God died for you. How droll.

As to why is it unbelievable that the one who molded us would be that stupid?

Would you be stupid enough to condemn someone knowing you would have to kill yourself because of your judgement?

I cannot see even believers being that retarded but it is hard to say how deep into fantasy you are.

Regards
DL

Good points. Just become Mormons and that problem is solved (Jesus is actually a separate and distinct being from God the Father).

YHWH is not Elohim: Elohim is the father and Yahweh is the son.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Good points. Just become Mormons and that problem is solved (Jesus is actually a separate and distinct being from God the Father).

YHWH is not Elohim: Elohim is the father and Yahweh is the son.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Good points. Just become Mormons and that problem is solved (Jesus is actually a separate and distinct being from God the Father).

YHWH is not Elohim: Elohim is the father and Yahweh is the son.

And snakes and donkeys can talk human to those who have lost their minds and thinking ability to fantasy, miracles and magic.

Regards
DL

Originally posted by Greatest I am
Yes and Paul's viewpoint was that we are either slaves to Satan or slaves to God.

Thanks for showing us your inflated ego though.

God died for you. How droll.

As to why is it unbelievable that the one who molded us would be that stupid?

Would you be stupid enough to condemn someone knowing you would have to kill yourself because of your judgement?

I cannot see even believers being that retarded but it is hard to say how deep into fantasy you are.

Regards
DL

Doesn't make it so. "Slave" can easily be meant as "follows the will of" so you follow the will of Satan or God.

Not at all.

If you say so

Your POV

My children? I could see it

Guess you're just too close minded. It's ok tho

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I wasn't making a point, I was being a contrarian, brobeans. estahuh

Every since inimalist/Oliver North called me a contrarian, everybody is using that word like it is going out of style. uhuh

Originally posted by Greatest I am
And snakes and donkeys can talk human to those who have lost their minds and thinking ability to fantasy, miracles and magic.

Regards
DL

I was thinking more along the lines of spiritual telepathy. Their spirits talked but the creatures lacked the physical ability to talk.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Every since inimalist/Oliver North called me a contrarian, everybody is using that word like it is going out of style. uhuh

I was thinking more along the lines of spiritual telepathy. Their spirits talked but the creatures lacked the physical ability to talk.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Except when he is, brobeans.

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