If God knew that Satan would rebel and Adam and Eve would sin, why did He create?

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Omega Vision Face Flowed Into Her Eyes

Originally posted by Mindset
So never.

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Detective, you're reckless and arrogant.

But goddamnit do you get results. uhuh

Greatest I am Senior Member

Originally posted by dadudemon
Every since inimalist/Oliver North called me a contrarian, everybody is using that word like it is going out of style. uhuh

I was thinking more along the lines of spiritual telepathy. Their spirits talked but the creatures lacked the physical ability to talk.

I am a firm believer in telepathy, having done it twice only in my long life.

Strange that you would think that man would take advice from lower life forms.

Later Dr. Dolittle.

Regards
DL

dadudemon Senior Member

Originally posted by Greatest I am
I am a firm believer in telepathy, having done it twice only in my long life.

Strange that you would think that man would take advice from lower life forms.

Later Dr. Dolittle.

Regards
DL

If you known telepathy can be done, then why would it be a stretch that the spirit of an animal, which should be transcendent of corporeal consciousness, would lack the ability to convey thoughts and feelings about an mean pet owner? In the story, the donkey could see the angel blocking the path but the prophet could not due to his unrighteousness. It wasn't until the donkey could convey it's thoughts/feelings regarding this situation that the prophet humbled himself and could see the angel blocking the path.

Since I believe the bible to be full of errors, allegory, and even falsehoods, it is not a stretch for me to believe that this story, over time, became one of the donkey actually talking to that prophet rather than what seems more realistic: the donkey was able to convey its thoughts and feelings, via it's spirit to the prophets spirits, through some sort of spiritual telepathy (the same way the Holy Ghost talks to our spirits).

Of course, you seem more like a troll than serious but I like to have serious discussions every now and again.

Regards,
SMD

Greatest I am Senior Member

Originally posted by dadudemon
If you known telepathy can be done, then why would it be a stretch that the spirit of an animal, which should be transcendent of corporeal consciousness, would lack the ability to convey thoughts and feelings about an mean pet owner? In the story, the donkey could see the angel blocking the path but the prophet could not due to his unrighteousness. It wasn't until the donkey could convey it's thoughts/feelings regarding this situation that the prophet humbled himself and could see the angel blocking the path.

Since I believe the bible to be full of errors, allegory, and even falsehoods, it is not a stretch for me to believe that this story, over time, became one of the donkey actually talking to that prophet rather than what seems more realistic: the donkey was able to convey its thoughts and feelings, via it's spirit to the prophets spirits, through some sort of spiritual telepathy (the same way the Holy Ghost talks to our spirits).

Of course, you seem more like a troll than serious but I like to have serious discussions every now and again.

Regards,
SMD

So do I. Based on some kind of reality as we can no longer know what some allegories were supposed to tell us.

You seem to think that the Holy Ghost is somewhere out there. Not so says Jesus so if you want to get serious, watch and listen and let's talk serious about something that can become real for you and something that has already shown it's reality to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdSVl_HOo8Y

Regards
DL

dadudemon Senior Member

Originally posted by Greatest I am
So do I. Based on some kind of reality as we can no longer know what some allegories were supposed to tell us.

You seem to think that the Holy Ghost is somewhere out there. Not so says Jesus so if you want to get serious, watch and listen and let's talk serious about something that can become real for you and something that has already shown it's reality to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdSVl_HOo8Y

Regards
DL

Fail: Jesus said he had to leave so the Holy Ghost could testify of the things He said. If the Holy Ghost were not real, why would Jesus have to leave for it to testify?

Regards,
SMD

Greatest I am Senior Member

Originally posted by dadudemon
Fail: Jesus said he had to leave so the Holy Ghost could testify of the things He said. If the Holy Ghost were not real, why would Jesus have to leave for it to testify?

Regards,
SMD

So much for your monotheistic three headed one God view.

I talk reality and you talk fantasy. Sigh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VsN3IG1HtQ

Regards
DL

Okieshowedem Member

The best way to answer this question is to start out with finding out who God is.

When you understand that God is Satan then you have something to work with.
Don't get mad at me for telling you the truth.
It is you lying religion that has deceived you.
Get your Bible and read 2 Cor.4:4 for yourself.
The Hebrew prophets and all the apostles of the Hebrew Messiah warned you that Satan would deceived the whole world.
What part of Rev.12:9 is it that you don't believe?
If you think it is strange that you never heard this before don't stop now
keep searching for the truth and you too can find out just how smart Satan really is.

Here is a great place to start.

http://www.yahweh.com/pdf/Booklet_Lord-God.pdf

May the Spirit that is Holy the same Spirit that inspired the Hebrew prophets and apostles to write to us and warn us of these days You and I are living in bless your understanding in your search for truth.

Okie

Shakyamunison Nam Myoho Renge Kyo

It seems a little egotistical to think we live in the prophesied times.

Greatest I am Senior Member

It seems insanely egotistical to think that a God would die for any of the trillions he can create.

Only a really deluded ego will have such self-aggrandizing notions.

Regards
DL

Greatest I am Senior Member

Re: The best way to answer this question is to start out with finding out who God is.

Originally posted by Okieshowedem
When you understand that God is Satan then you have something to work with.
Don't get mad at me for telling you the truth.
It is you lying religion that has deceived you.
Get your Bible and read 2 Cor.4:4 for yourself.
The Hebrew prophets and all the apostles of the Hebrew Messiah warned you that Satan would deceived the whole world.
What part of Rev.12:9 is it that you don't believe?
If you think it is strange that you never heard this before don't stop now
keep searching for the truth and you too can find out just how smart Satan really is.

Here is a great place to start.

http://www.yahweh.com/pdf/Booklet_Lord-God.pdf

May the Spirit that is Holy the same Spirit that inspired the Hebrew prophets and apostles to write to us and warn us of these days You and I are living in bless your understanding in your search for truth.

Okie

You know that Baal is a male God and that the real God is androgynous. Right?

Regards
DL

Astner The Ghost Who Walks

Re: Re: The best way to answer this question is to start out with finding out who God is.

Originally posted by Greatest I am
and that the real God is androgynous. Right?

No. God created the man—not the woman—in his image, and he's also referred to as the father, son, and spirit, all written with masculine connotations.

TheGodKiller True Killer

^Unless one wants to count Hebrew scripture which says that Lilith was created alongside Adam.

Just throwing that out.

Astner The Ghost Who Walks

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
^Unless one wants to count Hebrew scripture which says that Lilith was created alongside Adam.

Just throwing that out.


That was in the first chapter of Genesis in which he didn't create jack shit in his own image, in the second chapter he created man in his own image.

TheGodKiller True Killer

^Either you're confusing this with another biblical myth, or you're not getting what I am saying.

Lilith was the precursor to Eve. She was made from the same earth and at the same time as Adam, the first man.

From what I know, Adam was never recreated a second time all over again in God's image. Unless you got proof stating otherwise?

Astner The Ghost Who Walks

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
^Either you're confusing this with another biblical myth, or you're not getting what I am saying.

Lilith was the precursor to Eve. She was made from the same earth and at the same time as Adam, the first man.

From what I know, Adam was never recreated a second time all over again in God's image. Unless you got proof stating otherwise?


No. In the first chapter of Genesis God created the universe and ended his creation by creating man and woman.

In the second chapter of Genisis we learn that there's no man, so God creates man (again?) in his own image.

Greatest I am Senior Member

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
^Either you're confusing this with another biblical myth, or you're not getting what I am saying.

Lilith was the precursor to Eve. She was made from the same earth and at the same time as Adam, the first man.

From what I know, Adam was never recreated a second time all over again in God's image. Unless you got proof stating otherwise?

Now you know that Christians do not like to talk of Lilith. It reminds them that they have usurped the Jewish God and it shames them.

They also do not like that Jews had a much healthier view of Eden than Christians have adopted.

http://www.mrrena.com/misc/judaism2.php

Regards
DL

Greatest I am Senior Member

Originally posted by Astner
No. In the first chapter of Genesis God created the universe and ended his creation by creating man and woman.

In the second chapter of Genisis we learn that there's no man, so God creates man (again?) in his own image.

Check this at about the 9.5 min. mark.

Your view works if you want to call Eve, --- Adam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TndLzFZI9A

It would not hurt you to view it all and expand your views.

Regards
DL

Shakyamunison Nam Myoho Renge Kyo

Originally posted by Greatest I am
It seems insanely egotistical to think that a God would die for any of the trillions he can create.

Only a really deluded ego will have such self-aggrandizing notions.

Regards
DL


The god of the bible, is no different than the Egyptian gods before it. However, I don't think that has anything to do with God.

TheGodKiller True Killer

Originally posted by Astner
No. In the first chapter of Genesis God created the universe and ended his creation by creating man and woman.

In the second chapter of Genisis we learn that there's no man, so God creates man (again?) in his own image.


You're either misinterpreting the original Hebrew myth, or just confusing it with something else.

God created Adam and Lilith at the same time from the same earth. When Lilith refused to be subservient to Adam and left, God replaced her by creating Eve from Adam's rib.

Astner The Ghost Who Walks

No, Lilith isn't mentioned in the first chapter of Gensis in the Bereishit.