Is Exile the most powerful jedi

Started by Incanus7 pages

Dude, he said the sith werre the greatest jedi killers. I mean, you guys are going overboard, dude.

Actually he claimed the Mandalorians were the greatest jedi killers bar the sith, if this makes any kind of sense or has any backing to it(it doesn't).

Your talking about the Vong arnt you. of that era the Mandalorians WERE some of the greatest jedi killers. I fyou include the Vong then no they wernt.

You're missing the point. He called them the greatest jedi killers aside from the sith, which begs proof which he doesn't have, nor has attempted to introduce into his shit storm of an argument.

Yeah, your right actually. I just think the Vong killed as many............ But look at the Basilisk war droid wookiee page i think you may see a group of Revanchists being killed by one, i saw one on the Revanchists page.........

I don't think Incanus is being foreal.

Mandalorians are Jedi killers, so are other groups. Are they the greatest next to the sith? Maybe, maybe not. I would think the Vong were much better. But either way, I'm not debating this so it's not my job to prove it.

It just occurred to me that Nephys is getting all of his information from star wars wikipedia entry of Jedi Exile. How sad.

you mean wookieepedia or wikipedia?

if its wookieepedia it can actually be accurate, but not wikipedia, it is that, then bye bye Nephys, you lose.

Originally posted by Incanus
you mean wookieepedia or wikipedia?

if its wookieepedia it can actually be accurate, but not wikipedia, it is that, then bye bye Nephys, you lose.

starwars.wikia.com

Neither sources are considered canon, nor valid in these debates, but he's using those sources verbatim.

well, wookieepedia is actually just an info thing, you cant edit it, and it has both canon(its first) and non canon, and non canon is listed as being such.

Originally posted by Incanus
well, wookieepedia is actually just an info thing, you cant edit it, and it has both canon(its first) and non canon, and non canon is listed as being such.

You can edit it actually, i've edited a couple of articles on my account.

I never learn to quit while I'm ahead? You're right.

No, you never learn after I've kicked your ass.

Which sith assassin's was Kreia talking about exactly?

The ones that come from Candyland and attack you with their genitals.

Or maybe the only ones found in the game, those of the Sith Triumvirate.

And you just said that the stronger their prey is, the deadlier they become. You then decided to interpret that to mean that the Exile is fighting warriors of similar strength.

Fair enough, that was a poor step of logic, I'll admit, but considering they've eliminated the jedi order, they are hardly push-overs. And it is stated in a loading screen that the Triumvirate

Go ahead and show us this, without introducing irrelevant feats and gameplay mechanics.

She cannonally knew 3 lightsaber forms as well as one advanced force form, she trained with Master Kavar, the battlemaster of the order, she learned 3 more advanced forms from the Jedi masters, She survived through fighting on the front lines of the war, something no unskilled jedi could do, and Canderous says shes as skilled as Revan.


How rofl?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Kep9mUEfxA&feature=related

'all the death you've caused to get here. You feed on it and grow stronger'.

'You must have noticed as you've fought across all these planets, killing hundreds-only to become more and more powerful.'

'what if other jedi..... emerged as you did. What if there was a crucible that trained such jedi to consume and kill'

Once again, nothing indicates the Exile is stronger than Traya

ugh3. Except y'know, her defeating her.

and what do you mean "immediately"? You have no idea how long the fight lasted.

I mean that she faced Traya right after Sion (after he claims she could be better than her), she certainly didn't sit there for a few years training.

Unfounded and foolish claim? Oh wait, I showed the video that directly contradicted your claims.

Quote the part that contradicts me. Just try it. Just put one shred of evidence behind that sponge you call an argument.


He puts her in the same category as Revan, go ahead and explain how that means she's a match for him.

"I thought that Revan was a singular Jedi,"- claiming that Revan is on a level above other jedi. "but now there's you [Exile]."- claiming that the Exile is also on that level. Being on the same level means they are comparable in strength and ability. I seriously don't know why I'm having to explain it to you.

Actually you DO choose them. Have you played KOTOR 2?

No you don't. Heck, even my consular/Sith Lord had those lightsaber forms. Even my guardian/weapons master had that force form. YOU ALWAYS HAVE THOSE FORMS. Traya directly says, 'in time more (forms) will come back to you.' You remember those forms. I suggest you go back and re-play the game because your ignorance of it is astonishing.

No, it really doesn't.

[DS] (entire argument, notice, no proof or logic) Yes it does [/DS]

Greatest Jedi killers? Rofl

Of their era bar the sith. Care to offer an alternative?

Once again, you've been embarrassed so now you're trying to save face. I understand.

Of course you do, you do it enough. Sadly, this isn't what I'm doing though.

Except when I claim to win, I usually have. But please, continue.

To own you? I will.

Oh, so there's only ONE force drain?

Correct.

How about Nihilus' force drain which has no such properties and yet rendered Traya useless and "stripped of the force" temporarily?

It was a cinematic, different from usual gamplay.

Already addressed.

Poorly.


Yes, keep on listing their skills, which are irrelevant until they face actual Jedi, and then you have to gauge the power of the Jedi.

Lol, double standard. You claim the featless Mandalore is impressive yet claim these characters with feats are unquantifiable. Rofl.

There's nothing to "try" here, because you haven't shown anything that puts the Exile on Revan's level.

You haven't shown anything. I guess that means I'm in the lead huh?

denial and self ownage.

Baseless claims and speculation.


Thanks Faunus jr, except you have to win to mimic him.

🤨 But I have won.

You're an idiot.

I am rubber you are glue, it bounces off me and sticks to you.


You're an idiot x2

A pathetic attempt to steer focus away from the fact that you can't refute my arguments. Nice going there sport.

Originally posted by Nephthys
No, you never learn after I've kicked your ass.

And the denial is just precious. Make sure to convince yourself as much as possible so you don't look like a total moron..

She cannonally knew 3 lightsaber forms as well as one advanced force form, she trained with Master Kavar, the battlemaster of the order, she learned 3 more advanced forms from the Jedi masters, She survived through fighting on the front lines of the war, something no unskilled jedi could do, and Canderous says shes as skilled as Revan.

I'm not going to list the random logical fallacies for you. But the argument wasn't whether the exile was unskilled or not, so I don't know why you're bringing it up. And no, Canderous put her in the same category in terms of what, fighting abilities? That hardly puts her on par with Revan in force knowledge, connection, skills, etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Kep9mUEfxA&feature=related

'all the death you've caused to get here. You feed on it and grow stronger'.

'You must have noticed as you've fought across all these planets, [b]killing hundreds-only to become more and more powerful.'

'what if other jedi..... emerged as you did. What if there was a crucible that trained such jedi to consume and kill'


Ok...?

ugh3. Except y'know, her defeating her.

Circumstances. Keep arguing a losing point though.

I mean that she faced Traya right after Sion (after he claims she could be better than her), she certainly didn't sit there for a few years training.

Actually you claimed that she was better than Traya because she defeated her.

Quote the part that contradicts me. Just try it. Just put one shred of evidence behind that sponge you call an argument.

This sponge of an argument is kicking your ass. The fact that no matter what you say to Traya, she wants the Exile to kill her, or she'll kill the exile. There's nothing indicating Traya puts up a fair fight because if she had, the Exile would cease to exist.

"I thought that Revan was a singular Jedi,"- claiming that Revan is on a level above other jedi. "but now there's you [Exile]."- claiming that the Exile is also on that level. Being on the same level means they are comparable in strength and ability. I seriously don't know why I'm having to explain it to you.

Because your deducing skills are borderline retarded.

No you don't. Heck, even my consular/Sith Lord had those lightsaber forms. Even my guardian/weapons master had that force form. YOU ALWAYS HAVE THOSE FORMS. Traya directly says, 'in time more (forms) will come back to you.' You remember those forms. I suggest you go back and re-play the game because your ignorance of it is astonishing.

I have. Once I power up, I get more forms. Yay!

[DS] (entire argument, notice, no proof or logic) Yes it does [/DS]

Poor Nephthys, just because I refute your garbage heap of text doesn't mean I don't have an argument.

Of their era bar the sith. Care to offer an alternative?

Oh it's of their era now. You never cease to amaze me every time you change something and then can't prove it.

Of course you do, you do it enough. Sadly, this isn't what I'm doing though.

Yes, you're getting owned, and you're making up for your ignorance with more denial.

Lol, double standard. You claim the featless Mandalore is impressive yet claim these characters with feats are unquantifiable. Rofl.

Where did I claim this? Do you even know what a double standard is?

You haven't shown anything. I guess that means I'm in the lead huh?

No, it means you're getting your ass kicked and you don't know how to deal with it.

🤨 But I have won.

Not according to reality.

A pathetic attempt to steer focus away from the fact that you can't refute my arguments. Nice going there sport. [/B]

Once again, you have no arguments and basically everything you've tried to introduce has been refuted. Owned again. Move along.

Originally posted by Exodus
The ones that come from Candyland and attack you with their genitals.

My favorite kind.

And the denial is just precious. Make sure to convince yourself as much as possible so you don't look like a total moron..

Denial? What, pray tell, am I denying? If your going to insult me or belittle me, at least put some effort into it.


I'm not going to list the random logical fallacies for you. But the argument wasn't whether the exile was unskilled or not, so I don't know why you're bringing it up.

Lol, try to keep up with the argument sexy. The initial argument was started when I pulled out the quote about the Exile being strong in the force. Instead of argue it, you claimed that despite this, she has no skill or mastery. And so I've proven after that that she does have those two, which would elevate her from your laughable assertion of her being, 'just average' to being (as you put it) 'exceptional'.

And no, Canderous put her in the same category in terms of what, fighting abilities? That hardly puts her on par with Revan in force knowledge,

The darkside, which is all Revan can be proven to have advanced knowledge of, gains nothing from force knowledge, so that's pretty irrelevent. It is also impossible to quantify Revans knowledge, making it pointless to bring up.

connection, skills, etc.

Connection? Wut?

And technically speaking, the Exile has more skills than Revan, actually canonally knowing lightsaber forms and advanced force forms.

Ok...?

Lagging again? I'll help. You wanted to know what bearing the Exiles ability to grow off of death would have, so I posted evidence that it has vastly increased her power, perhaps even being the reason she is 'stronger than ever' in the force. That baldy states she has feed off the death of 'hundreds', further demonstrates the effect of that power, effectively stopping you from belittling its results.

Circumstances. Keep arguing a losing point though.

There are no 'circumstances' except those in your mind. It was a strict, no-holding-back fight to the death for supremacy between master and student, explicitly stated to be as such. You stating otherwise would be like me saying Malak only lost to Revan because he was holding back on his old friend- Moronic.

Actually you claimed that she was better than Traya because she defeated her.

I know I did. Whats your point?

This sponge of an argument is kicking your ass. The fact is that no matter what you say to Traya, she wants the Exile to kill her, or she'll kill the exile.

Exactly. If the Exile cannot kill her she will kill the Exile. I don't know why your arguing this, she explicitely says after that her not going all out would make the entire thing pointless, just so much air and violence.

Because your deducing skills are borderline retarded.

Maybe next time you should actually argue the point, instead of bashing your clear superior. It would be a shame to have to report you.

I have. Once I power up, I get more forms. Yay!

Exactly, through the course of the game the Exile remembers forms which she had forgotten, as Traya states.


Poor Nephthys, just because I refute your garbage heap of text doesn't mean I don't have an argument

'Refute'? You haven't refuted anything. Saying 'No, it really doesn't.' isn't refuring anything, its giving an opinion. And your opinion isn't fact.


Oh it's of their era now. You never cease to amaze me every time you change something and then can't prove it.

'Every time'? Name one position I've changed over the course of the argument. And wasn't the mandalorians actually named as such in a source? Probably in a Traviss novel.


Yes, you're getting owned, and you're making up for your ignorance with more denial.

What am I denying? That I'm losing? No, that can't possibly be it. It must be something I'm simply too intelligent to understand your lowbrow attempts at humour.

Where did I claim this? Do you even know what a double standard is?

In the other thread. You claimed that Revan was impressive becuase 'Yet Mandalore is always their greatest warrior, which Revan was shown to defeat, while the Exile wasn't.' Not only are you making a baseless assumption (One mandalore simply found the mask and claimed to be mandalore, so it isn't always the strongest. Heck for all you know, he could have just given them all great head 😉 ), but you are committing a double standard by ignoring the quantifiable skills of the Handmaidens.


No, it means you're getting your ass kicked and you don't know how to deal with it.

Not according to reality.

Once again, you have no arguments and basically everything you've tried to introduce has been refuted. Owned again. Move along.

Please, since this argument began you haven't 'refuted' much at all. You've insulted me, mad baseless claims and pasted them off as fact and ignored any point you can't defeat (not even with your patented 'fingers-in-ears-I-know-I'm-wrong-but-I'll-keep-pretending-I'm-not technique). Seriously, just admit your wrong, you've already conceded most of my points, considering you aren't arguing them any more. I doubt anyone could think less of you after that disaster with Nai, so maybe you should just bow out quietly.

My favorite kind.

Mine too, but probably for different reasons than yours.

Nephtys, Dr McBeefingtoon, your both wrong. Revan wwon while you were arguing when he chopped off the Exiles head. Argument, OVER.

Originally posted by Eminence
You're annoying.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Denial? What, pray tell, am I denying? If your going to insult me or belittle me, at least put some effort into it.

Lol, try to keep up with the argument sexy. The initial argument was started when I pulled out the quote about the Exile being strong in the force. Instead of argue it, you claimed that despite this, she has no skill or mastery. And so I've proven after that that she does have those two, which would elevate her from your laughable assertion of her being, 'just average' to being (as you put it) 'exceptional'.

The darkside, which is all Revan can be proven to have advanced knowledge of, gains nothing from force knowledge, so that's pretty irrelevent. It is also impossible to quantify Revans knowledge, making it pointless to bring up.

Connection? Wut?

And technically speaking, the Exile has more skills than Revan, actually canonally knowing lightsaber forms and advanced force forms.

Lagging again? I'll help. You wanted to know what bearing the Exiles ability to grow off of death would have, so I posted evidence that it has vastly increased her power, perhaps even being the reason she is 'stronger than ever' in the force. That baldy states she has feed off the death of 'hundreds', further demonstrates the effect of that power, effectively stopping you from belittling its results.

There are no 'circumstances' except those in your mind. It was a strict, no-holding-back fight to the death for supremacy between master and student, explicitly stated to be as such. You stating otherwise would be like me saying Malak only lost to Revan because he was holding back on his old friend- Moronic.

I know I did. Whats your point?

Exactly. If the Exile cannot kill her she will kill the Exile. I don't know why your arguing this, she explicitely says after that her not going all out would make the entire thing pointless, just so much air and violence.

Maybe next time you should actually argue the point, instead of bashing your clear superior. It would be a shame to have to report you.

Exactly, through the course of the game the Exile remembers forms which she had forgotten, as Traya states.

'Refute'? You haven't refuted anything. Saying 'No, it really doesn't.' isn't refuring anything, its giving an opinion. And your opinion isn't fact.

'Every time'? Name one position I've changed over the course of the argument. And wasn't the mandalorians actually named as such in a source? Probably in a Traviss novel.

What am I denying? That I'm losing? No, that can't possibly be it. It must be something I'm simply too intelligent to understand your lowbrow attempts at humour.

In the other thread. You claimed that Revan was impressive becuase 'Yet Mandalore is always their greatest warrior, which Revan was shown to defeat, while the Exile wasn't.' Not only are you making a baseless assumption (One mandalore simply found the mask and claimed to be mandalore, so it isn't always the strongest. Heck for all you know, he could have just given them all great head 😉 ), but you are committing a double standard by ignoring the quantifiable skills of the Handmaidens.

Please, since this argument began you haven't 'refuted' much at all. You've insulted me, mad baseless claims and pasted them off as fact and ignored any point you can't defeat (not even with your patented 'fingers-in-ears-I-know-I'm-wrong-but-I'll-keep-pretending-I'm-not technique). Seriously, just admit your wrong, you've already conceded most of my points, considering you aren't arguing them any more. I doubt anyone could think less of you after that disaster with Nai, so maybe you should just bow out quietly.

Mine too, but probably for different reasons than yours.

So what you've done is offered nothing resembling an argument, and when faced with defeat, you follow the lead of the likes of Nai and Faunus in regards to their sarcasm. The only difference is that they do it within a victory, while you're doing it as a last resort to concession.

Guys, just stop arguing, we all know Revan would pwn her ass, they could only have their power stated and killed 1 sith each, and Revan would still pwn her.