Is exile really more powerful than Nihilus

Originally posted by Eminence

This isn't much of an argument. Anakin was "the key" to defeating Mace Windu, he was later "the key" to defeating his own master, and Han Solo was "the key" contributor to the final demise of Palpatine. As you can see, that sort of logic doesn't fly.

That said, your overall argument - if I'm reading it right - has more merit than DS's.

But your examples aren't the same. The Exile and Nihilus were engaged in mortal combat. Anakin and Solo were not in combat with Windu and Palpatine respectively. Regardless, it counts as an accomplishment.

Originally posted by Incanus
Dude, she said just being around him would corrupt her. Which means, obviously, he has the power to corrupt those around him, or he would talk ALOT, and i dont see that happening.

No, the Faunus is correct. It's not because he can corrupt her that he can corrupt anyone around him.

Originally posted by Slash_KMC
No, the Faunus is correct. It's not because he can corrupt her that he can corrupt anyone around him.

Originally posted by Allankles
Sion, Traya and Artris. And yes, I don't care about your circumstances argument because it could be applied to Revan as well, essentially a meaningless argument.

That's your argument, I don't have to acknowledge it, since it has no bearing on the canon which says she defeated Sion, Traya, Artris and was the major contributor in foiling Nihilus' plans in Onderon and Telos, her actions leading to his eventual demise.

Once again, like Nephyths, you aren't presenting anything different concerning relevant feats.

Originally posted by Allankles
But your examples aren't the same. The Exile and Nihilus were engaged in mortal combat. Anakin and Solo were not in combat with Windu and Palpatine respectively. Regardless, it counts as an accomplishment.

For the last time, NOT REGARDING 1 on 1 COMBAT.

Uhh, Nihilus was a hole in the force if i am right......... I didnt htink he was a wound because of his uber drain that kills a planet..........

Originally posted by Incanus
Uhh, Nihilus was a hole in the force if i am right......... I didnt htink he was a wound because of his uber drain that kills a planet..........

Nihilus was not a wound. as far as the analagy goes, the exile was a festering gangrenous wound with rotting flesh and yuck. When the lord of hunger tried to eat him, he ate this rotting flesh and promptly threw it back up. In his weekened "food poisoned" state, he was defeated by the exile and his companions.

Her* companions. But yes, pretty decent analogy there.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
What combat accomplishments? You mean being a general? Yea, Malak outranked her, while being in the front lines throughout the Mandalorian Wars.

Both were in the mando wars. If you need to bring up the Mando wars to make Malak look good what does that say about your argument and Malak?

No, I obviously wasn't talking about the Mando wars but her triumphs over Sion, Traya and Artris, as well as her actions against Nihilus and his forces.

And of course, her other accomplishments against the Exchange, Azkul Mercernaries, Vaklu loyalists etc She has a greater body of work than Malak, and has relevant feats (1-on-1 duels with Sith lords). Malak has almost nothing to compare.

And as I said, I don't care about your "circumstance" argument, since it goes against the evidence in the primary source.

Star Wars fans are one of the few fan groups that ignore the primary sources of their mythos. With you though it's mostly just about picking and choosing what you like & dismissing what you don't.

You'll site the Revan compliments in Kotor 1, but you'll put down the Exile compliments especially those that make direct comparisons to Revan (like Mandalore's).

Originally posted by Allankles
Both were in the mando wars. If you need to bring up the Mando wars to make Malak look good what does that say about your argument and Malak?

You'll site the Revan compliments in Kotor 1, but you'll put down the Exile compliments especially those that make direct comparisons to Revan (like Mandalore's).

Uhhh, Madalore the Preserver only made the comparison because the Exile was able to defeat some guys that were only regular soldiers in the Mandalorian Wars,(maybe) and they were nothing special. The true Mandalorian elites had died long before.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
Actually YOU brought up the Mandalorians.

I was talking about Mandalore, you brought up the Mando wars, there's a difference.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
Which, for the millionth time, say NOTHING about her personal combat abilities. You're like a broken record. This point is lost, find something else. .

Not much of an argument here, as she's defeated Sith Lords with fomidable combat abilities. One even employing three lightsabers to fight her. So again, Malak has nothing on the Exile.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
Great, non force users! 1 on 1 duels? You mean talking Sion to death? Or perhaps listening to Kreia preach telling you to kill her or she'll kill you? Once again, the Exile is outclassed and you haven't proven otherwise .

Kreia was stating the obvious, it was either kill or be killed - this is always the case in mortal combat.

However, what I meant was fighting three tk controlled lightsabers and prevailing. I meant fighting Sion and prevailing, as their encounter culminated in a battle. It's like arguing Revan never fought Malak because it happened in gameplay, a thoroughly pointless and senseless argument. Get real guy.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
My circumstance argument actually proves my overall argument.

See above. It doesn't prove anything as the Exile did indeed battle and prevail against powerful and dangerous dark Jedi.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
So basically you're admitting you don't have a leg to stand on, and can't make any kind of argument for the Exile in 2 years? As Faunus and Gideon say, I accept your concession.

I don't know what this has to do with anything? Your "arguments" are simply declarations, they don't become true simply because you say so.

Kreia was never shown to be taking it easy on the Exile as it would go against everything she believed. Her battle with the Exile was a culmination of her power, her experiences and her convictions half-assing the fight would be throwing away everything she's ever done.

Malachor 5 was essentially an end for both her and the Exile, a final battle, a final resolution to settle the ghosts of their past. How in the hell could Kreia half-ass it? It was a battle about truth, the truth of the Exile and Traya both. Remember how she says there's no great revaltation, no secret only you?

The apprentice would surpass the master or the master would kill the apprentice.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
I can run circles around you if we argue their accomplishments as it pertains to force abilities/knowledge/combat.

You couldn't because their accomplishments balance out. And Revan has no combat effective force abilities that warrant a discussion.

You seem to have misinterpreted Traya DM, she would never take it easy on the Exile. It goes against her teachings.

"You stole that struggle from them, cheapened it. If you care for others, then dispense with pity and sacrifice and recognize the value in letting them fight their own battles. And when they triumph, they will be even stronger for the victory."

Kreia would never let the Exile triumph without giving the student her best effort. To do otherwise would weaken her student, make a lie of their strength.

Originally posted by Allankles

Not much of an argument here, as she's defeated Sith Lords with fomidable combat abilities. One even employing three lightsabers to fight her. So again, Malak has nothing on the Exile.

Kreia was stating the obvious, it was either kill or be killed - this is always the case in mortal combat.

However, what I meant was fighting three tk controlled lightsabers and prevailing. I meant fighting Sion and prevailing, as their encounter culminated in a battle. It's like arguing Revan never fought Malak because it happened in gameplay, a thoroughly pointless and senseless argument. Get real guy.

See above. It doesn't prove anything as the Exile did indeed battle and prevail against powerful and dangerous dark Jedi.

I don't know what this has to do with anything? Your "arguments" are simply declarations, they don't become true simply because you say so.

Kreia was never shown to be taking it easy on the Exile as it would go against everything she believed. Her battle with the Exile was a culmination of her power, her experiences and her convictions half-assing the fight would be throwing away everything she's ever done.

You couldn't because their accomplishments balance out. And Revan has no combat effective force abilities that warrant a discussion. [/B]

Except the knowledge of Malachor V, Korriban, his patented force storm, grip, and other DS techniques. Sorry, the Exile doesn't come close.

Arguing from ignorance. Watch the video

Originally posted by Eminence
Oh, the irony.

Originally posted by Nephthys

Would make sense if you had a leg to stand on, it's unfortunate you're getting no support though. Kinda sad too.

Would make sense if you had a leg to stand on

😆 Stop, your killin' me!

Originally posted by Nephthys
😆 Stop, your killin' me!

Too bad. After embarrassing yourself arguing with Gideon I thought you would learn your lesson. Guess that's why nobody takes you seriously.

Too bad. After embarrassing yourself arguing with Gideon I thought you would learn your lesson. Guess that's why nobody takes you seriously.

I'm sorry, its just that you saying that despite that your entire stance rests on one misinterpreted phrase, it was just so f'ing funny.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm sorry, its just that you saying that despite that your entire stance rests on one misinterpreted phrase, it was just so f'ing funny.

What's funnier is you continually getting your ass kicked and yet coming back for more. I guess we need another Nebaris.

"Entire stance" ROFL