Dr McBeefingtonlol
Oh my mistake, I thought you were done blogging about your only e-conquest over me in the past year..Then again, my profile, while short, says everything anyone needs to know about my e-stalker🙂
Where was I "ignored and ridiculed"?
Also, lol @ "only victory." I win everything we argue. Always.
Literally.
What's funnier is you continually getting your ass kicked and yet coming back for more. I guess we need another Nebaris."Entire stance" ROFL
Well yeah, your entire point hinges on the meaning of 'kill me. If you do not, I will kill you'. Well, I guess you also have that Traya thought of her as beautiful. You choose to interpret that shes saying I really want you to kill me, full stop. Whereas its far, far more likely given (as Allankles post suggests), Traya's own words and personality (specifically, her entire philosophy of survival of the fittest), that she was talking about the tradition (as both she and the Exile mention) of it being master versus student, winner take all. The fact that you continually ignore the Fact that right after that quote she specifically says that herself not going all out would cheapen everything just makes it more humerous. Heres a few quotes that prove you wrong.
-"The apprentice must kill the master. If you do not, I will kill you. If I do not, then all you have achieved will be as nothing, as empty and and violent as malachor itself"-saying that if she doesn't go all out then everything will lose meaning
-"You stole that struggle from them, cheapened it. If you care for others, then dispense with pity and sacrifice and recognize the value in letting them fight their own battles. And when they triumph, they will be even stronger for the victory." -Her philosophy of survival of the fittest
-"I do not want your mercy, I want you to brake" - She's clearly the merciful type.
-"If so, then do it- for you have already failed me'- The Exile has already failed her, so why would she go easy on her.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Well yeah, your entire point hinges on the meaning of 'kill me. If you do not, I will kill you'. Well, I guess you also have that Traya thought of her as beautiful. You choose to interpret that shes saying I really want you to kill me, full stop. Whereas its far, far more likely given (as Allankles post suggests), Traya's own words and personality (specifically, her entire philosophy of survival of the fittest), that she was talking about the tradition (as both she and the Exile mention) of it being master versus student, winner take all. The fact that you continually ignore the [b]Fact that right after that quote she specifically says that herself not going all out would cheapen everything just makes it more humerous. Heres a few quotes that prove you wrong.
-"The apprentice must kill the master. If you do not, I will kill you. If I do not, then all you have achieved will be as nothing, as empty and and violent as malachor itself"-saying that if she doesn't go all out then everything will lose meaning-"You stole that struggle from them, cheapened it. If you care for others, then dispense with pity and sacrifice and recognize the value in letting them fight their own battles. And when they triumph, they will be even stronger for the victory." -Her philosophy of survival of the fittest
-"If so, then do it- for you have already failed me'- The Exile has already failed her, so why would she go easy on her. [/B]
Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm sorry, its just that you saying that despite that your entire stance rests on one misinterpreted phrase, it was just so f'ing funny.
This is true DM, your stance is dependant on misinterpreting one statement from Kreia, where she was basically stating the obvious outcome of all mortal combat.
Also, the Exile has relevant combat feats like dueling against 3 TK lightsabers, an immortal half-dead Sith not once but twice, defeating Atris in her dark side stronghold and being the key to Nihilus defeat.
Malak killed a couple of hapless Jedi and tortured Bastila, big whoop. If it were any other character with these meager showings vs Revan's zero showings, you'd be arguing for Revan. Nothing's changed.
Except she WANTED the Exile to win, because the Exile represented what SHE wanted, which was the death of the force.
And if the the Exile wins the Force will NEVER die. This was her one chance to poison the Force. She didn't represent that anyway, when Traya looked at her, she SAW the death of the Force, saw the destruction she could cause out of the Exile. What the Exile REPRESENTED was a little girl who got scared and hid from the Force, only to hug close to it again in desperation at the first sign of trouble. Someone who GLORIED in the Force.
GREAT! Which once again means little once you realize that she loved the Exile and called her her greatest student because she represented the death of the force.
Once again you ignore facts to fulfil some twisted ideal in your head. The fact that she called her that directly after battle, while talking about how the Exile'd just beat her? Nope, who cares. The fact that her whole personality and philosophy abhors mercy. A load of crap. What gets me is how you think she'd push this all aside becuase she 'loved' the Exile, or pass it off as a lie, and yet won't even think that this could work both ways. Touching, Love truly does conquer all.
Or maybe she told her she failed her so the Exile would go all out and not hold back? Once again, it's very debatable and there's no proof of Kreia going all out. You lose.
Err, what? Why would she need to say that when the Exile is clearly going to fight her anyway. Where if she's light side, Traya's a Sith Lord trying to kill the force, why the hell would she need to give her any more incentive than that?
Dr McBeefingtonI'm not bitching to anyone, cupcake, I'm telling you to prove up. I've heard you throw that around a lot in the past couple of weeks, and if it's so blatantly obvious that someone has "mocked," "ridiculed," and "ignored" me, I want proof. Especially when I have PMs that suggest something entirely different.
This happened when you were on your witchhunt trying to accuse of me being TDTD. Now I suspect you're going to do what you always do when you don't get your way, and that's ***** to everyone. I was instructed to ignore your ramblings and witchhunt.
AllanklesAgain, while I agree with parts of your broader argument, this simply doesn't fly. The Exile's role in that duel is uncertain; all we know for sure is that Nihilus froze the trio where they stood, then decided to "feed" on the Exile and screwed himself over in the process. If this is what you mean by being the "key" to the Sith Lord's demise, fine, but it isn't a relevant combat feat. Surviving a completely ambiguous duel against an individual who was torn down several notches as a result of a fluke isn't a relevant combat feat.
Also, the Exile has relevant combat feats like [...] being the key to Nihilus defeat.
Originally posted by Eminenceive showed you some of them on gideon's forum. There were a few more later that i deleted along with the entire box. You can either accept that your witch hunt doesn't work here or you can continue bitching. I know what was said so it makes no difference to me, sweetheart.
I'm not bitching to anyone, cupcake, I'm telling you to prove up. I've heard you throw that around a lot in the past couple of weeks, and if it's so blatantly obvious that someone has "mocked," "ridiculed," and "ignored" me, I want proof. Especially when I have PMs that suggest something entirely different.
Originally posted by Allankles
This is true DM, your stance is dependant on misinterpreting one statement from Kreia, where she was basically stating the obvious outcome of all mortal combat.
Also, the Exile has relevant combat feats like dueling against 3 TK lightsabers, an immortal half-dead Sith not once but twice, defeating Atris in her dark side stronghold and being the key to Nihilus defeat.
Malak killed a couple of hapless Jedi and tortured Bastila, big whoop. If it were any other character with these meager showings vs Revan's zero showings, you'd be arguing for Revan. Nothing's changed.
Once again, Malak has relevant combat feats. Revan's power is known to the extent where it can be argued against lesser individuals(Exile). Your arguments have been the same over 2 years and the outcome is no different.
Dr McBeefingtonThose were lame. Mine were way better.
ive showed you some of them on gideon's forum.
Dr McBeefingtonThat's convenient.
There were a few more later that i deleted along with the entire box.
Dr McBeefingtonDefine "bitching." I hope you don't define it the same way you define "obsessive," because, let's face it, last time you pulled that card it made you look like a
You can either accept that your witch hunt doesn't work here or you can continue bitching.
Dr McBeefingtonI owned you with cupcake. I win.
I know what was said so it makes no difference to me, sweetheart.
Originally posted by Eminence
Those were lame. Mine were way better.That's convenient.
Actually yes, my box is empty, I'm happy. No reason to lieDefine "bitching." I hope you don't define it the same way you define "obsessive," because, let's face it, last time you pulled that card it made you look like a
toolclownbig silly.
I owned you with cupcake. I win.
DS
Obsessive? You mean by spending lots and lots of your free time to attempt to prove I'm tdtd and failing miserably?
DSMy self esteem does tend to suffer when I "conquer" arrogant
Obsessive is bitching and moaning, and then bringing in reinforcements to overcompensate for self esteem issues.
DSThat could be arranged. Bet I'd win that one, too.
What are you going to do now, ask everyone if they think I'm tdtd?
DSExplain [the purported insecurity].
ROFL. Talk about insecure
DSThis just isn't your week.
Granted
Originally posted by Eminence
My self esteem does tend to suffer when I "conquer" arrogantsocksdouchebags via the internet and deprive them of what meager amounts of sex they were having.
That could be arranged. Bet I'd win that one, too.
his just isn't your week.
DSI have written testimony from you that says I deprived you of sex. And that your family was no longer speaking to you.
Or when you continue the same witch hunt that has failed time and time again. What you "deprived" me of is winning a star wars debate on the particular day. Congratulations.
DSWell, we could actually ask.
Yea, you'll get what, Janus and Nai? Wonderful.
$5000 says I get more people than you do.
DSExplain.
I bet you'll provide proof too! Oh wait
DSI haven't called you a sock in weeks at the least, possibly months. So... I win again.
Not when I get called cupcake. However, when someone tries to continually call me a sock, although unsuccessfully, I think my week has gone just fine.
Stop it, please.