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Some of Superman's super impressive stuff. Ramming a fist up the ass of a probe and flying around him. Notice how awesomely awesome his super speed his. It's freakin' super, he's flying around and punching the guy! and the guy like....is just standing there!! And it looks identical to the time when Wolverine punched Domina 20 times before she could do anything! Awesome, right?
Originally posted by TricksterPriest
I've been awake since 4:30am watching stage 16 of the 2009 Tour De France. I am very tired and about to sleep for a few hours. I only got about 2-3 hours sleep.So please, SHUT THE **** UP. uhuh
G'night.
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Originally posted by Kris Blaze
That's the full extent of your BRB knowledge? Impressive! It's been proved time and time again. In fact, I dare say Thor's speed feats at least matches the ones we see Superman bring. I'll do the list.- Catching bullets
- Repairing things fast
- Hitting several times in a blur.All of whom ROGUE complete with ridiculous ease during Claremont's run on x-men. This does not make someone capable of blitzing Thor.
Not equal to blitzing the omega beams, going fast enough to be invisible and creating air vacuums via said speed against the Elite. Not to mention totally owning his peers in Mongul and Doomsday.
It's fair to say Superman is on another tier with respect to combat speed.
Originally posted by Allankles
Not equal to blitzing the omega beams, going invisible and creating air vacuums against the Elite. Not to mention totally owning his peers in Mongul and Doomsday with speed.It's fair to say Superman is on another tier with respect to combat speed.
Let's see.
- Dodging beams fast, really cool. Not that impressive though, especially since ligthspeed seems to be their limit.
- That's great, for people who cannot perceive people going at superspeed.
- Okay....I guess that's not bad?
- Owning Mongul, those are my favourite. In one of them Superman gets off like 3 or 4 heatvision/punches or icebreath/kicks by the time Mongul has one. In the other he parries 4 of Mongul's punches, WHICH COMPLETELY WEARS OUT MONGUL. How are these impressive? Heat and cold barely affect Thor, he's not going to fight Superman barehanded and Mongul BARELY HAS ANY SPEED FEATS!
- Doomsday, yes. This is a good fight. He flies around doomsday and hits him a couple of times, before vibrating through his punches/flame breath. Just a couple of things though. Mjolnir will hit people even when they're intangible! And a fight with Doomsday does not in any way indicate superiority over Thor in speed!
Originally posted by carver9
thats still not saying that they cant keep up with him because honestly, they can.
They could to a point but when you can move fast enough to make air vacuums in moments and be invisible, you're in another bracket.
WW is the best gauge. Most feel she's faster than Thor not enough to blitz him but fast enough to land 2 to every 1 he lands. Superman has put to shame the speed of Hermes on at least two occasions, demonstrating he's a fair bit faster than a superhero with a speed god's abilities.
Again, neither BRB or Thor a speedblitzing the Elites or Doomsday.
Originally posted by Allankles
They could to a point but when you can move fast enough to make air vacuums in moments and be invisible, you're in another bracket.WW is the best gauge. Most feel she's faster than Thor not enough to blitz him but fast enough to land 2 to every 1 he lands. Superman has put to shame the speed of Hermes on at least two occasions, demonstrating he's a fair bit faster than a superhero with a speed god's abilities.
Again, neither BRB or Thor a speedblitzing the Elites or Doomsday.
Funny thing about Hermes, Thor caught him easily when he was trying a sneak attack.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Let's see.- Dodging beams fast, really cool. Not that impressive though, especially since ligthspeed seems to be their limit.
Instead of referencing wolverine and other totally unrelated people you can examine his entire body of work. Blitzing the omega beams demonstrates how fast he can propel his body since (unlike other energy attacks) they follow their target indefinitely until they land. So it shows that he can propel his body a lot quicker than what Thor and BRB can manage in a CQC situation.
Mongul is no different from Hulk and other top tier strong men who have tagged and fought top tiers across their companies.
The Elite don't have deficiency with speed perception, seeing as Superman wasn't visible. It wasn't that he left after images, he left nothing except an air vacuum from his speed trail which took out the magician through his shields.
IMO Team1 Has the more H2H combat accume imo. WIth the exception of supes. But each guy on team 1 is loves to use their melee combat. Also I think Thor is skyfather level now is that what the OP said? He doesn't have any real featsright unless im mistaken... on which thor this is.
But.. SS and SD are both high level energy users with great exp. And supes is just supes.
Most of the exotic shit SS might do in the fight Thor or BRB can combat and if Orion get shis astro harness can withstand alot.
What I don't like is the fact that I think SS can get defensive while juicing up Supes with plenty of sunligt energy even if he is fly around dodging. That would be a likily lead to victory.
A amped supes would crush Orion is they were even before and imo beat BRB equally but thor would be still tough. regardless I think After a long ****ing fight and Either Thor left standing and maybe SS and/or supes (i can see possible both living till the end) and Thos loses. 5.5 team 2
Originally posted by Allankles
Instead of referencing wolverine and other totally unrelated people you can examine his entire body of work. Blitzing the omega beams demonstrates how fast he can propel his body since (unlike other energy attacks) they follow their target indefinitely until they land. So it shows that he can propel his body a lot quicker than what Thor and BRB can manage in a CQC situation.Mongul is no different from Hulk and other top tier strong men who have tagged and fought top tiers across their companies.
The Elite don't have deficiency with speed perception, seeing as Superman wasn't visible. It wasn't that he left after images, he left nothing except an air vacuum from his speed trail which took out the magician through his shields.
😕 The omega beams isnt that fast.
Originally posted by Allankles
Instead of referencing wolverine and other totally unrelated people you can examine his entire body of work. Blitzing the omega beams demonstrates how fast he can propel his body since (unlike other energy attacks) they follow their target indefinitely until they land. So it shows that he can propel his body a lot quicker than what Thor and BRB can manage in a CQC situation.Mongul is no different from Hulk and other top tier strong men who have tagged and fought top tiers across their companies.
The Elite don't have deficiency with speed perception, seeing as Superman wasn't visible. It wasn't that he left after images, he left nothing except an air vacuum from his speed trail which took out the magician through his shields.
- Like I said, around lightspeed. How fast do you think Thor and BRB fly? Supersonic? speed of sound? Speed of turtle? 500 km/hour?
- Exactly, Mongul is no different. His durability is below Thor's, he has less feats, he is weaker and so on. Blitzing him does therefore not make Superman capable of blitzing Thor. Especially when he did not really Blitz Mongul, but parried his attacks.
- Okay, that's great. The elite are not Thor however, not even close. Nor do they have anyone with impressive Superspeed.
You failed to counter everything else.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Funny thing about Hermes, Thor caught him easily when he was trying a sneak attack.
Right, they guy who came barreling in with with a chariot? Not hard to extend out your hand and grab someone by the collar. And Thor is likely not faster either way, that was just timing.
Also no one said Thor doesn't have a measure of superspeed, he just can't propel his body as quickly as Superman. This should be obvious.
Originally posted by Allankles
Right, they guy who came barreling in with with a chariot? Not hard to extend out your hand and grab someone by the collar. And Thor is likely not faster either way, that was just timing.Also no one said Thor doesn't have a measure of superspeed, he just can't propel his body as quickly as Superman. This should be obvious.
Like I said, how fast do you think Thor moves then?
He didn't just grab him, he countered his speed. Hermes IS the god of speed.
Originally posted by carver9
😕 The omega beams isnt that fast.
Imagine Surfer shooting out a beam of the PC at Thor. Lets assume Thor dives out of the way of the oncoming beam. Following me so far? Now imagine if Surfer could bend and twist that beam to make it follow Thor, to ensure it strikes? Never ceasing until it struck him?
Imagine how much movement Thor would have to make to avoid such a beam? He's likely to get tagged after the first evasion, Thor doesn't accelerate his body like Superman.
Originally posted by Allankles
Imagine Surfer shooting out a beam of the PC at Thor. Lets assume Thor dives out of the way of the oncoming beam. Following me so far? Now imagine if Surfer could bend and twist that beam to make it follow Thor, to ensure it strikes? Never ceasing until it struck him?Imagine how much movement Thor would have to make to avoid such a beam? He's likely to get tagged after the first evasion, Thor doesn't accelerate his body like Superman.
Question.
Why would Thor fly around like an idiot, when he can raise his hammer and have it instantly absorbed into Mjolnir?
Originally posted by Allankles
He didn't counter him with speed. He turned quickly and grabbed him off his chariot, it's not like he was actually matching him.
Thor was flying.
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Question.Why would Thor fly around like an idiot, when he can raise his hammer and have it instantly absorbed into Mjolnir?
You're missing the point, which is that Thor wouldn't be able to dodge such a beam beyond the first evasion, because he doesn't have that kind of acceleration.
Thor was flying.
Yes but it was more about timing and reflexes, no one has denied Thor has a measure of superspeed, but the feat was more about a single reaction. It doesn't put his combat speed on Supes level.
