Thor/Beta ray bill/Orion vs Surfer/Star dust/Superman

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SS amps Superman to make it an easier fight for them. Team 2

that is true.

Didn't Busiek state that a lot of Superman's one-off abilities were going to be removed from continuity? Soul vision, T-Vo/Rao etc.

Originally posted by Ouallada
Didn't Busiek state that a lot of Superman's one-off abilities were going to be removed from continuity? Soul vision, T-Vo/Rao etc.

Torquasm Rao was not a one-time ability and since it's more like training, there's no reason why it would be retconned.

Orion's used the Astro Force to one-shot Superman (twice, I think.) BRB would trounce Stardust, yet again. Thor/Surfer is always a good match. Could go either way. But with his seeming upgrade in Annihilation I might give Surfer the small majority.

I'll take Team One for a majority barring no Surfer or Stardust amps for Superman. Team One has more raw power to work with.

Originally posted by Allankles
Torquasm Rao was not a one-time ability and since it's more like training, there's no reason why it would be retconned.

Probably not, but the Q&A session I read definitely spoke about T-vo not having a place in continuity, and T-vo has always been the more maligned of the two in any case. Out of curiosity, when was the last time T-Rao was specifically used on panel?

Allan doesn't know. He doesn't even read Superman. He likes reading Buster Bunny.

Originally posted by Ouallada
Didn't Busiek state that a lot of Superman's one-off abilities were going to be removed from continuity? Soul vision, T-Vo/Rao etc.

"soul vision" isn't a one off ability.

far as the thread goes, kris and allankles. put each other on ignore or be civil to each other. it's either that or get warnings.

Originally posted by Ouallada
Out of curiosity, when was the last time T-Rao was specifically used on panel?

I think its last appearance was in the Superman title back in 2001 or 2000.

And Eny, you were looking for an excuse to post one of your guilty pleasures, weren't you? 😉

Originally posted by Raoul
"soul vision" isn't a one off ability.

far as the thread goes, kris and allankles. put each other on ignore or be civil to each other. it's either that or get warnings.

I can't speak for Kris, but I personally have no problem with him.

Originally posted by Allankles
And Eny, you were looking for an excuse to post one of your guilty pleasures, weren't you? 😉

The only Guilty Pleasures I have are by Laurell K. Hamilton. 😛

Originally posted by Raoul
"soul vision" isn't a one off ability.

I had something more along the lines of being rarely used. In any case,

And, from my earlier question, does Superman still have "Soul Vision" a la Birthright?
Originally posted by Kurt Busiek
You asked two days ago, and I answered then. No, he doesn't, at least not as any sort of distinct ability involving things metaphysical, like souls.

Looks like that's gone for now. The take on the Torquasm disciplines is a little shadier. What Kurt stated was that they are likely to be removed from continuity, but that another writer could expand on them in the future. Basically not saying anything conclusive. In any case, T-Rao is pretty much fine in my book for a character like Superman, but it should be exclusive to Kryptonians (unlike the last time I saw it on panel, when Lois used it). T-vo is slightly out of character for Superman, on the other hand.

Originally posted by Enyalus
The only Guilty Pleasures I have are by Laurell K. Hamilton. 😛

Twilight fanbase 😘

Originally posted by Ouallada
I had something more along the lines of being rarely used. In any case,

Looks like that's gone for now. The take on the Torquasm disciplines is a little shadier. What Kurt stated was that they are likely to be removed from continuity, but that another writer could expand on them in the future. Basically not saying anything conclusive. In any case, T-Rao is pretty much fine in my book for a character like Superman, but it should be exclusive to Kryptonians (unlike the last time I saw it on panel, when Lois used it). T-vo is slightly out of character for Superman, on the other hand.

Twilight fanbase 😘

it isn't considered metaphysical, though. it's supposed to be simply another spectrum he can see in.

also, sadly, busiek doesn't write superman anymore. 🙁

Originally posted by Ouallada
Twilight fanbase 😘

Not even close. That's why Twilight gets filed under the 'Young Adult' section.

Team 1 wins.

I unno... Superman has beaten Thor, SS pwns BRB and Orion really won't be able to put down Stardust...

😉

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
I unno... Superman has beaten Thor, SS pwns BRB and Orion really won't be able to put down Stardust...

😉

Superman only beat Thor due to Thor's initial shock over the hammer nonsense. Thor always does better in rematches. Look at how much better he did against Gladiator and the Rulk the second time around.

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
I unno... Superman has beaten Thor, SS pwns BRB and Orion really won't be able to put down Stardust...

😉

That crossover shouldnt be brought up because in that case Ironman>Thor since he one shotted supes with a blast of his repulsor ray. Superman was a beast throughout that story though, he ran through everyone.