What if the Empire invaded the FOTJ era galaxy

Originally posted by Gideon
Precisely. I told you he'd lose; you're right, you win, I give up: they walk in and kill him.

Yoda and the rest of the Jedi were planning on doing it anyways, I hear, but Lucas had this jackass idea to pretend that it would be difficult to kill the galaxy's most powerful man.

Realistically, anyone could do it.

You're a fvcking moron. HWKN clearly stated that Luke would be capable of fooling any sort of security system the Empire could offer. Can it be any clearer for you?

Then why did you insult me and all when I was right?

And you're using sarcasm here. Yoda and Obi Wan alone didn't have the abilities to sneak past the guards, nor have they been shown to know Battle Meld. In this scenario, we have 12 Jedi Masters, LUKE SKYWALKER being among them, all using Battle Meld. NJO Luke using Battle Meld with Jaina and Jacen was extremely powerful. Now we have Fate of the Jedi Luke, who is even more powerful, using Battle Meld with 11 other Jedi Masters. Sidious loses. Badly.

What "security systems" can detect Luke if he short circuits them? And even if they do detect them, the NJO team can just speed rush to Sidious before troops can arrive.

HWKN
Then why did you insult me and all when I was right?

Because I was an idiot? Why else? I told you, I simply operated under the assumption that the most powerful Sith Lord in history (who is simultaneously the galaxy's most powerful political and military authority, not to mention a brilliant strategist) would have all-encompassing and redundant security measures against Force-users.

HWKN
And you're using sarcasm here. Yoda and Obi Wan alone didn't have the abilities to sneak past the guards, nor have they been shown to know Battle Meld. In this scenario, we have 12 Jedi Masters, LUKE SKYWALKER being among them, all using Battle Meld. NJO Luke using Battle Meld with Jaina and Jacen was extremely powerful. Now we have Fate of the Jedi Luke, who is even more powerful, using Battle Meld with 11 other Jedi Masters. Sidious loses. Badly.

Yeah, I apologize. I don't know what I was thinking.... I thought this thread was about the Empire versus the Fate of the Jedi-era galaxy, not RotJ Sidious versus FotJ Luke Skywalker and friends.

You're a fvcking moron. HWKN clearly stated that Luke would be capable of fooling any sort of security system the Empire could offer. Can it be any clearer for you?

***** please. How could a simpleton like you hope to understand the total facts which HE WHO KNOWS ALL!!!!!!! posits from his 12-inch silver tongue? Now get back in the kitchen 'fore he slaps you back down with LOGIC!!!! once more.

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***** please. How could a simpleton like you hope to understand the total facts which HE WHO KNOWS ALL!!!!!!! posits from his 12-inch silver tongue? Now get back in the kitchen 'fore he slaps you back down with LOGIC!!!! once more.

Indeed, my friend.... indeed.

While you're there, I love a little mustard on my sandwich.

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Sounds dirty...

Magically delicious.... naughty

Isn't that Lucky Charms?

Originally posted by Gideon
Because I was an idiot? Why else? I told you, I simply operated under the assumption that the most powerful Sith Lord in history (who is simultaneously the galaxy's most powerful political and military authority, not to mention a brilliant strategist) would have all-encompassing and redundant security measures against Force-users.

By the time Sidious took power as Emperor he already wiped out most of the Jedi; he didn't have any need to make safety plans against Luke Skywalker, a Force user who by Fate of the Jedi is more powerful than ROTJ Sidious, Battle Melded with 12 other Jedi Masters and cloaking themselves in the Force, something that Sidious could only do via rituals, suddenly showing up, getting past the guards and pwning Sidious.

Yeah, I apologize. I don't know what I was thinking.... I thought this thread was about the Empire versus the Fate of the Jedi-era galaxy, not RotJ Sidious versus FotJ Luke Skywalker and friends.

This is one of the worst points you've ever made and you know it; no need to keep on insulting me when it's your wrong. The FOTJ galaxy includes the NJO. Luke Skywalker and friends are part of the NJO. Hence, they are allowed in this thread. If you want to factor in the rest of the FOTJ galaxy minus the NJO then fine: they try and hold off the Empire but would be fighting a losing battle, holding them off while " FOTJ Luke Skywalker and friends" assassinate Sidious. You have provided no logical counter argument.

Originally posted by Nephthys
***** please. How could a simpleton like you hope to understand the total facts which HE WHO KNOWS ALL!!!!!!! posits from his 12-inch silver tongue? Now get back in the kitchen 'fore he slaps you back down with LOGIC!!!! once more.

Stop it bandwagoner. You probably have no actual argument supporting Sidious; if you do, then prove up.

Originally posted by Gideon
Isn't that Lucky Charms?

Gee whiz man, I'm not sure what your problem is. No one here's insulting you: we readily admit that Palpatine wasn't a paranoid despot constantly on the alert for threats against his life and his powerbase, he clearly had no need for particularly strong security.

HWKN
The FOTJ galaxy includes the NJO. Luke Skywalker and friends are part of the NJO.

Again, my mistake. I didn't realize that this thread was RotJ Sidious versus the FotJ galaxy and new Jedi Order. I got the impression that the Galactic Empire was involved, but I guess that was some sort of indirect implication...

Originally posted by Hewhoknowshowtopleaseaman

Originally posted by Gideon
Gee whiz man, I'm not sure what your problem is. No one here's insulting you: we readily admit that Palpatine wasn't a paranoid despot constantly on the alert for threats against his life and his powerbase, he clearly had no need for particularly strong security.

He DID have need for strong security, but that security wasn't structured to defend against Force illusions and attacks from 12 Jedi Masters, among them one who is superior to Sidious.

And look over some of your posts. They're littered with insults.

Again, my mistake. I didn't realize that this thread was RotJ Sidious versus the FotJ galaxy and new Jedi Order. I got the impression that the Galactic Empire was involved, but I guess that was some sort of indirect implication...

You completely ignored the part about Luke and the NJO Council using Force cloak/Force illusions to get past the guards.

HWKN
He DID have need for strong security,

Bullshit. Anyone at any point could have walked right in and killed him and he knew it. Why bother with security when you're just that feeble?

HWKN
but that security wasn't structured to defend against Force illusions and attacks from 12 Jedi Masters, among them one who is superior to Sidious.

This is getting redundant, man. I agreed that Palpatine's "security" clearly wasn't designed to protect him against rival Force-users.

HWKN
And look over some of your posts. They're littered with insults.

Right, but no one's insulting you now.

HWKN
You completely ignored the part about Luke and the NJO Council using Force cloak/Force illusions to get past the guards.

Guards? What guards? This thread clearly states "RotJ Sidious vs. the FotJ Galaxy & FotJ Luke Skywalker & FotJ Jedi Council."

Besides, even if there were guards,

Me
I agreed that Palpatine's "security" clearly wasn't designed to protect him against rival Force-users.

Originally posted by Hewhoknowshowtogetintothespecialschoolallstarteam
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Stop it bandwagoner.

I DON'T LIKE IT WHEN PEOPLE TELL ME WHAT TO DO!!!!!!!

Seriously, basic scanners have infer-red and bodyheat-vision modes. Luke doesn't make it 10 feet.

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Seriously, basic scanners have infer-red and bodyheat-vision modes. Luke doesn't make it 10 feet.

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ROFL

Uh, no. I'm laughing because you apparently think you've made a valid point.

HWKN will curbstomp your ass.