Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
That's like saying if you have air superiority then you just bomb the ground so no need for ground battles sure air superiority/space superiority is very important but isn't everything.Anyway, if this were made into a series then obviously the good guys (galaxy) will win. Or Luke could just kill the Emperor again and then the Empire fractures again.
The Battle of Wits is against the GA
The Battle for Space/Naval Tech is for the GA
The Battle for Manpower is against the GA (Deaths in Both Wars in the Trillions Yuzhan Vong and Second Galactic)
The Battle for Manufacturing Capacity is against the GA (Imps have more Creds)
The Battle for Force Power is for the GA
The Battle for Fighter Supremacy is a Stalemate (Pilots = Stalemate / Fighter Capability Roughly for the GA)
Battle for Contacts is Equal (Both the Imps and GA have strong friends the GA has the Smuggler Alliance / Wooks / Bothans and the Imps have the Chiss Ascendency / Bounty Hunters / Trandoshans )
The Battle for Territory is Equal pretty much.
The Battle for Ground Tech is against the GA (Walkers / AT-ST ect. no where in the EU does it state that the GA has any sort of suitable ground force tech)
YOU Figure out who wins.
Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Dude I don't know who'll win, I'm just responding to those that say that the Empire pwns badly. I said that Empire wins space and allies win ground.
And it's stupid to seperate those two enteties, since the invention of "orbital bombardment" which the Imperials love to use. Hell. They did come up with stuff, that just serves the purpose of blowing planets up (Death Star, Sun Crusher). So...urm. I don't think that they would engage anybody in ground combat, if that isn't required.
But, d'uh, even if they should decide that this is necessary: Even following your (totally stupid) idea, that every damn civilian will get a weapon somewhere and attack the Imperial forces, we're still talking about civilians VS trillions of trained soldiers who enjoy the support of heavy infantry (read: Dark Troopers, Shocktroopers) and a huge amount of military vessels (read: AT-STs, AT-ATs). This is not even thinking about air support.
In short: The Empire simply dwarves any other military force in the universe, which includes the GA. End of story.
I'm sorry; I know that this is a really big bump, so if you're really annoyed with this and don't want to read it then just ignore it, but I've come up with an idea as to how the FOTJ galaxy wins.
Luke and the rest of the council, preferably with Jaina along with them as well, form a battle meld.
Luke cloaks them/disguises them (he's done this before) as well as hiding them in the Force (he's done this before as well) and they walk into Sidious's place.
They then bust in and attack him. Sidious will be no match for the entire council, especially a council using battle meld (Luke using the battle meld with just NJO Jaina and Jacen killed thousands of YV warriors, and Luke wasn't as strong then). They kill Sidious, then make a mad dash to escape.
With Sidious dead, the Empire collapses just like it did after ROTJ.
Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
I doubt they are able to get past the Royal Guard so easily though, especially if cloaked in the Force, since they are basically powerless when cloaked.
If they're clocked in the Force, then the Royal Guard won't be able to detect them. But if that becomes a problem, then they just quickly dispose of the Royal Guards. Yoda knocked two Red Guards out with a glance, and this is the entire council together in a battle meld, so they should be able to do it so quickly that the Royal Guards might not even have time to call for help.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
I don't think Luke will be able to hide the presence of so many powerful Force-sensitive people from someone of Palpatine's caliber.
There's no evidence to suggest otherwise in this case. And even if he can't, they can, using the battle meld, just blitz Palpatine before he calls for help; if he even does that, given Palpatine's extreme arrogance by ROTJ.
HWKN
And even if he can't, they can, using the battle meld, just blitz Palpatine before he calls for help;
Which is exactly how the Jedi post-Order 66 did it! The hundreds of survivors banded together, united under a battle meld, went to Coruscant and PWNED the shit out of that ugly muthafvcka! And then they slaughtered Vader, restored the Republic an --
Spoiler:
Oh wait, they didn't.
Unless the Emperor's ass is in the center of the battlefield, stoned and drunk, sitting on a lawnchair, that's not going to happen.
HWKN
if he even does that, given Palpatine's extreme arrogance by ROTJ.
Extreme arrogance? You do realize that, prior to Ewok intervention and Vader's betrayal, he was winning, right? Don't get me wrong, he's a cocky son of a *****, but not without reason: even if you believe that Luke is the superior Force user at this point, Palpatine's still ten times the strategist that Luke is and has access to unbelievable hardware.