Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
No offense, but if your best judgement has let this thread get to seven pages...-AC
I tend to let my peers argue it out before I intervene, kitten. heartbeat
'Tis only because of you, and the input of others, have I reached this conclusion.
Shall we vacation in Prague or Milan?
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
So, Ariel.How does it feel to know that Impediment is pretty much agreeing that such gimping and handicaps have no place in this forum and is going to stop it?
Pretty much makes me right all along, as he said.
Enjoy putting Iron Man in a fighter jet while it lasts.
-AC
All he said is that the conditions were very restrictive.
Originally posted by ImpedimentSee? Very restricting, and in this thread. And I admitted that I handicapped SS alot to make the playing field even. So in reality, Mattie and I are on the same page. ✅ I simply took MVF rule # 7 and took it to the extreme. If I had known the shitstorm that would come of it, I would never have done it.RJ: I have to agree the other party that your handicaps are, unfortunately, very restricting.
I will continue to handicap combatants as I see fit, but trust me, lesson learned on handicapping like I did here. A solution I had in mind is pming Rob or sadako IF I feel that the handicap is too extreme, seeing as how they share the same opinion as you do, and seeing as how, despite being at odds with me frequently, I know they are good guys and I know they will be straight with me.
Just a thought.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
All he said is that the conditions were very restrictive.See? Very restricting, and in [b]this
thread. And I admitted that I handicapped SS alot to make the playing field even. So in reality, Mattie and I are on the same page. ✅ I simply took MVF rule # 7 and took it to the extreme. If I had known the shitstorm that would come of it, I would never have done it.I will continue to handicap combatants as I see fit, but trust me, lesson learned on handicapping like I did here. A solution I had in mind is pming Rob or sadako IF I feel that the handicap is too extreme, seeing as how they share the same opinion as you do, and seeing as how, despite being at odds with me frequently, I know they are good guys and I know they will be straight with me.
Just a thought. [/B]
According to the PM I got entitled "You're right", we're getting different versions.
You will not continue to handicap as you see fit.
"If I see a spite/gimp (as some people put it) thread, it will be closed.".
You make spite/gimp threads. So no, you will not continue to do that as you see fit.
Too bad.
What is it with you? You keep suggesting all these solutions instead of the one that works best. If you HAVE to gimp a thread or handicap a thread just so it works, DON'T do it in the first place. Just make one that DOESN'T need gimping OR handicapping.
WHY am I explaining this to you for the 90th time? Seriously? What about that do you not understand?
Impediment is only being so touchy about this because he's friends with you. Any other mod would have and should have changed the rules ages ago. He agrees with me, he's said so publically and in PMs.
-AC
Tell you what, go to every thread here, and if there is any handicapping whatsoever going on, repost that. Because according to you, if one side is handicapped even slightly, it is a spite/gimp thread.
And yes, I will continue to start threads and handicap as I see fit. ✅
This thread broke no rules, it is in complete accordance with rule # 7.
A "spite/gimp" thread is different than what I did here. A spite thread is taking one guy and pitting him against another KNOWING that guy A is way too much for guy B. If sadako made a thread titled "McClane versus Pee Wee Herman", that is a spite thread. A gimp thread is taking two guys who are pretty close to being even, and handicapping one way down so that there is no way he can win.
All I did here was take two sides and make them close to being even.
Then stop making them...? 🙂
Put em in the unfair matches thread?
Well if your gonna carry on nicking the cool ideas for threads, then ruining them by always changing goal posts, whilst gleefully gloating that you have impunity to do so, then realise this: Im done with your threads, and I reserve the right to make a similar thread if yours is deemed a gimped out waste steeped in your own personal fantasy.
If you'd now effectively say what goes on these threads, Id be done with the section, as it'd be 'devoid of' and indeed 'opposed to' debating logic in any form.
The Hogwarts/Sw thread was an unbeautiful but powerful example of RJnian gimping at its finest.
Fixed:
"A gimp thread is taking a thread, and handicapping one way down so that there is no way he can win."
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Tell you what, go to every thread here, and if there is any handicapping whatsoever going on, repost that. Because according to you, if one side is handicapped even slightly, it is a spite/gimp thread.And yes, I will continue to start threads and handicap as I see fit. ✅
This thread broke no rules, it is in complete accordance with rule # 7.
A "spite/gimp" thread is different than what I did here. A spite thread is taking one guy and pitting him against another KNOWING that guy A is way too much for guy B. If sadako made a thread titled "McClane versus Pee Wee Herman", that is a spite thread. A gimp thread is taking two guys who are pretty close to being even, and handicapping one way down so that there is no way he can win.
All I did here was take two sides and make them close to being even.
Nope. I see what your trying to say, but if that were me I would have said to just put it in the "Greatest mismatches of all time thread". (as I have all the way through this.)
Originally posted by Impediment
Can this thread get back on topic, or do I just need to close it?
I think that whilst such a thread exists, its gonna be a point of contension.
Especially with RJ's "My thread, not yours" attitude and the basic and constant refusal to accept logic, physics, tech specs, or ANYTHING that would show the Top Gun team to lose.
'Cause thats just pointless, irritating and sucks all the fun out of debate.
And his new "Ill modify /gimp anything I please" bragging, it makes it absolutely likea personal power trip for RJ, at all our expense.
I think there's more hate against RJ than there is objective disagreement.
This is just my opinion.
You all know how pissy I get when someone doesn't get science/physics right, and I call anyone, including RJ on it. I just don't understand this intense hate on RJ that you three have on his Vs. threads. I've been fine with most of them and RJ's vs. threads are usually really good match ups.
Think of how many hours all of us have put into RJ's matchup threads. That alone should tell you that he's doing something right. (Even if it is arguing controversy...it's still debatable.)
There no hate.
Stirrer.
The issue is with the poster's tactics, rather than the poster.
Too many of those sessions have become embroiled in willful ignorance towards physics, reason and logic of any kind at the detriment of enjoyable/informative debate.
There is no room for debate when one side isnt listening.
The fact is, Mon, that he is a man who bathes in ignorance.
He simply refuses to see what we are all saying and what he is doing incorrectly and illogically. It does not matter how civilly it is explained to him by us, he still refuses to accept what we're saying. Simply because of who we are.
He would rather remain in this tepid afterbirth of idiocy than ever agree that what Alpha Centauri is saying makes sense.
I don't hate the man, don't dislike the man. I hate how dumb he is.
Don't suggest that time logged in his threads is good time logged regardless. More often than not his threads are being debated, not the contents of them. Why? Because he f*cking sucks at making them, on every single level. That's not beneficial to this forum. If you ask Impediment what kind of traffic he wants, I'm sure he'd say he wants it for the right reasons.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Tell you what, go to every thread here, and if there is any handicapping whatsoever going on, repost that. Because according to you, if one side is handicapped even slightly, it is a spite/gimp thread.And yes, I will continue to start threads and handicap as I see fit. ✅
This thread broke no rules, it is in complete accordance with rule # 7.
A "spite/gimp" thread is different than what I did here. A spite thread is taking one guy and pitting him against another KNOWING that guy A is way too much for guy B. If sadako made a thread titled "McClane versus Pee Wee Herman", that is a spite thread. A gimp thread is taking two guys who are pretty close to being even, and handicapping one way down so that there is no way he can win.
All I did here was take two sides and make them close to being even.
The very fact that I am still having to explain to you why this is gimping and why it's unproductive puts you at a level of inexcusable retardation. I'm sorry, but it truly does. No grown adult should ever have to have something explained to them so many times, not if it's this simple.
You didn't make a fight EVEN, you made the fight ridiculous. Iron Man flying a f*cking plane? You're a moron, man.
There is a difference between editing the context of a fight slightly and it not being unfair to EITHER combatant because it maintains an entertaining fight, and editing context to the point that you did here.
This is all wasted, because you still won't get it and I'm still gonna have to keep explaining it to you until Impediment does what's right and makes it a rule to not do this kind of thing for the sake of his forum.
-AC
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Tell you what, go to every thread here, and if there is any handicapping whatsoever going on, repost that. Because according to you, if one side is handicapped even slightly, it is a spite/gimp thread.And yes, I will continue to start threads and handicap as I see fit. ✅
This thread broke no rules, it is in complete accordance with rule # 7.
A "spite/gimp" thread is different than what I did here. A spite thread is taking one guy and pitting him against another KNOWING that guy A is way too much for guy B. If sadako made a thread titled "McClane versus Pee Wee Herman", that is a spite thread. A gimp thread is taking two guys who are pretty close to being even, and handicapping one way down so that there is no way he can win.
All I did here was take two sides and make them close to being even.
Guy you didnt even make them close to even after the whole gimping. The other tema would still annihilate team top gun. Theres no way around it and it should of been accepted a long time ago.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriDude, I never said IM was flying a plane. I said the pursuers were flying F22's, I didnt think I had to add on that this does not include IM. Of course he wouldnt be in a plane. Geez.
The fact is, Mon, that he is a man who bathes in ignorance.He simply refuses to see what we are all saying and what he is doing incorrectly and illogically. It does not matter how civilly it is explained to him by us, he still refuses to accept what we're saying. Simply because of who we are.
He would rather remain in this tepid afterbirth of idiocy than ever agree that what Alpha Centauri is saying makes sense.
I don't hate the man, don't dislike the man. I hate how dumb he is.
Don't suggest that time logged in his threads is good time logged regardless. More often than not his threads are being debated, not the contents of them. Why? Because he f*cking sucks at making them, on every single level. That's not beneficial to this forum. If you ask Impediment what kind of traffic he wants, I'm sure he'd say he wants it for the right reasons.
The very fact that I am still having to explain to you why this is gimping and why it's unproductive puts you at a level of inexcusable retardation. I'm sorry, but it truly does. No grown adult should ever have to have something explained to them so many times, not if it's this simple.
You didn't make a fight EVEN, you made the fight ridiculous. Iron Man flying a f*cking plane? You're a moron, man.
There is a difference between editing the context of a fight slightly and it not being unfair to EITHER combatant because it maintains an entertaining fight, and editing context to the point that you did here.
This is all wasted, because you still won't get it and I'm still gonna have to keep explaining it to you until Impediment does what's right and makes it a rule to not do this kind of thing for the sake of his forum.
-AC
If Impediment amends the MVF rules, I'll roll with whatever changes are made, doesnt really matter to me.