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Originally posted by SpadeKing
really what has Kain even got in defense against Mewtwo?Mewtwo obviously can teleport if he moved an entire lake, a huge amount of pokemon to a different location and teleport selected people easily.
hell he did it twice, and he mind wiped people from a different location.
thing is what does that say from a wikipedia source? most likely... until I see of a pokemon that bled then I will be convinced otherwise
Teleportion and mist, he will mist if M2 tries a physical blast, and go solid/teleport if he tries weather manip, Kain has plenty of time to activat said powers because M2 takes around 2 seconds to actually let loose imrpessive power, perhaps more. Kain can behead M2 in a second, hell less than a second since he striked 5 men in a second, one M2 would take 1/5th of that time.
Well as I said, i want evidence, not a few statements, I dont know why but i trust Miria judgement over yours and she claims its not canon.
Why would you see a Pokemon bleed in a childs cartoon? dont be daft, thats what that information says, its better information than mere statements.
Originally posted by SuperLuigi
all this time talkin bout mewtwo... kain has to beat the spartans, raziel and rayne, zidane squall and tidus, and samus before getting to mewtwo. with 2 soul steals i want to know how he reaches M2 in the first place. in detail
Sure, fair enough.
Spartans
When he faces the spartans his mission is easy, all he has to do is use inspire hate or mind contorl powers and they will kill eachother, if the worse comes to the worst he can use the blood power I mentioned earlier and drain them all dry, they will all drop lifeless and dead. Kain can do these things from range and can go from mist to teleport if required to escape.
Raziel and Rayne
Blood rayne I assume? I would be more interested if Rayne could harm Kain at all with any of her abilities ,iven ot played all the Rayne games from start to finish (got up to the Jetpack Natzi's in the first game, where you first meet the werewolf things). But if shes not got any major powers boosts since then I cannot imagine how she could be worth anything.
Raizle is simple to destroy, he is no challenge to Kain.
Squall+Tidus
I must be honest, I dont know mcuh on these characters at all, ive played as Tidus (FF10) but I dont remember anything major from his powerset, also what powers do each have? canon powers or gameplay abiltiies, if its gameplay powers then its unkown on what they can do in canon anyway so I would suggest canon, in which case I can only wait until someone with large knowledge on both can list their abilities, I could point out powers Kain could use like Repel shield against their magic, teleportion to slash them all and rip out their souls within that second they begin but I dont know their reaction speeds or defences.
Seamus
same as above really, I think hes going to have to use a soul power on this one, her armour is from what iveh eard capable of surviving black holes and such, then again, ive also heard these blackholes were tiny singularities, not real blackholes and that it was not canon so I dont know, soul powers, blood powers, similiar tactics to when he faced the spartans, he may have to reform in mist if his body is destroyed.
M2
being debated currently, from personal experiance from what ive seen form M2 recently in his vids he cant cast a psychic spell quick enough that is actually effective against Kain, he cant apprently canonically teleport, his barrier has so far only statements backing it, vague ones at that and furthermore it may be useles to magic which it may not necesserily protect against just like Kains may not protect against psychic forces but fact is, kain has passively shown immuntiy to a vampire whos actually controlled a small army of humans, not jsut erased part of their memories, actually commandered their minds nad he could just barely read a few of Kains thoughts. Take into mind that this was weakest Kain of all time nad one of the youngest and most unwise AND before he gained the powers of said vampire, tbh logically speaking, M2 can be mind controlled by Kain taking into light current evidence.
Trance kuja
been debated before in another thread, for all his power, planet destroyin etc, hes weaker than M2 because like most FF characters, he does not seem to have to ability to cast spells quickly and Kain has a reflecting shield anyway, combine that with the typical argument of soul stealing, blood draing etc, Kain could win this fairly easily from my own knowledge, ofcourse if hteres a Trance kuja buff who can show evidence of speedy and powerful spells or durability against the forces i mentioned above then I am open to their input.
Originally posted by Q'Anilia
A baby can't manage the gun. Despite its firepower being the same, the baby has to grow up in order to use it efficiently, this include pulling the trigger faster as well as aiming more properly.
Indeed, but this is not the case with M2, although a child with a gun can be generally more dangerous than a train soldier who has training and restraint. A yong toddler going mad with a machinegun could cause more damage to the area than a trained soldier fireing short controlled bursts which was my point with m2 mind as it gets more understanding may become less devastating and quick to use his abilities. Sure M2 once trained like the soldier will gain more desirable effects, perhaps more accuracy, damage etc, but then again whats to say Pokemon, especially M2 who is born adult and with a fully functional and superior quickl learning brain is going to react and can be compared in any way to a child.
Fact of the matter being M2 has not shown instant and effective power with his weapons.