Revan strengths

Honestly I don't see what's there to argue about. I think people underestimate talent and how heavily that plays into a Jedi's role.

For some people on this forum knowledge is everything, so much so that they find it hard to beleive that a no name Jedi librarian might actually possess more force knowledge than their favorite hero/s. Only because they seem to collerate knowledge with power (and it does correllate to a degree, but not always physical power).

If we each of us could feel the force, I guarantee that not all of us would have the talent to be jedi warriors, some of us would fit more as Jedi scholars, or diplomats etc.

Originally posted by Allankles
That's the thing TJ. How much time did Revan have to gather vast knowledge in the time periods he has appeared in canon? I'm not saying he didn't have some "considerable" knowledge, but how is it irrational to conclude that a Jedi book worm would have the access and the time to gather more knowledge than a Revan (or any other relatively young jedi hero)?

not long. DS agrees it was 1 or 2 years tops. He is still trying to say Revan would learn more in those 1 or 2 in years than any other person than sidious ever learned. It is laughable. I am not used to that level of idiocy.

Originally posted by Allankles
Honestly I don't see what's there to argue about. I think people underestimate talent and how heavily that plays into a Jedi's role.

For some people on this forum knowledge is everything, so much so that they find it hard to beleive that a no name Jedi librarian might actually possess more force knowledge than their favorite hero/s. Only because they seem to collerate knowledge with power (and it does correllate to a degree, but not always physical power).

If we each of us could feel the force, I guarantee that not all of us would have the talent to be jedi warriors, some of us would fit more as Jedi scholars, or diplomats etc.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
What are you people arguing about?

Revan and shtuff, it's in the topic title.

Originally posted by Allankles
I made my point. I didn't say every jedi librarian was as accomplished as Jocasta Nu or Kreia or even Atris but that they spent every waking hour of their lives working on the jedi archives.

20,000+ years worth of knowledge is at their desposal. It is far more likely that they would gather knowledge on the Jedi arts as well as the Sith (if they are masters) living within touching distance of all the holocrons, including the great jedi holcoron itself.

Far more likely that they learnt more of the force on average (useful or otherwise) than the active field agents.

No, your point was thoroughly destroyed.

Originally posted by Autokrat
Nice little rhetorical trick you pulled here, trying to draw DS into claiming an absolute... anyways.

"It has been here for thousands of years. It is a place where Sith teachings run strong… It is the threshold of the borders of an ancient empire. Kreia says that it was a place of reflection for the ancient Sith… a gateway to their lands. It drew Lord Revan… and it calls to her as well. She said that the teachings here will lead one to the Sith… the true Sith… and all their shadowed worlds. This place led Revan to the graveyards of Korriban… and beyond."

That's Sion's little blurb on it, the Chronicles of the Old Republic mention it, one of the loading screen blurbs mention it. Seeing as how clearly Revan had learned a lot of Sith Knowledge, which certainly at the very [b]least impressed Bane, I don't see why this is even being argued. [/B]

Lol. Some people juist don't get "it".

Originally posted by truejedi
not long. DS agrees it was 1 or 2 years tops. He is still trying to say Revan would learn more in those 1 or 2 in years than any other person than sidious ever learned. It is laughable. I am not used to that level of idiocy.

I never said anything of the sort. Your constant inability to read is why you couldn't make a valid argument in this thread.

Originally posted by Red Nemesis
So your response to TJ pointing out your lies and faylure is to point out another example of his ability to pwn foolz?

I'm not sure I understand your angle here.

Your typical response from Red. TJ is on my ignore list. I had to take him off to see what all the blah is about. I saw it! Red there is no angle, with a little reading comprehension it would clear that I was being sarcastic when I made the response about “Sidious forgetting to teach Maul force lightning” and the real point that was being discussed would have been known. TJ stating that I was a liar is typical of his argument with me, Autokrat, and Ds, which is one of not addressing any points, taking statements out of context, and being void of logic in the fullest sense. He is like little child stating why all the time he keeps saying prove this prove that without proving anything himself. He writes in English but obviously does not understand the language. If that is pwn to you so be it. Those who side with ignorance and stupidity become ignorant and stupid.

originally posted by truejedi

Think of this: You claim that because Revan had access to more sith knowledge (a claim you can't prove, but i'll go with it at the moment) than any other sith in history, he had more knowledge than other force-users.

Originally posted by Dr. McBeefington

No, because he also studied those sources. For a year or two.

You just had to keep on didn't you. Now you have sank to the level of kotor3 by blatantly lying to defend your nonsense.

And those quotes were not taken out of context. He used the latter to defend the former:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=513714&pagenumber=19

This just pisses me off after awhile. Spew the stupid nonsense all you want, and then when someone calls you on it, you deny ever saying it, despite it being written there for all to see. It is the height of stupidity.

Originally posted by truejedi

You just had to keep on didn't you. Now you have sank to the level of kotor3 by blatantly lying to defend your nonsense.

And those quotes were not taken out of context. He used the latter to defend the former:

This just pisses me off after awhile. Spew the stupid nonsense all you want, and then when someone calls you on it, you deny ever saying it, despite it being written there for all to see. It is the height of stupidity. [/B]

For all to see, meaning just you? If you're going to go down the route of the majority, make sure they're on your side. As to your quotes, I have no idea what you're talking about. Bane could barely wrap his mind around the stuff that Revan knew. The end.

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
Go back to the drawing board.

😆 😆

bye bye noobaris

Not if the negotiations between Rex and I have anything to do about it!

Originally posted by Dr McBeefington
Nothing I said contradicts anything. He had more knowledge than anyone but Palpatine, presumably. I never stated that he studied all of that knowledge in the 1-2 years. Go back to the drawing board.

For all to see, meaning just you? If you're going to go down the route of the majority, make sure they're on your side. As to your quotes, I have no idea what you're talking about. Bane could barely wrap his mind around the stuff that Revan knew. The end.

I certainly haven't gone the route of the majority. It isn't necesary. YOU are the one that keeps bringing up how people agree with you, which i haven't seen yet. You are the only one claiming revan knew more than everyone but Sidious.

You are yet to back it up.

Because fresh out of the sith academy Bane could not wrap his mind around something DOES NOT mean that only Sidious has more knowledge than Bane. It doesn't even make any sense to connect those two points.

As far as denying what you said earlier: Your words are still out there, i don't even have to argue with you. If what you meant was different than what you said, you should say so now, and I will accept that.

Originally posted by truejedi
I certainly haven't gone the route of the majority. It isn't necesary. YOU are the one that keeps bringing up how people agree with you, which i haven't seen yet. You are the only one claiming revan knew more than everyone but Sidious.

Because fresh out of the sith academy Bane could not wrap his mind around something DOES NOT mean that only Sidious has more knowledge than Bane. It doesn't even make any sense to connect those two points.

As far as denying what you said earlier: Your words are still out there, i don't even have to argue with you. If what you meant was different than what you said, you should say so now, and I will accept that. [/B]

Originally posted by A. Cloud
Not if the negotiations between Rex and I have anything to do about it!

Seem very effective so far.

Originally posted by Slash_KMC
Seem very effective so far.

Why are you replying to him?

Originally posted by Vorpal Ruin
Why are you replying to him?

I'm a rebel like that. (Sorry REX!!)

And I loved the irony.

DS, I told you 7 posts ago that I'm simply not going to have the last word, because to people like you, that is all you need to feel like you won. It must be frustrating recieving the hand you constantly deal. Hilariously, you continue to respond.

Fact of the matter is, you don't have a point. And considering the only thing i've said is you need to prove your point, telling me i don't have a point is a useless sentence. Keep trying. Even the monkeys on typewriters will spit out Shakespeare eventually.

Originally posted by truejedi
DS, I told you 7 posts ago that I'm simply not going to have the last word, because to people like you, that is all you need to feel like you won. It must be frustrating recieving the hand you constantly deal. Hilariously, you continue to respond.

Fact of the matter is, you don't have a point. And considering the only thing i've said is you need to prove your point, telling me i don't have a point is a useless sentence. Keep trying. Even the monkeys on typewriters will spit out Shakespeare eventually. [/B]

Uhuh. So I tell you you lost, you repeat it back to me. I tell you you have no point, you repeat it back to me. You've definitely got something going there with the "monkeys" comment.