French pool bans 'burkini' swim

French pool bans 'burkini' swim
BBC News

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8197917.stm

French officials have banned a Muslim woman from swimming in a public pool while wearing a swimsuit that covers her entire body.

The woman had swum in July in the pool in Emerainville, east of Paris, in the "burkini" - a loose-fitting garment resembling a wetsuit with a hood.

But staff stopped her from swimming in August, citing hygiene concerns.

It comes as the government examines ways to limit burka use after the president said they reduced dignity.

France is home to Western Europe's largest population of Muslims, with about 5 million living there.

At the pool, staff "reminded [the woman] of the rules that apply in all (public) swimming pools which forbid swimming while clothed," pool management official Daniel Guillaume was quoted by AFP as saying.

The woman was a French convert to Islam, and had bought the swimsuit in Dubai so that she would not have to uncover herself to go swimming.

"Quite simply, this is segregation," she said, according to Le Parisien newspaper, which identified her only as Carole.

"I will fight to try to change things. And if I see that the battle is lost, I cannot rule out leaving France."

Emerainville Mayor Alain Kelyor said "all this has nothing to do with Islam", adding that the swimsuit was "not an Islamic swimsuit" and that "that type of suit does not exist in the Koran".

'Prisoners behind netting'

In June the French National Assembly appointed 32 MPs to a six-month fact-finding mission to look at ways of restricting burka use.

In a major policy speech that month, President Nicolas Sarkozy said the burka - a garment covering women from head to toe - reduced them to servitude and undermined their dignity.

"We cannot accept to have in our country women who are prisoners behind netting, cut off from all social life, deprived of identity," Mr Sarkozy told a special session of parliament in Versailles.

In 2004, France banned the Islamic headscarves in its state schools.

Isn't France supposed to be the birth place of liberty?

lol, so like, the idea that Muslim women need a voice and liberation is not at all incorrect, but didn't America's little incursion into the Middle East sort of prove it isn't wise to try and force these things on people?

Looking at the story, the woman almost assuredly feels that the Burka is her choice, which in a free country it should be.

A good image of what the "burkini" looks like:
http://matin.branchez-vous.com/nouvelles/upload/2008/08/burkini.jpg

Not that it really matters, but I used to be a lifeguard, and in my expert opinion, that constitutes a bathing suit.

France is going to get another Islamic riot.

How is that not a bathing suit? It's basically a onepiece with a cap.

I totally support this.

Just because France (or any other democratic country) is a democracy does not mean everyone can come in shit on it how they please with random demands.

Because French woman cannot walk around in a bikini in many Muslim seaside at all. Why? Because it is the law of that country.
It may be French women's choice to wear a bikini, but the law says no, and therefore that should be respected.
French woman will therefore go to a beach where bikini is acceptable wear.

If you don't like dressing up in and non-pajama-ninja clothes then one should move to a place where that kind of clothing is mandatory and/or accepted.

Go French....you sill bastards.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
How is that not a bathing suit? It's basically a onepiece with a cap.

Some public pools do not allow diving gear, ie wetsuits, air-tank, flippers etc.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Because French woman cannot walk around in a bikini in many Muslim seaside at all. Why? Because it is the law of that country.

we should oppress people's freedom because the nations they may have escaped from to live here oppress people's freedom...?

also, the woman is a french citizen who converted to Islam, making her country France.

Yeaaahhhh, take it off.

Originally posted by inimalist
we should oppress people's freedom because the nations they may have escaped from to live here oppress people's freedom...?

also, the woman is a french citizen who converted to Islam, making her country France.

How is it ''opressing freedom'' - if they 'escaped' from ''opressing countries'', I hardly think that dress should be the problem of adapting.

Hmm..stoned to death, or not look like a ninja...hmmm? Hard one, that.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I totally support this.

Just because France (or any other democratic country) is a democracy does not mean everyone can come in shit on it how they please with random demands.

Because French woman cannot walk around in a bikini in many Muslim seaside at all. Why? Because it is the law of that country.
It may be French women's choice to wear a bikini, but the law says no, and therefore that should be respected.
French woman will therefore go to a beach where bikini is acceptable wear.

If you don't like dressing up in and non-pajama-ninja clothes then one should move to a place where that kind of clothing is mandatory and/or accepted.

Go French....you sill bastards.

imo your justification seems to be kind of weak. from what i gather from your post youre saying that what france is doing is okay simply because thats the law? if so and i hate to use this as an example because of how extreme it is but would you say that not allowing someone entry to a building because of their skin color or putting people in extermination camps because of their culture is justified by it being the law? in my opinion having the power to do something doesnt make it right.

"But staff stopped her from swimming in August, citing hygiene concerns."

Makes sense, as something like would probably breed bacteria, especially if she doesn't wax, shave or trim her pubic area or anal region.

Originally posted by Robtard
"But staff stopped her from swimming in August, citing hygiene concerns."

Makes sense, as something like would probably breed bacteria, especially if she doesn't wax, shave or trim her pubic area or anal region.

She's a muslim, so she does now.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
She's a muslim, so she does now.

Islam supports waxing/shaving/trimming the genitals and anus from a religious standpoint?

Originally posted by Robtard
Islam supports waxing/shaving/trimming the genitals and anus from a religious standpoint?

Yes. It is obligatory in Islam. Read the Qu'ran.

Originally posted by inimalist
French pool bans 'burkini' swim
BBC News

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8197917.stm

Isn't France supposed to be the birth place of liberty?

lol, so like, the idea that Muslim women need a voice and liberation is not at all incorrect, but didn't America's little incursion into the Middle East sort of prove it isn't wise to try and force these things on people?

Looking at the story, the woman almost assuredly feels that the Burka is her choice, which in a free country it should be.

A good image of what the "burkini" looks like:
http://matin.branchez-vous.com/nouvelles/upload/2008/08/burkini.jpg

Not that it really matters, but I used to be a lifeguard, and in my expert opinion, that constitutes a bathing suit.

So not only is she not entitled to wear what she wants but then pass her as dirty.

Friggin two-face Europeans and they have the audacity to call Americans paranoid.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Even better she's French! She is obliged to follow her country's laws. End of discussion. And if she doesn't like France any more - she can always immigrate.
Like I have, when I stopped liking England.
Instead of demanding all the shit I hate there, I just moved.

How is it ''opressing freedom'' - if they 'escaped' from ''opressing countries'', I hardly think that dress should be the problem of adapting.

Hmm..stoned to death, or not look like a ninja...hmmm? Hard one, that.

God, if only someone had explained that to the people who fought the American or French revolutions.

All they had to do to get their own freedom was leave.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Yes. It is obligatory in Islam. Read the Qu'ran.

converted

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Yes. It is obligatory in Islam. Read the Qu'ran.

I've read sections, just not that one it seems.

Can you show me where? Not that I think you're lying, just curios. Does this apply for men too?

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
imo your justification seems to be kind of weak. from what i gather from your post youre saying that what france is doing is okay simply because thats the law? if so and i hate to use this as an example because of how extreme it is but would you say that not allowing someone entry to a building because of their skin color or putting people in extermination camps because of their culture is justified by it being the law? in my opinion having the power to do something doesnt make it right.

That is just ridiculous, and no it is not the same nor can it be compared.
Race and religion are not the same thing and the law is there for a reason.
What is this ridiculous shit anyway? I am a minority and I adapted perfectly to where I was, maybe I am missing an opportunity to milk western countries and play the ethnic/racial card to project my obnoxiousness further.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
What is this ridiculous shit anyway? I am a minority and I adapted perfectly to where I was, maybe I am missing an opportunity to milk western countries and play the ethnic/racial card to project my obnoxiousness further.

you are in Canada

it is part of our constitution

I'm not even kidding

Originally posted by Robtard
I've read sections, just not that one it seems.

Can you show me where? Not that I think you're lying, just curios. Does this apply for men too?

Nope, not to men. Just women. Let me get the copy out, see if I can dig it out.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
[B]That is just ridiculous, and no it is not the same nor can it be compared.
Race and religion are not the same thing and the law is there for a reason.

religion can be considered a culture though which is something that the jews were opressed and exterminated for.