Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Until you concede that is. Your the one who claimed Superman is stronger. Prove it. There are plenty of feats of strength from Thor that show he is as strong. I said he has superior damage soak and pain resistance etc. That I can back up.Yes because that gun and his weapons are obviously always available to him and he can access them anywhere/anywhen and he can also somehow Sundip despite the opening thread clearly stating that they are on an isolated planet in the middle of nowhere that they cannot leave. No wonder they call him Superman! 😱
In a normal fight, amping himself up with Solar energy would just force Thor to cut off the power source. With his energy absorbing abilities, he can absorb the entire damn Sun and drain Superman's solar storages.
Also, I want to see Thor absorbing entire sun of it's energies while fighting someone like Superman. Also, I doubt that Thor can even drain Superman whatsoever. He has never done it to someone like Superman.
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Also, I doubt that Thor can even drain Superman whatsoever. He has never done it to someone like Superman.
Someone like superman? what does that even mean?.
Anyhow with CIS off surfer wins this. Taking out superman would hardly be a problem and then it would come down to thor. Aside blood and thunder were most of the characters fought far below par (not using most of their abilities) and thor was written to never before or again seen levels( and was most likely amped by a state of pseudo warrior madness) then he certainly isnt easily downing surfer. With that being said surfer reshapes his board into razor sharp form and rams it into thors head at 100000 times the speed of light or creates a blackhole in his pupil FTW.
At least on KMC, there's a few of us that are willing to defend him. The way he is seen on Herochat (where practically only one guy defends him, Jellyrobes, and he gets hell for it) and CBR (where pretty much any herald owns him and characters like Gladiator completly destroy him. Not to mention Sentry takes him, along with the whole Justice League, and wins with ease with Supes being unable to even affect him. Don't even get me started on Silver Surfer) is laughably sad.
the way many people think is retarded
Oh, Superman has weakness to magic --> Thor has magic --> Therefore, Thor should beat Superman (the fact is, a punch by thor is still just a punch, a hit with Mjolnir is still just a hit, only if Thor actually pulls out attacks of magical nature (godblast) will it do significant damage to Superman...and guess what, godblast has no chance in hell of hitting someone as fast as Superman)
Oh, Superman has weakness to red sunlight --> Silver Surfer can possibly create red sunlight --> Silver Surfer for the easy win (the fact is, Superman would never allow Surfer the breathing room to first analyze Superman's weaknesses and then to exploit it)
People also dismiss Superman's advantages as if they were minor...guys like RageofOlympus completely underestimate Superman's speed
Outside of Flashes, no one in comics uses speed anywhere close to Superman, and I would argue Superman uses speed more effectively than Flashes because he combines power and flight as well
I would say with the stakes given, Superman is the odds on favorite imo
Originally posted by Philosophía
At least on KMC, there's a few of us that are willing to defend him. The way he is seen on Herochat (where practically only one guy defends him, Jellyrobes, and he gets hell for it) and CBR (where pretty much any herald owns him and characters like Gladiator completly destroy him. Not to mention Sentry takes him, along with the whole Justice League, and wins with ease with Supes being unable to even affect him. Don't even get me started on Silver Surfer) is laughably sad.
yeah, that's true. i havent been in one in ages...
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
That would be cool. You got all that shit on that thread, because you didn't know what you were talking about and I was simply setting some stuff straight.Silver Surfer has used all of his power, not held back and was still put down by Thor unfortunately. Twice.
Nice theory. Unfortunately, with Mjolnir in his hands, matter manipulation isn't what your going to beat Thor with. Even if Thor allowed it, he could just use Mjolnir to say, become intangible.
Thor's stated that he can damage Adamantium though and has as I recall.
Could he win? Yes. Would he win? No in my opinion.
Thor's raw power had beings on Superman, and Silver Surfer's level running for the hills when he was blood lusted. That's not even using his more powerful offensive attacks and versatility. Here attacks like the God Blast, Anti-Force, Thermoblast and so on would be used. Each who have one shotted beings of extreme power. These guys better run for the hills, when Thor starts pulling out that type of power.
Like I said:
Thor comes in first, followed closely by Silver Surfer and then Superman.
You're giving me the sh*ts, and I'm running low on toiler paper now.
You're wrong, you'll always be wrong, and you've been wrong your whole life. Believe me; I've been making calls, writing letters, doing research, and I couldn't find one moment in your life where you were right. I mean, I've been wrong before. Like when I chose to save my grandmother over my Dwayne Wade jersey, but I most certainly was not wrong about Thor. He's mighty. He's powerful. He's hung like an elephant. But Hulk's stronger than him. You giving me sh*t is like a nat gnawing on a zit; indefensibly irritating while altogether insignificant. And now I've got the runs. And I'm low on toilet paper and water. You know how much you have to drink to avoid dehydration when you have the runs? You're costing me money, and water, and toilet paper. And sometimes, when I pass the point of no return, when toilet paper won't cover the damage, I even have to take showers. So it's also costing me soap. And sometimes shampoo.
So for the love of L Ron, let go of Thor's little-Mjolnir, and let him fight his own battles.
Surfer wins because he's awesome, has more cosmic power than you could shake a grandmother at, he can't be drained physically, mentally, or power-wise, he's needs no sustenance, he can heal all damage in seconds. He can even tag-team with his board against Thor, amp his own strength, detect the minute energy fluctuations when Thor is about to fire energy blasts of any kind or his God Blast and therefore avoid it, transmute his own board into Uru metal so Thor's hammer can't hurt it, make himself intangible and let his board do all the dirty work. You get it? Surfer can do practically anything. He's more godlike than standard Thor will ever be. And Superman, I like him and all, but I think Surfer can probably eat him for breakfast. As unlikely or OOC it is for Surfer to do any of this sh*t, there's no reason he can't if he felt truly hard-pressed to win by killing his opponents. Surfer, using every little power in his arsenal to their maximum extent, has a very high chance of taking this.
thor would look around confused, cause all he would see are flashes of silver and red.
im a person that believe these guys out class him to a great degree in the speed department, and that makes a huge difference. People dont take full consideration of the speed advantage. i personally love superman, but surfer was made to beat him. after surfer takes him out, thor and surfer go at it for alittle while. In the end surfer is the winner
Originally posted by Philosophía
At least on KMC, there's a few of us that are willing to defend him. The way he is seen on Herochat (where practically only one guy defends him, Jellyrobes, and he gets hell for it) and CBR (where pretty much any herald owns him and characters like Gladiator completly destroy him. Not to mention Sentry takes him, along with the whole Justice League, and wins with ease with Supes being unable to even affect him. Don't even get me started on Silver Surfer) is laughably sad.
Sentry takes Superman? Point me to said forums please 😖hifty:
Originally posted by Master Court
You're giving me the sh*ts, and I'm running low on toiler paper now.You're wrong, you'll always be wrong, and you've been wrong your whole life. Believe me; I've been making calls, writing letters, doing research, and I couldn't find one moment in your life where you were right. I mean, I've been wrong before. Like when I chose to save my grandmother over my Dwayne Wade jersey, but I most certainly was not wrong about Thor. He's mighty. He's powerful. He's hung like an elephant. But Hulk's stronger than him. You giving me sh*t is like a nat gnawing on a zit; indefensibly irritating while altogether insignificant. And now I've got the runs. And I'm low on toilet paper and water. You know how much you have to drink to avoid dehydration when you have the runs? You're costing me money, and water, and toilet paper. And sometimes, when I pass the point of no return, when toilet paper won't cover the damage, I even have to take showers. So it's also costing me soap. And sometimes shampoo.
So for the love of L Ron, let go of Thor's little-Mjolnir, and let him fight his own battles.
😆
Good fight but I give this to thor more than not. He is the surfer, just as powerful, just as durable, stronger, just as versatile, and reflexes is just as good.
A thor and surfer fight would come straight down to brute strength because everything that surfer dish out would be absorbed and thrown back at him.
Superman wont go as easy as people is making it, he has proven that he can hang with the best of them on many of occasioins BUT versatility and raw power, he cant hang with either of them. Does he have a resistance to soul suck? Does he have a resistance from being shrunk to 3 inches? Thor and Surfer is just too powerful.
Thor comes 1st, Surfer, and Supes comes last but gives a hell of a fight.
Originally posted by Starscream M Oh, Superman has weakness to magic --> Thor has magic --> Therefore, Thor should beat Superman (the fact is, a punch by thor is still just a punch, a hit with Mjolnir is still just a hit, only if Thor actually pulls out attacks of magical nature (godblast) will it do significant damage to Superman...and guess what, godblast has no chance in hell of hitting someone as fast as Superman)I agree. But it's not like Superman is weak to magic like he was portrayed in the past. Witters most of the time will almost downright ignore this or it's hardly noticeably. But this weakness will most likely always exists as an excuse to shows that this weakness is still there <like when Murdru was attacking Superman>. Anyway Superman should beat Thor for a majority.
Originally posted by Starscream M Oh, Superman has weakness to red sunlight --> Silver Surfer can possibly create red sunlight --> Silver Surfer for the easy win (the fact is, Superman would never allow Surfer the breathing room to first analyze Superman's weaknesses and then to exploit it)1.) It's not like it takes Surfer time to analyze weakness and look at the atomic structures and it's not like he can't do this in mid battle. You make it sound like this creating Red sunlight is a difficult task.
Anyway.
1.) Surfer - Durability , Speed , Healing
2.) Superman - Durability , Speed
3.) Thor - Power
I think Thor's lack of speed will be his downfall here while others will be able to get in more shots.
But this really depends on who does what and who attacks who really.
Originally posted by xJLxKing Yes, those weapons are very easily accessible to Superman. It wouldn't take him longer then 2-3 seconds to get them. Yeah, he can't leave the planet, but he can go to outside where the rays are much stronger.Also, I want to see Thor absorbing entire sun of it's energies while fighting someone like Superman. Also, I doubt that Thor can even drain Superman whatsoever. He has never done it to someone like Superman.
How the hell, would those weapons be accessible to Superman and how the hell would it take him a few seconds to get them when they are on a planet in the middle of nowhere which they are not allowed to leave? That doesn't even make sense.
You said Sundip. How the hell is he going to Sundip if he can't get to the Sun? He is going to attempt a sunnier area? That's great. Too bad there isn't much choice as the planet the battle is on, is the size of Rhode Island.
It wouldn't really be that difficult with his defensive capabilities. Whip up one impenetrable force field around himself, and go on to drain the Star.
Why would it be so unlikely for Thor to accomplish draining Superman?
Triumph brought him to his knees, and I even recall Clark himself stating he could die or something along those lines, if he was completely drained. This is Thor who can drain enough energy to destroy an entire Galaxy with no problem. Of course he has never done it to someone like Superman, as he has never encountered someone like Superman but based on the energy absorbing capabilities of Mjolnir it shouldn't be out of Thor's capabilities. At the very least it's a possibility. Thor has been shown draining the energy of an opponent before.