Surfer, Thor, Superman 3-Way Deathmatch

Originally posted by Master Court You're giving me the sh*ts, and I'm running low on toiler paper now.
You're wrong, you'll always be wrong, and you've been wrong your whole life. Believe me; I've been making calls, writing letters, doing research, and I couldn't find one moment in your life where you were right. I mean, I've been wrong before. Like when I chose to save my grandmother over my Dwayne Wade jersey, but I most certainly was not wrong about Thor. He's mighty. He's powerful. He's hung like an elephant. But Hulk's stronger than him. You giving me sh*t is like a nat gnawing on a zit; indefensibly irritating while altogether insignificant. And now I've got the runs. And I'm low on toilet paper and water. You know how much you have to drink to avoid dehydration when you have the runs? You're costing me money, and water, and toilet paper. And sometimes, when I pass the point of no return, when toilet paper won't cover the damage, I even have to take showers. So it's also costing me soap. And sometimes shampoo.

So for the love of L Ron, let go of Thor's little-Mjolnir, and let him fight his own battles.

sly

I’m going to ignore the rest of your post. Normally I would reply with some normal insults, but really you aren’t worth it.

fu

The Hulk is stronger than Thor? My friend, you have yet to prove so. You state it as if it was some type of fact, yet there are no showings to prove so. If he was stronger he would have proven it in the test of strength they had, where Thor and him were deadlocked for entire hours on end despite his ever increasing anger/strength with Thor showing no signs of tiring. That’s on top of Thor restraining himself against mortals.

Let him fight his own battles? facepalm

I’m not going to bother.

Originally posted by Master Court Surfer wins because he's awesome, has more cosmic power than you could shake a grandmother at, he can't be drained physically, mentally, or power-wise, he's needs no sustenance, he can heal all damage in seconds. He can even tag-team with his board against Thor, amp his own strength, detect the minute energy fluctuations when Thor is about to fire energy blasts of any kind or his God Blast and therefore avoid it, transmute his own board into Uru metal so Thor's hammer can't hurt it, make himself intangible and let his board do all the dirty work. You get it? Surfer can do practically anything. He's more godlike than standard Thor will ever be. And Superman, I like him and all, but I think Surfer can probably eat him for breakfast. As unlikely or OOC it is for Surfer to do any of this sh*t, there's no reason he can't if he felt truly hard-pressed to win by killing his opponents. Surfer, using every little power in his arsenal to their maximum extent, has a very high chance of taking this.

You made a list about what Silver Surfer could theoretically do? That’s great, too bad despite him not holding back, Thor has handed him his ass twice. I’ll play along…..

Yes, because Thor is also susceptible to physical and mental drainage right? He isn’t. Thor can fight hours, weeks, and countless months on end without any sustenance. Sustenance isn’t a problem for him. Thor can use Mjolnir to heal the damage he has taken as well if needed. Thor can just as easily control Mjolnir with his will. Not the extent Silver Surfer can with his board, but he could do so as well. Living his board even just for a moment would make his mobility extremely lacking. That would be fatal. Amp his own strength? That’s amazing. When he amps it to a level beyond Thor, then we can talk. Thor if needed can amp his strength extremely as well. He can detect such minute energy fluctuations with Mjolnir specifically? Prove it. Would that do him any good, if Thor releases omni-directional attacks? Matter manipulation against Thor with Mjolnir? Good luck. That’s great except intangibility doesn’t make you safe against Thor, and Thor can also turn intangible/invisible. You get it? Thor can do practically anything as well, and has higher defensive/offensive abilities, plus superior power output. That’s funny. If he was so much more godlike than Classic Thor, then he wouldn’t have any problem beating him. Oh wait.

You want me to make a list of things Thor has done that Silver Surfer has not? I can, as you still need to learn more about Thor. Everything from Thor containing a blast that would have destroyed 1/5 of the Universe, one shotting Ego with a Universal shaking attack, one shotting a being that is beyond Odin, one shotting Galactus, giving pause and even harming a powerful Celestial would be included.…..

Yes the Silver Surfer does have a very good chance of taking this. That's why he is closely behind Thor in this fight. They are extremely close, but Thor simply edges him out and has superior power output. It wouldn’t be easy, but at the end of the day Thor will be the last man standing. An argument can obviously made for Norrin, and I can see him taking a few ins, but not the majority. Like I said an argument could be made, but unfortunately you aren’t doing it in my opinion…..

Thor comes in first, followed closely by the Silver Surfer and then Superman in this bout.

Originally posted by Starscream M
the way many people think is retarded

Oh, Superman has weakness to red sunlight --> Silver Surfer can possibly create red sunlight --> Silver Surfer for the easy win (the fact is, Superman would never allow Surfer the breathing room to first analyze Superman's weaknesses and then to exploit it)

People also dismiss Superman's advantages as if they were minor...guys like RageofOlympus completely underestimate Superman's speed

Outside of Flashes, no one in comics uses speed anywhere close to Superman, and I would argue Superman uses speed more effectively than Flashes because he combines power and flight as well

I would say with the stakes given, Superman is the odds on favorite imo

Odds on favorite? Gimme a freaking break. Surfer would hardly need any time to scan supes biology and recognize his weakness to red sunlight considering his mental speed. And the way u say exploit it, u make it sound like blasting red sunlight is some big thing. Surfer has both the movement speed and reactions to match superman in battle so that wont be a problem. And before u get int the nonsense about him never using it or whatever, he HAS and DOES use it (as seen even as recently as his fight with BRB). Further regardless of that, CIS is off in this battle so he wil be using all his abilities to the fullest with his speed being one of them.

Surfer could use red sunlight blasts throughout the entire battle and considering his power output it would be hell for supes. Not only that he could also be continuously draining the energy from supes cells which would spell even more trouble.

In a regular match is one thing (still strange but manageable) but to think that supes is the favorite in a match with CIS off against an opponenet like surfer who has a truck load of powers and way more potent options both offensively and defensively than he does is pretty ridiculous indeed.

hmm, I didn't see that CIS was off.

I still think Superman is by far the best fighter out of the 3, whereas Surfer has the best powerset. And Thor has the most powerful attack (but I think its useless in this fight).

I saw how badly Surfer embarrassed BRB, but that was high showing...he has demonstrated that degree of power consistently. Also it was a very brief encounter with some unique circumstances.

I guess I'm a little undecided bet Surfer and Superman for first, and Thor comes last imo.

I really doubt Silver Surfer will need any time to scan Superman's biology. With his abilities he should do it with a look. On top of his cosmic awareness, his ability to process information and decipher it is ridiculous. I recall him casually plotting his course by calculating/mapping an entire region of space (Galaxies I believe) in a moment while traveling at light speed or something along those lines.

Originally posted by Starscream M
hmm, I didn't see that CIS was off.

I still think Superman is by far the best fighter out of the 3

I guess I'm a little undecided bet Surfer and Superman for first, and Thor comes last imo.

Superman by far the best fighter out of the 3? You do remember that Thor is one of those 3 right? The Thor whose countless of years old, and has been fighting in combat constantly while man was still in caves?

Thor comes in last? I would like to see you prove that.

Originally posted by Starscream M
the way many people think is retarded

Oh, Superman has weakness to magic --> Thor has magic --> Therefore, Thor should beat Superman (the fact is, a punch by thor is still just a punch, a hit with Mjolnir is still just a hit, only if Thor actually pulls out attacks of magical nature (godblast) will it do significant damage to Superman...and guess what, godblast has no chance in hell of hitting someone as fast as Superman)

It has nothing to do with Thor's origins being mystical but with Thor simply being more powerful. I haven't see anyone try to use that as a legit argument. Mjolnir is only a blunt force object unless Thor uses it to channel his power or anything along those lines. Still, we have seen that magically enchanted weapons do harm Superman a lot easier than normal weapons. Wonder Woman's tiara comes to mind.

Only if Thor pulls out attacks like the God Blast will he do significant damage to Superman? Lol, the God Blast if it hits Superman is a one shot attack. Thor has plenty of other attacks like the Thermoblast, Anti-Force and so on that would put down Superman. Hell, Thor's raw power is so great, he one shotted Beta Ray Bill, and was tossing around Silver Surfer, and the likes by simply unleashing his power.

Originally posted by Starscream M
Oh, Superman has weakness to red sunlight --> Silver Surfer can possibly create red sunlight --> Silver Surfer for the easy win (the fact is, Superman would never allow Surfer the breathing room to first analyze Superman's weaknesses and then to exploit it)

With his abilities the Silver Surfer doesn't need any breathing room from Superman to do so.

Originally posted by Starscream M
People also dismiss Superman's advantages as if they were minor...guys like RageofOlympus completely underestimate Superman's speed

Completely underestimate Superman? I don't underestimate him. I clearly admitted he has superior speed. Far superior, but it's not as if Thor can't handle it with his reflexes.

Your the one spouting nonsense about Superman somehow having a decent strength and durability advantage over Thor, which by the way you haven't proven yet.

Originally posted by Starscream M
Outside of Flashes, no one in comics uses speed anywhere close to Superman, and I would argue Superman uses speed more effectively than Flashes because he combines power and flight as well

Wonder Woman has superior combat movement, just off the top of my head.

More effectively than the Flash because he combines power and flight? What the hell does Flash do? He utilizes not only his speed but a vast array of speed stemming abilities along with his speed. His speed usage is vastly more effective than Superman. Don't even try and pull that.. Oh, he can also fly, and if the difference between running/flight from everybody else is anything to go off, the Flash's speed while flying, would just be, well unfair. To everyone.

Originally posted by Starscream M
I would say with the stakes given, Superman is the odds on favorite imo

That's your opinion, so whatever....

rageofolympus, I gotta go to work...but I'll debunk your ridiculous nonsense later

Originally posted by Starscream M
hmm, I didn't see that CIS was off.

I still think Superman is by far the best fighter out of the 3, whereas Surfer has the best powerset. And Thor has the most powerful attack (but I think its useless in this fight).

I saw how badly Surfer embarrassed BRB, but that was high showing...he has demonstrated that degree of power consistently. Also it was a very brief encounter with some unique circumstances.

I guess I'm a little undecided bet Surfer and Superman for first, and Thor comes last imo.

Saying that he is the best fighter hardly explains how superman is supposed to win here. Surfer has simply to many offensive options for him to contend with outside of a plot driven environment. Add the fact that CIS is off which means that surfer can use those options in the most effective ways possible (een the wackiest of tactics which surfer would never use within a comic are viable in this case) and the outcome is sealed.

Supermans best and pretty much only way of taking out surfer is by physically taking him out (heat vision is extremely ineffective against someone with surfers durability and energy absorption capabilities and ice breath is even more ineffective ). However, surfer is extremely durable physically,has extremely powerful forcefieldsand can also become intangible to counter such physical blows etc. On the other hand Surfer can use multiple methods of attack which will be much more effective on superman from using red sunlight blasts, and energy draining, to simply not holding back with regular energy blasts. All of these would be more effective methods of attack the the physical approach which supes would employ.

Its pretty straightforward

Originally posted by Starscream M
rageofolympus, I gotta go to work...but I'll debunk your ridiculous nonsense later

I'll be waiting, Brucie. Have a good day at work. Just don't post scans of the Wrecker getting his ass kicked and try and claim it's Thor when you get back.

😉

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Just don't post scans of the Wrecker getting his ass kicked and try and claim it's Thor when you get back.

Originally posted by Starscream M
😂 don't worry about that

I had a heart attack from laughing so damn hard when you did it the first time. Lol.

Anyways good luck at work. I'm going to head to bed and catch some sleep. My headache died down.

haermm @ people still insisting Surfer, and especially Thor, will be able to handle Superman's speed and at people confusing no CIS with "I'm in control of my character's powerset and multi-task abilities in a way that Surfer hasn't ever been able to do".

In that case, I'll go invisible & intangible while zooming around the battlefield at >lightspeed and constantly modifying the vibrational frequency my body operates so that there's no possible way anything will ever touch me while, in the meantime, I either use T-Vo or a multiversal counter-frequency to erase both of you from the face of creation like Superman has done to Darkseid in Final Crisis. Or just punch you to death.

This is fun. dur

Originally posted by Master Court
I've seen too many awkward scenarios and crap, so I'm laying it all out. Some uber-entity nabs Silver Surfer, Superman, and Thor, and throws them on an isolated planet they can't destroy and can't leave. The planet is no bigger than frigging Rhode Island.

If Surfer loses, his home planet will be destroyed(I don't recall if it's already destroyed or resurrected in recent continuity, but let's pretend regardless).
If Superman loses, Earth will be destroyed.
If Thor loses, Asgard will be destroyed(let's pretend again).

They will fight ALL OUT. They will use every, any, and all powers at their disposal, regardless of what's in or out of character. No BFR. No prep. Standard gear. Current incarnations. They hit/shoot/and aim to kill.

Who finally wins?

with asgard's survival at stake, thor goes mad with warrior madness and beats superman and surfer to death at the same time.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

...Thor's stated that he can damage Adamantium though and has as I recall.

...Thor can fight hours, weeks, and countless months on end without any sustenance. Sustenance isn’t a problem for him.

...Thor can use Mjolnir to heal the damage he has taken as well if needed.

...Thor if needed can amp his strength extremely as well.

...he could just use Mjolnir to say, become intangible...Thor can also turn intangible/invisible.

...Thor can do practically anything as well

Can Thor actually do all this? I mean, I've read a lot of Thor and I know the guy has shown a lot of powers over the years (some of which were never seen again) but I can't remember all this. Are there examples? Particularly the intangibility/invisibility and healing stuff?

Erm, I don't like 3-way matches. You are likely to have 2 people gang up on the other and in this case, whoever the unlucky person is gets bounced.

Anyway, SS > Thor > Supes I think.

Originally posted by Starscream M
rageofolympus, I gotta go to work...but I'll debunk your ridiculous nonsense later

Originally posted by Philosophía
haermm @ people still insisting Surfer, and especially Thor, will be able to handle Superman's speed and at people confusing no CIS with "I'm in control of my character's powerset and multi-task abilities in a way that Surfer hasn't ever been able to do".

In that case, I'll go invisible & intangible while zooming around the battlefield at >lightspeed and constantly modifying the vibrational frequency my body operates so that there's no possible way anything will ever touch me while, in the meantime, I either use T-Vo or a multiversal counter-frequency to erase both of you from the face of creation like Superman has done to Darkseid in Final Crisis. Or just punch you to death.

This is fun. dur

👆

Originally posted by Philosophía
In that case, I'll go invisible & intangible while zooming around the battlefield at >lightspeed and constantly modifying the vibrational frequency my body operates so that there's no possible way anything will ever touch me while, in the meantime, I either use T-Vo or a multiversal counter-frequency to erase both of you from the face of creation like Superman has done to Darkseid in Final Crisis. Or just punch you to death.

Ftw.

Originally posted by Philosophía
haermm @ people still insisting Surfer, and especially Thor, will be able to handle Superman's speed and at people confusing no CIS with "I'm in control of my character's powerset and multi-task abilities in a way that Surfer hasn't ever been able to do".

In that case, I'll go invisible & intangible while zooming around the battlefield at >lightspeed and constantly modifying the vibrational frequency my body operates so that there's no possible way anything will ever touch me while, in the meantime, I either use T-Vo or a multiversal counter-frequency to erase both of you from the face of creation like Superman has done to Darkseid in Final Crisis. Or just punch you to death.

This is fun. dur

😂

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i love the way people see superman as a brick with no chance in this fight (bruce aside).

phil takes this superman thing a liiiitle too personally.