Originally posted by psycho gundam
true, but only when it's vs superman a problem arises.there is superman hate on this forum, but in this thread, superman potentially losing (not due to some of the crazy stuff said here) isn't really far fetched at all.
No, but the Surfer wanking is, at times, incredibly ridiculous on this forum. So much so that it becomes laughable.
He may only point it out when Superman is involved, but it just echoes how SS is portrayed as a whole.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
well, if you're going to start a post off with: "i love it when___",*inert cam'ron.gif*
Pr does it too 😛
always
and this thread is the ultimate tear jerker for all of them.
i just agree with batdude. the fact that i don't tend to post in surfer threads is an indication of how right philo is, even though i've read almost every surfer comic ever published and love the guy to death.
it gets severely out of hand, and tbh, i don't want to be seen to be adding weight to what are ridiculous arguments at times.
Originally posted by batdude123
Pr is a different story though. He creams his pants whenever he sees Superman is involved in a thread.
only when you post in them.
Originally posted by Naija boy
Saying that he is the best fighter hardly explains how superman is supposed to win here. Surfer has simply to many offensive options for him to contend with outside of a plot driven environment. Add the fact that CIS is off which means that surfer can use those options in the most effective ways possible (een the wackiest of tactics which surfer would never use within a comic are viable in this case) and the outcome is sealed.Supermans best and pretty much only way of taking out surfer is by physically taking him out (heat vision is extremely ineffective against someone with surfers durability and energy absorption capabilities and ice breath is even more ineffective ). However, surfer is extremely durable physically,has extremely powerful forcefieldsand can also become intangible to counter such physical blows etc. On the other hand Surfer can use multiple methods of attack which will be much more effective on superman from using red sunlight blasts, and energy draining, to simply not holding back with regular energy blasts. All of these would be more effective methods of attack the the physical approach which supes would employ.
Its pretty straightforward
heat vision is extremely ineffective against someone with surfers durability and energy absorption capabilities
Good points. You can explain it all day but some people just believe what they want to believe. Some people still cling to the old speed blitz ,physical strength and duribility feats . If this was purely a slug fest its go superman,thor then surfer. With all powers being used, its prolly a tie between surfer and thor and supes goes down. Supes is to limited here. The other 2 can do anything supes can and more (for the most part). heat vision and cold breath and super hearing are of no value against thor and surfer.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
exactly.these three characters + no c.i.s. is bait.
to get mad at stuff said in this thread is ironic since the more ridiculous shit will be said here since cis is gone.
You could replace no CIS from my post with no PIS (the board's regular rules) and the point still stands.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
slyI’m going to ignore the rest of your post. Normally I would reply with some normal insults, but really you aren’t worth it.
fu
The Hulk is stronger than Thor? My friend, you have yet to prove so. You state it as if it was some type of fact, yet there are no showings to prove so. If he was stronger he would have proven it in the test of strength they had, where Thor and him were deadlocked for entire hours on end despite his ever increasing anger/strength with Thor showing no signs of tiring. That’s on top of Thor restraining himself against mortals.
Let him fight his own battles? facepalm
I’m not going to bother.
You made a list about what Silver Surfer could theoretically do? That’s great, too bad despite him not holding back, Thor has handed him his ass twice. I’ll play along…..
Yes, because Thor is also susceptible to physical and mental drainage right? He isn’t. Thor can fight hours, weeks, and countless months on end without any sustenance. Sustenance isn’t a problem for him. Thor can use Mjolnir to heal the damage he has taken as well if needed. Thor can just as easily control Mjolnir with his will. Not the extent Silver Surfer can with his board, but he could do so as well. Living his board even just for a moment would make his mobility extremely lacking. That would be fatal. Amp his own strength? That’s amazing. When he amps it to a level beyond Thor, then we can talk. Thor if needed can amp his strength extremely as well. He can detect such minute energy fluctuations with Mjolnir specifically? Prove it. Would that do him any good, if Thor releases omni-directional attacks? Matter manipulation against Thor with Mjolnir? Good luck. That’s great except intangibility doesn’t make you safe against Thor, and Thor can also turn intangible/invisible. You get it? Thor can do practically anything as well, and has higher defensive/offensive abilities, plus superior power output. That’s funny. If he was so much more godlike than Classic Thor, then he wouldn’t have any problem beating him. Oh wait.
You want me to make a list of things Thor has done that Silver Surfer has not? I can, as you still need to learn more about Thor. Everything from Thor containing a blast that would have destroyed 1/5 of the Universe, one shotting Ego with a Universal shaking attack, one shotting a being that is beyond Odin, one shotting Galactus, giving pause and even harming a powerful Celestial would be included.…..
Yes the Silver Surfer does have a very good chance of taking this. That's why he is closely behind Thor in this fight. They are extremely close, but Thor simply edges him out and has superior power output. It wouldn’t be easy, but at the end of the day Thor will be the last man standing. An argument can obviously made for Norrin, and I can see him taking a few ins, but not the majority. Like I said an argument could be made, but unfortunately you aren’t doing it in my opinion…..
Thor comes in first, followed closely by the Silver Surfer and then Superman in this bout.
Ok, let's keep your warrior madness on the other forum. I mean, this is very engrossing stuff, like when I managed to argue catsh*t off my carpet and into a litter box in just over 42 minutes, but I'd rather not juggle your rants. You seem a tad more dense than catsh*t.
My point about Surfer is very logical. His powers are not object, place, person, or condition/circumstance specific. When he shows the ability to transmute something, that's an entire power. He can transmute damn near anything. When he shows the ability to drain energy of any kind, he can drain damn near any energy. That said, going all out, Surfer could/should beat Thor with the maximum of all his powers. Not 10/10, but easily very possible.
Anyway, that was my previous point, but as somebody has since pointed out; if Thor were fighting for Asgard's very existence, he'd easily go apesh*t, and he'd be quite a handful at that point. But then I wonder; barring the rare occasion where Surfer's drained of or separated from the power cosmic, can he even be killed?
So, yeah, I'm still not sure on the winner here. But that's why I made the thread. I'm leaning towards Surfer, but I'll wait and see what points can be made. I'm thinking higher on Superman's part as well.
Originally posted by Master Court
Ok, let's keep your warrior madness on the other forum. I mean, this is very engrossing stuff, like when I managed to argue catsh*t off my carpet and into a litter box in just over 42 minutes, but I'd rather not juggle your rants. You seem a tad more dense than catsh*t.
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Originally posted by Master Court Ok, let's keep your warrior madness on the other forum. I mean, this is very engrossing stuff, like when I managed to argue catsh*t off my carpet and into a litter box in just over 42 minutes, but I'd rather not juggle your rants. You seem a tad more dense than catsh*t.
What rants? I am making valid arguments that you attempt to ignore. Cut the crap and stick to the topic at hand.
Originally posted by Master Court My point about Surfer is very logical. His powers are not object, place, person, or condition/circumstance specific. When he shows the ability to transmute something, that's an entire power. He can transmute damn near anything. When he shows the ability to drain energy of any kind, he can drain damn near any energy. That said, going all out, Surfer could/should beat Thor with the maximum of all his powers. Not 10/10, but easily very possible.
You keep listing feats as if Thor has not accomplished something similar. He has shown transmutation feats in the past. He can transmute damn near anything, except well you know Thor with Mjolnir in hand. He can drain energy? That’s great. Thor has drained enough energy to destroy an entire damn Galaxy with ease. You keep listing feats as if they have any bearing on this fight.
Could Silver Surfer beat Thor? Yes. Should he? I would say no, and he hasn’t. It’s possible for him to win. Thor doesn’t win every fight but he does win the majority in my opinion. He has beaten a not holding back Silver Surfer before.
Originally posted by Master Court Anyway, that was my previous point, but as somebody has since pointed out; if Thor were fighting for Asgard's very existence, he'd easily go apesh*t, and he'd be quite a handful at that point. But then I wonder; barring the rare occasion where Surfer's drained of or separated from the power cosmic, can he even be killed?
Apeshit and quite a handful is an understatement. In Warrior Madness, these two could double team him and they would still get shit stomped. Thor just being paranoid, showed how much he truly holds back as he was beating the utter shit out of Silver Surfer, Beta Ray Bill, Maxam, Drax with the Power Gem, Adam Warlock and so on.
Yes the Silver Surfer is to susceptible to death, and is definitely susceptible to a knock out.
Originally posted by Master Court So, yeah, I'm still not sure on the winner here. But that's why I made the thread. I'm leaning towards Surfer, but I'll wait and see what points can be made. I'm thinking higher on Superman's part as well.
I’m sure on the winner. I say Thor takes it. Not easily, and not all the time obviously. Clearly an argument could be made, and I see these two being close but Thor wins, followed closely by Silver Surfer and then Superman.
Originally posted by basilisk
Can Thor actually do all this? I mean, I've read a lot of Thor and I know the guy has shown a lot of powers over the years (some of which were never seen again) but I can't remember all this. Are there examples? Particularly the intangibility/invisibility and healing stuff?
Yes Thor can do all that was listed.
Yes he can heal. He has healed beings from severe injuries and I even recall him healing someone on the brink of death in a moment. He even healed a bed ridden severely ill/wounded Sif in a moment, but I don't recall of she was dying or not though.
He has even turned others intangible/invisible. I recall him doing so to his fellow Avenger. Doing so is no problem.
Originally posted by Philosophía😆
haermm @ people still insisting Surfer, and especially Thor, will be able to handle Superman's speed and at people confusing no CIS with "I'm in control of my character's powerset and multi-task abilities in a way that Surfer hasn't ever been able to do".In that case, I'll go invisible & intangible while zooming around the battlefield at >lightspeed and constantly modifying the vibrational frequency my body operates so that there's no possible way anything will ever touch me while, in the meantime, I either use T-Vo or a multiversal counter-frequency to erase both of you from the face of creation like Superman has done to Darkseid in Final Crisis. Or just punch you to death.
This is fun. dur
Didn't you know? It only works for Marvel characters.