X-men vs. Magneto

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Original Smurph tu quoqumber

Emma and Jean for the combined mental assault.

Likely wouldn't do anything, but there's no combo here that would win.

psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

^ what about nightcrawler and gambit?

NC teleports himself and gambit to where magneto is and gambit charges his helmet with as much power as he can. *shrugs*

swapping NC with psylock using the same stratagem also works i guess.

Philosophía "The devil made me do it"

Nightcrawler surprising Magneto with teleportation ? Heh.

batdude123 Fellow Tu Quoqumber

Originally posted by psycho gundam
^ what about nightcrawler and gambit?

NC teleports himself and gambit to where magneto is and gambit charges his helmet with as much power as he can. *shrugs*

swapping NC with psylock using the same stratagem also works i guess.

No.

Survivor19 Senior Member

Yes, in best case NC teleporting on magneto will result in Eric's fist in Kurt's face...

Mshinu Star for a Brain

Mags beats any 2 of those in seconds, none of them are able to put up anything remotely like a "fight"

thanos-prime Senior Member

Originally posted by Parmaniac
ok just a theory really just a THEORY:

Wouldn't it possible that Nightcrawler teleports behind his shields?
if yes go on readin, if not just stop!

then he could take his helmet (or his whole head) and teleport away again, then Jean starts a Mind attack in him? Or he grabs Rogue and teleports them behind his shields and she sucks him dry?

mind attacks wont work Xavier and jean combined couldn't mind rape him eh don't think the rouge part could work cause he has to teleport to get her and by that time erik would have figured it out

Survivor19 Senior Member

Xavier and jean combined couldn't mind rape

O RLY?
Are you forgetting that Xavier mindraped him all by himself after that?
They had trouble when trying to brainwash him and force to surrender during the mid-battle. They were working around his personality and memories, not trying to fry his mind or something. Of course that was hard, what did you expect?

peejayd Senior Member

Originally posted by Sasaraixx
The X-men need to go and stop a disaster before it can occur. Magneto, has other plans however. Professor X needs two members to stay behind and stall Magneto until the team can accomplish the mission. Which 2 X-men would put up the strongest opposition?

Current versions of all characters (Classic Jean) and they fight in character. Which team of 2 would you choose?

* Cyclops can stall Magneto with his constant barrage of blasts... then Frost/Grey/Psylocke can mess with his mind... 🙂

peejayd Senior Member
Originally posted by Peterlane
Cyclops powers don't do shit to Magento because he can easily control the beams.

* Magneto cannot control Cyclops' blasts...

Originally posted by batdude123
Uh... what? 🤨

The only time Cyclops' blast has EVER pierced Magneto's shield was in the very first X-Men issue. Back when Magneto was A LOT less powerful.

Also, even in that instance, Magneto wasn't keeping his focus on the shield, which was the reason why Cyclops was able to penetrate it anyway.

* given the scenario, all they have to do is to keep Magneto at bay and Cyclops' constant barrage of blasts can do the job because Magneto needs to concentrate on his shields, then any of the telepaths (Frost/Grey/Psylocke) can mess with his mind...

Creshosk Senior Member
Originally posted by peejayd
* Magneto cannot control Cyclops' blasts...
peejayd Senior Member
Originally posted by Creshosk

* that's new... i didn't know that... my bad... 😛

Survivor19 Senior Member

Don't let the irrelevant scan worry you, peejayd.
1. There is no Magneto controlling Cyclops' blasts there.
2. Everyone knows Scott's blasts are involuntary. At least were before that Astonishing arc.

Creshosk Senior Member

Re: X-men vs. Magneto

Originally posted by Sasaraixx
The X-men need to go and stop a disaster before it can occur. Magneto, has other plans however. Professor X needs two members to stay behind and stall Magneto until the team can accomplish the mission. Which 2 X-men would put up the strongest opposition?

Current versions of all characters (Classic Jean) and they fight in character. Which team of 2 would you choose?

Cyclops
Storm
Emma Frost
Psylocke
Nightcrawler
Jean Grey (no PF)
Rogue
Gambit

None of them.

Aside from Emma frost not being present in the fight, While Xavier was this fight's been done and then some.
X-Men Volume 2 issue #25. Magneto shows up catching everyone including Xavier and Jean grey off guard. He slipped through their defenses. And he pinned everyone present X-Men and X-factor alike. Making it so they couldn't use their powers. Then he casually kills one of his minions with his own power. Then proceeds to lecture his hostages.

If it weren't for Bishop... But I notice he's not on the list.

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Survivor19
Don't let the irrelevant scan worry you, peejayd.
1. There is no Magneto controlling Cyclops' blasts there.
2. Everyone knows Scott's blasts are involuntary. At least were before that Astonishing arc.
Which is why Cyclops was able to use them in that situation right?

Oh look, Nightcrawler, Cyclops, Classic levels Jean grey all being held magnetically.

Survivor19 Senior Member

Ok, what should have persuaded me he is being held magnetically in that scan, hmm?
I don't see anything suggesting other that he is a jerk who doesn't care about - how was his name again, Senyaka? Who doesn't care about that guy being executed.
😛
Then again, you keep forgetting that preventing someone from using his abilities is not the same as controlling them. Or you'd say Magneto can control astral plane, ecause he can render Xavier effectively powerless?

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Survivor19
Ok, what should have persuaded me he is being held magnetically in that scan, hmm?
I don't see anything suggesting other that he is a jerk who doesn't care about - how was his name again, Senyaka? Who doesn't care about that guy being executed.
😛
Then again, you keep forgetting that preventing someone from using his abilities is not the same as controlling them. Or you'd say Magneto can control astral plane, ecause he can render Xavier effectively powerless?
Cyclops power is useless, because Magneto can control the beams coming out.

In this issue after Bishop blasts Magneto into the chapel, he stands up floats up in the air rogue flys up to try ans steal his power with a kiss. She gets a bit, before she's cut off, she's confused and he casually throws her into Gambit.

Scratch those two off the list of being a threat to him.

The others have been powering Bishop up who starts opening blast on magneto. Then Jean grey reveals that the space station avalon was being held together by magneto... Who taking being blasted by Bishop(With Cyclops, storm, polaris, havok, jean grey and jubilee's energy signatures in him) Sunspot, gambit and Iceman.

So while taking the attack from them, he's also barely (slightly failing) to hold together a space station.

I think its important to remember who Magneto is. He was always a Team-Killer.

Survivor19 Senior Member

Yes, he is.
Though Xavier had a cool moment in that arc too, didn't he?

Creshosk Senior Member

Originally posted by Survivor19
Yes, he is.
Though Xavier had a cool moment in that arc too, didn't he?
The arc? Fatal attractions gave Xavier several. that very comic book where he finally gets through magnetos defenses after the previously mentioned beating Xavier crawls over to hi climbs up him and takes over his mind, and using Magneto's own powers levitates them up into the atmosphere before the tucks Magneto into Avalon and then magnetically hurls it into space.

Thene there's wolverine 75 where Xavier mindwipe's magneto after Magneto got stabbed by Wolvie, then ripped wolvie's adamantium out. This did give way to the cration of onslaught who was pretty much a plot device to enact the heroes reborn storylines.

It was a cool arc that had those special hologram covers. Sadly this was also the death of the little girl Illyana.

I hear she's back now though.

peejayd Senior Member

* Bishop made a valid argument here before he was interrupted... if Magneto is magnetically gripping the iron fibers in their blood and they have no way of "consciously" accessing their mutant abilities, what if the mutant ability is involuntary like Cyclops', who can't control discharging his blasts? 😕