X-men vs. Magneto

Originally posted by Survivor19
O RLY?
Are you forgetting that Xavier mindraped him all by himself after that?
They had trouble when trying to brainwash him and force to surrender during the mid-battle. They were working around his personality and memories, not trying to fry his mind or something. Of course that was hard, what did you expect?

Originally posted by Philosophía
Nightcrawler surprising Magneto with teleportation ? Heh.

Originally posted by batdude123
No.

my bad, i didn't know he was that sensitive.

Originally posted by peejayd
* Bishop made a valid argument here before he was interrupted... if Magneto is magnetically gripping the iron fibers in their blood and they have no way of "consciously" accessing their mutant abilities, what if the mutant ability is involuntary like Cyclops', who can't control discharging his blasts? 😕

Oh wait, no this is cyclops NOT firing his optic blasts.

Bishop was absorbing the energy of being held, and since he doesn't have the visor that he has to open, when he reached his limit he automatically discharged.

Cyclops on the other hand has no such luck. He has a visor preventing him from auto discharge that he can't activate.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
there very inconsistent that way i remember another instance where xavier tried to mind rape him in his sleep magneto woke up and fought him off, and then another where xavier concentrated all his power into mind raping magneto but he couldn't

Originally posted by Creshosk
The time Xavier HAD done the mind rape not only was he still through force of will keeping Avalon together and up in orbit, but he had just been slashed by wolverine.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
it is still inconsistent magneto has more showings resisting xavier than getting mind raped by him

Are Cyclops blasts light speed? I dont think so, but some people believe it to be so

Originally posted by Creshosk
What I'm saying is that its when he's already in a weakened state that it happens. That's the only explanation as to why it happens at all.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
being one of the most powerful physics on the planet its not the great of a feat but being caught off guard when your sleeping is espically when you have no physic powers to fight back with he fought him off with pure will power

Originally posted by Creshosk
I'm not saying its a viable strategy. I'm just saying that whenever it happened it wasn't like at the start of any fight. It certainly doesn't seem like a viable option here considering that aside from Psylocke and Emma frost. This fight already happened and Magneto basically won. Even with Psylocke and Emma, its not going to happen, since Professor Xavier wasn't present at the time as well as a number of others not on the list.

Originally posted by Creshosk
The time Xavier HAD done the mind rape not only was he still through force of will keeping Avalon together and up in orbit, but he had just been slashed by wolverine.

If Mags was weakened by anything (TP resistance-wise), that would be combined Grey & Xavier mental assault earlier.

Originally posted by Survivor19
You are wrong, because Mags wasn't holding anything by his force of will or whatever.
I'd like to point out nothing happened to Avalon with Magneto's brain-bleaching, since it was built well and on stable orbit. I mean, until that incident with Holocaust.

If Mags was weakened by anything (TP resistance-wise), that would be combined Grey & Xavier mental assault earlier.

And then they left, and then the base was totally fine.
Inconsistensy much?

Originally posted by Peterlane
Are Cyclops blasts light speed? I dont think so, but some people believe it to be so

Originally posted by Survivor19
And then they left, and then the base was totally fine.
Inconsistensy much?

This does cause a problem with air pressure variance.. but I think I'll go with what was stated on panel.

If wolverine was in the list then I'm sure he'd do fiiiiine against Mags

Originally posted by Mindset
There's an old scan that says they are.

Naw... that's a stretch.

Speaking of stretch I think it was in an event they did with the fantastic four. They needed to his something with Cyclops's optic blast, that was far away through a convoluted place to get to. Reed stretched his arm through the hole to where it needed to be while Sue encased it in a forcefield, then Cyclops's optic blast traveling at the speed of light through the forcefield shot what he needed.

Originally posted by Creshosk
an attack that has all the properties of light having the property of the speed of light...

Naw... that's a stretch.

Speaking of stretch I think it was in an event they did with the fantastic four. They needed to his something with Cyclops's optic blast, that was far away through a convoluted place to get to. Reed stretched his arm through the hole to where it needed to be while Sue encased it in a forcefield, then Cyclops's optic blast traveling at the speed of light through the forcefield shot what he needed.

Originally posted by Mindset
OK.

Originally posted by Creshosk
an attack that has all the properties of light having the property of the speed of light...

Naw... that's a stretch.

Speaking of stretch I think it was in an event they did with the fantastic four. They needed to his something with Cyclops's optic blast, that was far away through a convoluted place to get to. Reed stretched his arm through the hole to where it needed to be while Sue encased it in a forcefield, then Cyclops's optic blast traveling at the speed of light through the forcefield shot what he needed.

Well it seems to have been retconned because he was blitzed at the speed of light buy Aurora. And the scan said Speed of Light>Optic blasts in speed.