Originally posted by Creshoski told you many he has also dodged lasers you want some scans?
Not quite what I meant, as Wolverine has cut bullets out of the air. That would still be about the same as timing to get out of the way of the bullet. Just the reverse is all and putting something in the path.Though its kind of silly considering how much force bullets have.
Which means I'll have to ask again. how many times has he done it?
Originally posted by thanos-primeI'm not saying he hasn't. I'm just saying that it needs to have been over a certain number of times for it to be believable for me that he could do it. Because you're sort of not understanding that without superspeed he shouldn't be able to move at 1500m/s and without suprstrength he shouldn't be able to bat bullets out of the air.
i told you many he has also dodged lasers you want some scans?
But if he's done it enough times then its acceptable. otherwise its writers not understanding the physics involved and having characters do things beyond their powerset limitations.
Originally posted by Creshoskwhat you don't seem to understand is that you can't always apply physics to the comic world street levelers are always doing things classified as superhuman
I'm not saying he hasn't. I'm just saying that it needs to have been over a certain number of times for it to be believable for me that he could do it. Because you're sort of not understanding that without superspeed he shouldn't be able to move at 1500m/s and without suprstrength he shouldn't be able to bat bullets out of the air.But if he's done it enough times then its acceptable. otherwise its writers not understanding the physics involved and having characters do things beyond their powerset limitations.
Originally posted by batdude123
They dodge his aim/field of vision.
when with his aim, they really shouldn't.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Just like the street level guys dodge bullets. its not because they're faster than bullets, its because they're faster than the guy with the gun.Unless you really think that guys like Wolverine, and Dardevil and Batman can move at speeds greater than 1500 m/s.
But I don't think that they can move at 355 mph. I do think they can move faster than normal people can react.
Same concept. people who dodge cyclops aren't moving at superliminal speeds. They're just getting out of the way before his visor opens and before he starts to make it open.
i know. i still dont think the blast is lightspeed, though.
Re: X-men vs. Magneto
Originally posted by Sasaraixx
The X-men need to go and stop a disaster before it can occur. Magneto, has other plans however. Professor X needs two members to stay behind and stall Magneto until the team can accomplish the mission. Which 2 X-men would put up the strongest opposition?Current versions of all characters (Classic Jean) and they fight in character. Which team of 2 would you choose?
Cyclops
Storm
Emma Frost
Psylocke
Nightcrawler
Jean Grey (no PF)
Rogue
Gambit
rogue and jean grey. maneto had the hots for her once iirc.....
Re: Re: Re: X-men vs. Magneto
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Unless they try to seduce him they don't stand a chance.
Rogue already tried that...
http://img448.imageshack.us/img448/2015/magphysicallybeatsrogue4vt.jpg
Originally posted by thanos-primeIronic.
what you don't seem to understand is that you can't always apply physics to the comic world street levelers are always doing things classified as superhuman
No, they just have to be done a certain number of times before I'll accept them. Otherwise they fall into the SMvsFL category.
Originally posted by -Pr-Its been stated on panel several times. The problem is the servos in the visor coupled with the opponents skill.
when with his aim, they really shouldn't.i know. i still dont think the blast is lightspeed, though.
Originally posted by batdude123
They do.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Ironic.No, they just have to be done a certain number of times before I'll accept them. Otherwise they fall into the SMvsFL category.
Its been stated on panel several times. The problem is the servos in the visor coupled with the opponents skill.
i disagree. shrug
Originally posted by Creshosk
You disagree with what's stated on panel several times?
i don't think his general portrayal has been that of someone with light speed beams. yes, i know it's been stated on panel, and that's all well and good, but when you take in to account how many people he's missed when he's supposed to have this crazy accuracy, i don't see how the blasts could be that fast.
i think they're hyperbole, tbh.
Originally posted by -Pr-Because the people he's shot at aren't slouches at dodging? He's nailed wolverine on a number of occasions as well. And he's someone that's hard even for super speed powered characters to tag when he's in full dodge mode.
i don't think his general portrayal has been that of someone with light speed beams. yes, i know it's been stated on panel, and that's all well and good, but when you take in to account how many people he's missed when he's supposed to have this crazy accuracy, i don't see how the blasts could be that fast.i think they're hyperbole, tbh.
He is crazy accurate but the opponent is always a random variable on where they can dodge to.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Because the people he's shot at aren't slouches at dodging? He's nailed wolverine on a number of occasions as well. And he's someone that's hard even for super speed powered characters to tag when he's in full dodge mode.He is crazy accurate but the opponent is always a random variable on where they can dodge to.
and i don't disagree. it's just that the amount of people he's missed over the years, even with his aim, suggests to me that the blasts just aren't that fast. very fast? yes. lightspeed? not imo.
Originally posted by -Pr-I'm not sure what the difference would be. Either way he wasn't quite calculating his opponents right. there'd be less of a margin on his part if they were C. as a slower beam he'd have to calculate it being where they were going to be based on its speed. with it being C there'd be less calculation.
and i don't disagree. it's just that the amount of people he's missed over the years, even with his aim, suggests to me that the blasts just aren't that fast. very fast? yes. lightspeed? not imo.
Of course him missing could still be like flash's comics lasting longer than a few panels. its so that there's a story. If Cyclops auto hit every time the stories wouldn't last as long.
