Originally posted by Brutacus
The fight would have been over after the third scan.
Since lockhead and kitty intervened.
So Colossus really didn't beat him on his own.Colossus was out much longer than hulk the second time.
Colossus didn't beat him at all. Hulk wasn't KO'd. It's pretty clear he was faking it to draw him in. He did it with Superman, too(despite the fight was non-canon). He snaps his eyes open, and slugs him hard. I was wondering what people were talking about when they said Colossus beat Savage Hulk. Knowing it's this fight, that whole statement is bullsh*t. Thing and Colossus will never beat Savage Hulk. They both have static low-end brick strength.
Originally posted by Master CourtSo your saying Hulk had to play tricks on Colossus to win? Really?
Colossus didn't beat him at all. Hulk wasn't KO'd. It's pretty clear he was faking it to draw him in. He did it with Superman, too(despite the fight was non-canon). He snaps his eyes open, and slugs him hard. I was wondering what people were talking about when they said Colossus beat Savage Hulk. Knowing it's this fight, that whole statement is bullsh*t. Thing and Colossus will never beat Savage Hulk. They both have static low-end brick strength.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
So your saying Hulk had to play tricks on Colossus to win? Really?
Lame-o.
If by "trick" you mean tactics. And he obviously doesn't need to trick Colossus to beat the sh*t out of that little tin can. Colossus is nowhere near Hulk's league. Hulk uses tactics all the time, even on people he has routinely beaten. Hulk can tear planets up by hand, and can survive nuclear blasts unphased. Colossus is just a metal Thing. And both are toys for Hulk to toss around.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
So Hulk's plan was to let Colossus kick him in the face and throw him into a mountain and then sneak attack him when he wasn't expecting it?
When has Hulk ever thought that far ahead?
No, Pete's a good fighter, and got that far on his own. Hulk, as he usually does, came up with a tactic on the fly. Play KO. And it wasn't a "sneak" attack. It was a surprise attack. And not even much of one, considering Hulk talked a lot of sh*t before even striking. Colossus saw it coming a mile away, and he still got BFR'd up the ass.
Oh, trust me, it's absolutely in his persona. It's one of the reasons he often surprises his opponents who are usually much smarter than him.
It's very simple stuff, but tactical nonetheless. Like when Hulk faced a speedster and couldn't catch him. He said something like "But Hulk is smart! Fast man can't run if not touching ground." That's very poorly quoted and improved, but that's the gist of it. He then thunderclapped and knocked the speedster of his feet. And he hammered him before the speedster could get back up.
So his tactics are simple, but very often effective. Like playing possum.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
Usually when a person uses tactics it's a last resort. That's why I don't think Hulk was playing possum.
Tactics aren't a last resort. They're the FIRST resort. It's a basic rule of fighting. And like I've pointed out, Savage Hulk's used tactics and strategy before, a million times. Very basic measures of it, but always effective. Even in the early days he would holler "You cannot do this if you cannot do that! Now Hulk will something or other!" And he would pull off some effective strategy.
Besides, when someone is KO'd, they don't just pop their eyes open and immediately know where they are, what the situation is, and already have a mouthful to say. When people wake up from a KO, they are groggy, disoriented, and hardly have the presence of mind to start talking sh*t. Hulk didn't even "come to". He pops his eyes open, immediately knows where Colossus is, talks some trash, and lands a huge punch that takes Colossus out of there. Hulk was definitely not KO'd. Thor's Mjolnir can shatter planets, but even a max-strength hammer toss didn't do much more than bat Hulk a distance. Hulk didn't even miss a beat. Colossus is nowhere near that strong. But it's possible Hulk recognized Colossus was a better fighter and decided to use a tactic to get the opening he needed for the one-shot. Colossus is simply not on KO-Hulk-Level, even if he lasts a bit by way of skill and durability. Basically Juggernaut and Thor are Hulk's only true rivals.