Submariner vs Colossus

Started by snoopdogg11 pages

Originally posted by Master Court
No one is KO'd for five seconds, and wakes up to immediately jumping back into the fight with full fury.
Unless you have a very fast working healing factor ofcourse.

Namor took the fights to water generally, and Hulk hasnt knocked him out at all to my knowledge. Regardless, it doesnt come down to raw strength. Batman didnt beat Bane by being physically stronger, he does it because hes a better fighter, better tactician, more agile, etc etc. Namor's strength advantage here is overkill.

Hulk looks like he was having sweet dreams while lying in the rubble.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Unless you have a very fast working healing factor ofcourse.

People don't "heal" to wake up. A KO is not damage. It's simply a "system crash" so to speak. Besides, your theory is bullsh*t. Hulk has been KO'd for much longer than that before.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Hulk looks like he was having sweet dreams while lying in the rubble.

Uh, whatever, dude. Colossus was scared and doubtful. Hulk was laying there for less than fifteen seconds. As soon as Colossus was close, Hulk sprung up and slugged him.

Look at the panel where Colossus grabs Hulk's legs. Hulk looks like he is in la la land there also.

I have to agree, putting Colossus on Namor and Hulk's level is a stretch. He has better durability over Namor, but thats about it.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Look at the panel where Colossus grabs Hulk's legs. Hulk looks like he is in la la land there also.

Colossus only hints that Hulk is stunned. It's possible, considering Colossus is damn strong and that was a kick to the chin. But then all he does is throw Hulk into a big rock. And it wasn't a fastball either. He softball throws him. The arc in the path and Hulk flipping shows that. So all Hulk really did was fall into the rock. Considering Hulk's durability, that definitely could not have KO'd him. Not to mention Hulk only springs up when Colossus is really close. The bottom panel on the previous page shows Colossus is still approaching. Next page, second panel, he's standing next to Hulk. Suddenly, Hulk pops his eyes open and springs the attack.

There have fights, real life and comic book that someone has been stunned/ko'd, then gotten up and immediately gone back to business.

Pro Boxing, Pro MMA, and most importantly Forum rules all say: K.O. = win

Even a split second ko = win.

Wasn't KO, though.

They never said it was KO. So it's not a win.

First, Hulk only sprung up as soon as Colossus was right next to him.

And then, again, Hulk said "Did puny human think a few punches would finish Hulk? Bet now puny human will have to think again!"

Given the combatants, Colossus wasn't hoping to have killed Hulk. So any "finish" would've only gone as far as a KO. But Hulk directly implies he wasn't out at all. "Think again" pretty much spells it out.

Stunned = jacksh*t
Not a win. Good showing for Pete. But not a win. Not even close.

And MMA is bullsh*t. Good for their little greased up cage sodomy competition shows, but it's virtually useless in the real world.

So I guess boxing is useless, and so is every other practical, used in real situations martial art huh????

Originally posted by redhotrash
Pro MMA say: K.O. = win
Not really.

Originally posted by Master Court
And MMA is bullsh*t. Good for their little greased up cage sodomy competition shows, but it's virtually useless in the real world.
Not really.

Originally posted by Master Court
And MMA is bullsh*t. Good for their little greased up cage sodomy competition shows, but it's virtually useless in the real world.

Originally posted by Master Court
Wasn't KO, though.

They never said it was KO. So it's not a win.

First, Hulk only sprung up as soon as Colossus was right next to him.

And then, again, Hulk said "Did puny human think a few punches would finish Hulk? Bet now puny human will have to think again!"

Given the combatants, Colossus wasn't hoping to have killed Hulk. So any "finish" would've only gone as far as a KO. But Hulk directly implies he wasn't out at all. "Think again" pretty much spells it out.

Stunned = jacksh*t
Not a win. Good showing for Pete. But not a win. Not even close.

Agreed given the context of the battle, thats the way it seemed to me.

ok so I think Submariner wins.

Namor

Colossus shouldn't have felt bad for kayoing Hulk and just finished him off.