Starving Wives in Afganistan

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8204207.stm

An Afghan bill allowing a husband to starve his wife if she refuses to have sex has been published in the official gazette and become law.

The original bill caused outrage earlier this year, forcing Afghan President Hamid Karzai to withdraw it.

But critics say the amended version of the law remains highly repressive.

They accuse Mr Karzai of selling out Afghan women for the sake of conservative Shia support at next week's presidential election.

The law governs family life for Afghanistan's Shia minority.

Sexual demands

The original version obliged Shia women to have sex with their husbands every four days at a minimum, and it effectively condoned rape by removing the need for consent to sex within marriage.

Western leaders and Afghan women's groups were united in condemning an apparent reversal of key freedoms won by women after the fall of the Taliban.

Now an amended version of the same bill has passed quietly into law with the apparent approval of President Karzai.

Just ahead of this Thursday's Afghan presidential election, human rights groups suggest the timing is no accident.

"There was a review process - Karzai came under huge pressure from all over the world to amend this law, but many of the most oppressive laws remain," Rachel Reid, the Human Rights Watch representative in Kabul, told the BBC.

"What matters more to Karzai is the support of fundamentalists and hardliners here in Afghanistan whose support he thinks he needs in the elections."

Women's groups say its new wording still violates the principle of equality that is enshrined in their constitution.

It allows a man to withhold food from his wife if she refuses his sexual demands; a woman must get her husband's permission to work; and fathers and grandfathers are given exclusive custody of children.

Mind you, allowing husbands to starve their wives is the revised, more progressive version of the law.

Boo hoo? Other countriess have different laws and customs, that's life really.

Of course, I ain't feelin' this law.

However, they should put out more. Seems they had such a huge problem with the wives, they had to bring it to the LAW, dude. 🙂

Okay, I'll say it. The wonders of Islam, behold. Bunch of ****ing savages.

Originally posted by Robtard
Okay, I'll say it. The wonders of Islam, behold. Bunch of ****ing savages.

Originally posted by King Kandy
That is complete shit. Afghanistan is the worst place in the world and in absolutely no way can this be used as an example to condemn islam as a whole. I can find examples of most big religions doing things just as horrifying.

It's not complete shit.

"They accuse Mr Karzai of selling out Afghan women for the sake of conservative Shia support at next week's presidential election."

Take a look at other Islamic countries, women being treated very poorly is a common theme in many of them.

Pass a law allowing starving women to pour drops of fresh spring water into their husbands' noses when they sleep.

Originally posted by King Kandy
That is complete shit. Afghanistan is the worst place in the world and in absolutely no way can this be used as an example to condemn islam as a whole. I can find examples of most big religions doing things just as horrifying.

no you really cant. oppressing women is much more common in predominantly muslim nations then predominantly christian or other nations. not trying to say that one religion is better then the other nor am i saying that all muslims are that radical but it is a fact that islam tends to support this kind of stuff more often than Christianity or others do otherwise the guy wouldnt be passing this law to get the support of his people.

Originally posted by Robtard
It's not complete shit.

"They accuse Mr Karzai of selling out Afghan women for the sake of conservative [b]Shia support at next week's presidential election."

Take a look at other Islamic countries, women being treated very poorly is a common theme in many of them. [/B]

Let's look at Turkey. Nearly everyone in muslim. This sort of thing is not being enshrined in law (in fact the opposite has happened). Let's look at Islam prior to western influence. Women were treated well. It is the theocracies that cause this, not Islam.

in case anyone doesn't see the threat in my comment-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naegleria_fowleri

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
no you really cant. oppressing women is much more common in predominantly muslim nations then predominantly christian or other nations. not trying to say that one religion is better then the other nor am i saying that all muslims are that radical but it [b]is a fact that islam tends to support this kind of stuff more often than Christianity or others do otherwise the guy wouldnt be passing this law to get the support of his people. [/B]

Before the soviet invasion and Mujahadine, afghanistan was just is muslim but much more feminist. It is fundies that cause all the problems not something inherent in islam.

why should we feel sorry for them starving they could careless if everyone in the US dropped dead tomorrow

actually the catalysts were British and French Imperialism, Sayyid Qutb's education in the US and imprisonment in Egypt, and most of all, the foolish installation of the Shah to power by the CIA at the behest of what is now British Petroleum.

Originally posted by chomperx9
why should we feel sorry for them starving they could careless if everyone in the US dropped dead tomorrow

Originally posted by King Kandy
Look at muslims in western countries (cept Holland), it is not nearly as predominant. It is the fact that a theocracy has been allowed to form that gives way to this issue.

Let's look at Turkey. Nearly everyone in muslim. This sort of thing is not being enshrined in law (in fact the opposite has happened). Let's look at Islam prior to western influence. Women were treated well. It is the theocracies that cause this, not Islam.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad
(ca. 570 Mecca[مَكَةَ ]/[ مَكَهْ ] – June 8, 632 Medina)

Islam is very young. You are obviously misinformed and biased by todays "multicultural" propaganda. Muslims are not harmless, they are not pursuing the American dream, they are at an open jihad with the USA. They treat their women poorly because it is their religion.

Any muslims you meet who are peaceful and DONT wear burkhas and try to kill the recievers of said Jiihad are not muslims as they do not follow the teachings of Muhammad.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Er because we actually did things to cause this whereas they have done nothing to us?

So yea... you keep thinking that the radical muslim nation would be civilized and would have equal rights and a democratic republic if we had never made contact with them.

before the "war on terror" Iraq was taking wives who had disobeyed and bringing them into the middle of a soccer field with a huge assembly and sawing their heads off. Saudi Arabia, which we have not touched except to pass our money over, recently sentenced a woman to death by the whip because she was raped.

Now another iraqi nation, afghanistan, decides to starve their wives for sex, and its OUR fault. its a twisted anti-American de-patrotized stand you take.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Er because we actually did things to cause this whereas they have done nothing to us?

Originally posted by ~:Mr.Anderson:~
You are very mal-informed. Troops invading Iraq caused Afghanistan to create a law that treats women like property?

Originally posted by ~:Mr.Anderson:~
Also, the muslim nation, afghanistan included, is in jiihad with us.

Originally posted by ~:Mr.Anderson:~
they are the ones who blew up the world trade center, not iraq.

Originally posted by ~:Mr.Anderson:~
So yea... you keep thinking that the radical muslim nation would be civilized and would have equal rights and a democratic republic if we had never made contact with them.

Originally posted by chomperx9
yeah we caused things to have the world trade center and many lives lost uh hu. they are the ones that want to go to war everyday and threaten us.

Originally posted by King Kandy

Before the soviet invasion and Mujahadine, afghanistan was just is muslim but much more feminist. It is fundies that cause all the problems not something inherent in islam.

And women were NOT treated well before the soviets invaders. they have been property in the middle east since the dawn of time.