Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
No.
No what?
No the Force Field was not up? I never recall it being stated otherwise.
I do not that the Force Field allows him to be even more formidable by preventing objects, and repelling them as I recall.
What I am trying to recall, is how it would affect energy attacks, which I cannot remember and unfortunately cannnot check.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Your point? That much is obvious.What I'm saying is that, since it was never stated his Force Field that would mean it was on when the God Blast was used.
How it affects energy attacks is what I trying to remember. Would it simply repel the energy around him?
I think without forcefield, he would feel the brunt of attacks, maybe keel over...but again, he wouldn't be damaged in the slightest by a godblast, even without the forcefield. He might be sent flying though.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
The GF blast made contact, it says as much. It stopped him, pushed him back and gave him vertigo. His natural invulnerability protected him from any damage.
Where? It doesn't say the God Blast made direct contact with him.
All it says is that pushed him back as Juggernaut experiences a moment of vertigo and disbelief.
It never said, anywhere, at all, that he turned off his Force Field, after he stopped the hammer.
If it never said otherwise, than the only logical answer is that it was on.
Originally posted by Starscream M
I think without forcefield, he would feel the brunt of attacks, maybe keel over...but again, he wouldn't be damaged in the slightest by a godblast, even without the forcefield. He might be sent flying though.
How do you know? He took a God Blast that was under circumstances, and now it's not even clear he actually took it directly or the Force Field protected him.
Originally posted by Starscream M
anyways, Herc holds his own for a few hours...then Juggernaut starts winning the tide of battle and beats down herc
Nah. If we are under the assumption that Hercules is Thor's equal, and Thor almost knocked him out and had him on his last leg in about a few blows and 60 seconds, then Hercules puts Cain down.
Originally posted by Starscream M
how?
Did you not understand what Leo intended here?
This is the same Cain that Thor fought when he negated his enchantment of invulnerability.
He might still possess his strength and so on but he isn't truly invulnerable to conventional damage here. Thor beat his ass and almost knocked him out after a few blows.
How is Hercules not a threat if his an equal of Thor? There isn't any time limit, and so on. Hercules would put him down here.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Where? It doesn't say the God Blast made direct contact with him.All it says is that pushed him back as Juggernaut experiences a moment of vertigo and disbelief.
It never said, anywhere, at all, that he turned off his Force Field, after he stopped the hammer.
If it never said otherwise, than the only logical answer is that it was on.
hehehehe you're silly.
If, as you, yourself said, he had his FF on the GF wouldn't have done anything to him. It would've halted the energy before it came into contact or it would've dispersed the emergy around him. It did neither. It came into contact with the Juggernaut and pushed him back.
The FF was off. No other explanation makes sense.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympushe said no shield.
Did you not understand what Leo intended here?This is the same Cain that Thor fought when he negated his enchantment of invulnerability.
He might still possess his strength and so on but he isn't truly invulnerable to conventional damage here. Thor beat his ass and almost knocked him out after a few blows.
How is Hercules not a threat if his an equal of Thor? There isn't any time limit, and so on. Hercules would put him down here.
juggy without shield is still 100% invincible.
leo was mistaken thinking otherwise.
Juggy wins.
Originally posted by Starscream M
he said no shield.juggy without shield is still 100% invincible.
leo was mistaken thinking otherwise.
Juggy wins.
facepalm
So, the answer is no, you didn't understand what circumstances Leo was trying to create at all.
In this scenario, he envisioned the same Juggernaut Thor beat the crap out off. The same Juggernaut whose enchantment was removed by Thor.
He simply stated no Force Field, as an attempt to make it more clear but all it did was make it more confusing.
Let me try and make it clear one more time.
This is the same Juggernaut, that Thor fought at the end of their second fight (The same Juggernaut who was not actually invulnerable.) versus Hercules.
In that case. Hercules puts him down, if we assume he is the physical equal of Thor. It's not that difficult at all.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
hehehehe you're silly.If, as you, yourself said, he had his FF on the GF wouldn't have done anything to him. It would've halted the energy before it came into contact or it would've dispersed the emergy around him. It did neither. It came into contact with the Juggernaut and pushed him back.
The FF was off. No other explanation makes sense.
Glad I can amuse you.
Let me try and clarify what I meant. "If" the Force Field was present, the God Blast wouldn't have touched him, and simply gone around him/engulfed him. That would make sense looking back at the art. The energy itself would have simply gone around him, but the Force could have still pushed him back.
As shown, his Force Field is almost like a second skin. When he turned it on to stop Mjolnir, we could still here a "tonk" noise. That would indicate even with it on, Mjolnir practically touched him. Hence why even with it on, Thor was still able to knock him back with a blow.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Removing his enchantment turns him back into Cain Marko.Some day you Thor fans will understand how retarded Thor 429 was.
Rage, I gots to put you on ignore now. You're not worth a banning.
Your putting me on ignore? Me?
Damn that hurt my feelings. cry
I always enjoyed our conversations even though they get tedious and redundant at a point.
I always saw that he removed his invulnerability. Didn't Marko yell that he still had his strength or something along those lines? He just removed his invulnerability as far as I understand.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33lulz theres gotta be plenty examples
hehehehe you're silly.If, as you, yourself said, he had his FF on the GF wouldn't have done anything to him. It would've halted the energy before it came into contact or it would've dispersed the emergy around him. It did neither. It came into contact with the Juggernaut and pushed him back.
The FF was off. No other explanation makes sense.
u saying Jug w/o his FF can be hurt by Shatterstar but not by Thors GODblast? 🙄
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympusyeah Thor only his invulnerblity
Your putting me on ignore? Me?Damn that hurt my feelings. cry
I always enjoyed our conversations even though they get tedious and redundant at a point.
I always saw that he removed his invulnerability. Didn't Marko yell that he still had his strength or something along those lines? He just removed his invulnerability as far as I understand.
but even w/o his FF i dunno if Thor could of killed Cain. maybe only KO