Originally posted by SoulDevourer
lulz theres gotta be plenty examples
like Supe also has a FF that dont stop him from gettin pushedu saying Jug w/o his FF can be hurt by Shatterstar but not by Thors GODblast? 🙄
:😖igh:: Shatterstars sword was designed specifically to do just that.
Think before you post.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympusyou've argued against juggy when faced against galactus (durability only), green lantern, and now hercules. I've always seen you going against him.
A Juggernaut hater? Far from it.You're just resorting to this because you didn't know what the hell you were talking about.
I've argued for Juggernaut on different occasions. Ask Knowsbleed himself.
Originally posted by Starscream M
you've argued against juggy when faced against galactus (durability only), green lantern, and now hercules. I've always seen you going against him.
So your reasoning for the statement I am a Juggernaut hater are:
A) I don't think his more durable than Galactus.
B) I don't think there is any logical way he can beat a Green Lantern with unlimited charge ring when they can fly, phase, teleport etc. and call it a stalemate.
C) I believe that Hercules, who is supposedly Thor's equal, can beat down the same Juggernaut, who Thor was about to knock out with 3 blows under 60 seconds?
Yea, I'm clearly a Juggernaut hater. So is everyone who uses common sense right?
Go back to the drawing board, and next time you try to insult me or anything of the sort, at least make it worth my time.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Rage does indeed back the Juggernaut on occasion. Although, the only time I'VE witnessed it is in Hulk threads.
And almost any other thread, when it's a conventional Superhero brick and/or it's purely a hand to hand fight.
I believe he would beat Hercules, Hulk etc. by default as they are simply bricks. He would also beat Superman in a fist fight. Hell, I even believe he would beat Thor in a fist fight sooner or later without battle field removal.
Either way you look at it, none of the beings with these level of strength can harm the Juggernaut, while he can. His basically the Mangog of conventional superheroes.
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33wut...he allways uses same swords
:😖igh:: Shatterstars sword was designed specifically to do just that.Think before you post.
it just happen 2 b able hurt Cain
btw how could some1 like Shatterstar make sword to hurt Cain? it take power to do that
if a lo-lvl meta like Shatterstar can put enuf power into sword to hurt Cain then some1 like Thor shoud be able put enuf power into his godblast to hurt Cain
Originally posted by Starscream M
you've argued against juggy when faced against galactus (durability only), green lantern, and now hercules. I've always seen you going against him.
Clearly this isn't the regular Juggernaut and arguing against Juggernaut when we're discussing Galactus and Green Lantern does not make him a hater. Are you stupid?
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this thread has been hilarious. rage was exactly correct--this thread was meant to limit jugg's durability. clearly all his enchantments weren't cancelled by thor or else he could have breathed on marko and killed him instead of beating on him for a full minute.
i said in a previous post--assume herc and juggs had the SAME durability, and that this was simply h2h based on strength and skill. some were saying juggs stronger than herc. i've still seen no proof that regular juggs>herc so again, with equal durability and full strength levels for both, herc wins, handily imo.
the thread says 'shield' not 'force field'. it was meant to imply WHATEVER it is that grants juggs complete invulnerability has been removed. like i said--it is possible for him to be ko'd. of course a regular invulnerable juggs would eventually win a brawl (unless herc could bfr him). the purpose of the thread was basically to see who'd win using just strength. not that difficult . . .
as for the force field--he had it up when thor threw the hammer. he never took it down. we have don't see if the GB hit juggs, but since he was simply being pushed back, it is easy to see how it was hitting just the FF. beyond that, there is the whole thing about the writer using the FF as juggs source of invulnerabilty. it was raised in the later arc where thor was going to finish him with a PUNCH. up for a throw, up for a punch. of course it was up for the GB. to say it wasn't, is illogical and goes against the entirety of both arcs. yoy can say you disagree with how it was portrayed (though even without it juggs had some pretty good invulnerabilty as he stood up to thor for a minute) but it is clear the writer intended for the FF to account for the bulk of his invulnerability, and it's clear it was intended to be up for the GB, imo. that GB was a battle between jugg's 'unstoppability' and the GB, and the GB was getting the better of things in the short time they battled each other.
anyway, with equal durability and using just strength/skill in h2h, herc wins.
Originally posted by leonidas...he does NOT need proof...he is as strong as he needs to be....he pushed WWH and in all of their fights Hulk the strongest one there is has never out muscle him...
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i've still seen no proof that regular juggs>herc so again, with equal durability and full strength levels for both, herc wins, handily imo.
so....Juggernaut>Hulk>Thor>Hercules..... 💃
Originally posted by nicamarvin
...he does NOT need proof...he is as strong as he needs to be....he pushed WWH and in all of their fights Hulk the strongest one there is has never out muscle him...so....Juggernaut>Hulk>Thor>Hercules..... 💃
What's the basis for that little conclusion?
I mean, prove to me that Hulk and Juggernaut are superior to Thor and Hercules if we are assuming they are equals. You cannot. None of their fights prove so.
Didn't Juggernaut even state that his strength equals Thor's at one point in their fights?
Since when is Juggernaut as strong as he needs to be? Because his never reached a limit, or because he can match different incarnations of the Hulk? The exact same can be said for Thor if that's your basis. By the way he has been stopped and tossed around before. Just pointing out that this wouldn't happen if he is as strong as he needs to be.