Batman vs. John McClane

Started by Rogue Jedi55 pages

Originally posted by KingD19
Couldn't Batman just go up several floors at a time with the grappling hook, then use his explosion gel gun, yadda yadda batman prep nonsense.
Use the gel gun on Mac? Wouldnt that like kill him?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Wrong movie. Teehee.

Oh wait. I'm supposed to be all pissed at you like everyone else gets in all of the vs. threads.

RJ! You dumbass piece of shit! I can't believe what a moron you are!

😆

so much factors to put into play here

bat's reflexes
the durability of the suit/mask
john getting first shot
etc.

I have an opinion of who'll win but I'll keep it to myself

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
How about this. McClane is on the top floor of Nakatomi, he knows Batman is coming, he has a half hour prep.

Batman pulls up and enters Nakatomi, has to make his way to McClane, from the bottom floor to the top floor.

Better?

That is indeed more fair, so do you think that the prep is necessary for McClane to have a chance in that?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
So Batman can take out the Scarecrow and his armed guys on a rooftop, Batman can take out a buncha armed asians and escape with their boss, but he can't take out one lonely cop with a gun?

Go McClane.

Oh he can, but you'll turn it into this.

McClane gets: 30 mins prep time, explosives he pulled out of his ass, enough guns to supply an army and he's holed up in a well protected room with only one way to enter. Possibly rigging an invention of some sort that suspends all guns from the cieling and ties a string around every single trigger so that he can just hide behind a desk and pull the string which will fire every single gun at Batman.

Batman will get: No prep time, possibly, you might be generous and give him ten minutes of prep time, after that, he's on his own walking around the building opening doors yelling like an idiot.

That's how you'de do it, or eventually turn it into.

Originally posted by Bardock42
No, Imp's thread makes sense Batman approaches and both are not sure who the other is, you turned it into this:

Okay, woah, Batman got pwned bad, right? What a loser, maybe now we should gimp him a little bit to make it fair, perhaps....not have McClane already aim his gun at him in the beginning of the fight?

I did nothing of the sort, dude, but thats quite a nice drawing.

OK, what happens when they arent sure what to do here? Do they stand there swapping war stories? Does Mac shoot? What?

Originally posted by Scythe
Oh he can, but you'll turn it into this.

McClane gets: 30 mins prep time, explosives he pulled out of his ass, enough guns to supply an army and he's holed up in a well protected room with only one way to enter. Possibly rigging an invention of some sort that suspends all guns from the cieling and ties a string around every single trigger so that he can just hide behind a desk and pull the string which will fire every single gun at Batman.

Batmen will get: No prep time, possibly, you might be generous and give him ten minutes of prep time, after that, he's on his own walking around the building opening doors yelling like an idiot.

That's how you'de do it, or eventually turn it into.

You forgot to mention that McClane can teleport and is covered in adamantium.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
thats quite a nice drawing.

that drawing if f*cking hilarious 😆

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You forgot to mention that McClane can teleport and is covered in adamantium.

can't leave out those details 😂

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
You forgot to mention that McClane can teleport and is covered in adamantium.

It's funny cuz you did this in the Swagger thread. Remember? Swagger in a house with a years worth a food and a bunch of ammunition. Not to mention an entire booby trapped forest all around the house.

Batman got his batmobile...

Originally posted by Bardock42
That is indeed more fair, so do you think that the prep is necessary for McClane to have a chance in that?
Nope.

Lets say we go with the OP. Mac is slow on the draw, Batman ducks behind a wall. Well, Mac pulls a wad of C4, hurls it in Batmans general direction, shoots it, and BOOM, everything in the general vicinity gets blown to shit.

Even if Batman is running all out, away from Mac, he gets knocked on his ass at the very least, while Mac is taking cover behind a desk. BOOM BOOM, two in Bats computer.

I didn't mean use the gel gun on McClane RJ, I meant use it on the window, blow it out, and while McClane is distracted/disoriented, hit him with a Bat combo.

Originally posted by Scythe
It's funny cuz you did this in the Swagger thread. Remember? Swagger in a house with a years worth a food and a bunch of ammunition. Not to mention an entire booby trapped forest all around the house.

Batman got his batmobile...

Nah, Swagger was in his element, with all the weapons he used in the movies, Batman had the batmobile and whatever else he used in the movies.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I did nothing of the sort, dude, but thats quite a nice drawing.

OK, what happens when they arent sure what to do here? Do they stand there swapping war stories? Does Mac shoot? What?

Not only you, but yes, the argument basically amounted to that.

Well, honestly, I doubt Batman would ever just go off and stay Western Showdown style before a terrorist, but say he did for a second, when he'd see the gun he'd move himself into cover, and yes, perhaps McClane would raise, aim and shoot his gun, but that takes time, it is not instant as you guys suppose and therefore it is hardly a clear cut "Batman dies, end of story".

Originally posted by KingD19
I didn't mean use the gel gun on McClane RJ, I meant use it on the window, blow it out, and while McClane is distracted/disoriented, hit him with a Bat combo.
Thats an idea. Except he would have to catch McClane by a window, and HOPE it doesnt kill McClane. Too risky IMO.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Nope.

Lets say we go with the OP. Mac is slow on the draw, Batman ducks behind a wall. Well, Mac pulls a wad of C4, hurls it in Batmans general direction, shoots it, and BOOM, everything in the general vicinity gets blown to shit.

Even if Batman is running all out, away from Mac, he gets knocked on his ass at the very least, while Mac is taking cover behind a desk. BOOM BOOM, two in Bats computer.

W-where did he get that C4 from suddenly?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Not only you, but yes, the argument basically amounted to that.

Well, honestly, I doubt Batman would ever just go off and stay Western Showdown style before a terrorist, but say he did for a second, when he'd see the gun he'd move himself into cover, and yes, perhaps McClane would raise, aim and shoot his gun, but that takes time, it is not instant as you guys suppose and therefore it is hardly a clear cut "Batman dies, end of story".

As I said, Mac pulls a wad of C4, hurls it in Batmans direction, shoots it, dead Bat.

Next question.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Nah, Swagger was in his element, with all the weapons he used in the movies, Batman had the batmobile and whatever else he used in the movies.

Heh, it was a gimped thread man, much like this one is starting to become. By your definition, McClane farts and Batman just explodes.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
As I said, Mac pulls a wad of C4, hurls it in Batmans direction, shoots it, dead Bat.

Next question.

Why does he have c4, did he steal Batman's utility belt?

Originally posted by Bardock42
W-where did he get that C4 from suddenly?
He had C4 in Die Hard. Batman is being given all his weapons, isn't it common sense to give Mac his?

Originally posted by Scythe
It's funny cuz you did this in the Swagger thread. Remember? Swagger in a house with a years worth a food and a bunch of ammunition. Not to mention an entire booby trapped forest all around the house.

Batman got his batmobile...

😆 LMFAO