Batman vs. John McClane

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
then answer me this, applying real laws of physics.. Can I man be shot from around say 10 feet and then live? and also do bullets really bend and curve like they do in Wanted?

Yes. A man can be shot at 10 feet, right in the brain, and live. A man can also be shot point blank, in the head, and live. It's happened on multiple occasions.

No, bending bullets like that is not possible, even if the person is superhuman. It's actually stupid to think it can be done, imo....but, hey, it's a movie.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Yes. A man can be shot at 10 feet, right in the brain, and live. A man can also be shot point blank, in the head, and live. It's happened on multiple occasions.

No, bending bullets like that is not possible, even if the person is superhuman. It's actually stupid to think it can be done, imo....but, hey, it's a movie.

exactly and movies like that are fun to watch

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
which is why real laws of physics are not applied, IMO

Originally posted by Bardock42
Yes, potentially they can. But you are right that in most action movies bullets don't kill the protagonists, that is generally moot in a vs. fight where it would apply to both.

No, bullets do not bend like they do in Wanted. But that is what I meant, they established that it is basically a superpower some people have, it overrides the underlying physics.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Yes. A man can be shot at 10 feet, right in the brain, and live. A man can also be shot point blank, in the head, and live. It's happened on multiple occasions.

No, bending bullets like that is not possible, even if the person is superhuman. It's actually stupid to think it can be done, imo....but, hey, it's a movie.

Oops, sorry, double post (again), my bad.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Oops, sorry, double post (again), my bad.

Don't be a whiner.

If our posts contained the same exact information, then I wouldn't have posted. I was dissatisfied with your post and figured I'd post a reply that was better.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Don't be a whiner.

If our posts contained the same exact information, then I wouldn't have posted. I was dissatisfied with your post and figured I'd post a reply that was better.

Fair enough, I thought I'd make a joke, pointing out that I think your "additional information" was hardly necessary.

I'm sure you won't lose sleep over it.

Originally posted by Bardock42
What physics are applied then though.

well for one remember in Batman '89 where Batman blocked a bullet?

also in Batman Forever where Batman jumps in a huge vat of water, barely touches the water, leaps out all the while beats up the thugs shooting bullets at him..

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
well for one remember in Batman '89 where Batman blocked a bullet?

also in Batman Forever where Batman jumps in a huge vat of water, barely touches the water, leaps out all the while beats up the thugs shooting bullets at him..

I think we are talking about the Batman from the new, rebooted franchise, no?

Originally posted by Bardock42
I think we are talking about the Batman from the new, rebooted franchise, no?

yeah we are, but my point is if real laws of physics are the same as movie laws of physics then my examples can actually happen?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Fair enough, I thought I'd make a joke, pointing out that I think your "additional information" was hardly necessary.

Your "joke" didn't get any laughs. Yes, it was quite obvious what you were doing.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I'm sure you won't lose sleep over it.

This is correct.

I recomend less trolling, Bardock42. 😐

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
yeah we are, but my point is if real laws of physics are the same as movie laws of physics then my examples can actually happen?

That is not what I am saying. What I was saying is that real physics is the underlying principle in movies unless specifically stated or shown not to apply.

As such we assume that the people outside of the Matrix are bound by our laws (except for Neo as we later find out) while within the Matrix a different set of rules applies. That is also why everyone in the Wanted universe that is not specifically able to do what people in the fraternity do is considered bound by our laws, while those that are able to bend them have a specific superpower, which would in a vs. fight be part of the set up.

Originally posted by Bardock42
That is not what I am saying. What I was saying is that real physics is the underlying principle in movies unless specifically stated or shown not to apply.

As such we assume that the people outside of the Matrix are bound by our laws (except for Neo as we later find out) while within the Matrix a different set of rules applies. That is also why everyone in the Wanted universe that is not specifically able to do what people in the fraternity do is considered bound by our laws, while those that are able to bend them have a specific superpower, which would in a vs. fight be part of the set up.

Sounds good to me. The only thing I would correct is the atrocious wording in your first sentence.

Here's whta he's trying to say, Bruceskywalker: All the regular laws of physics apply unless specifically stated to be different or a character defies those physics. Then, the bending of the laws holds true for that character, but only that character.

Example: Batman has superhuman feats in BB and TDK. He technically does things that are beyond peak human capability. 😐

Same with John McClane.....maybe. He is durable...but durable isn't accurate. More like, he has a high pain tolerance.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Your "joke" didn't get any laughs. Yes, it was quite obvious what you were doing.

This is correct.

I recomend less trolling, Bardock42. 😐

It didn't get any laughs from you. Jesus, you accusing me of trolling constantly is odd. Pot calling kettle situation.

I was just pointing out that you basically said what I said.

Originally posted by Bardock42
It didn't get any laughs from you. Jesus, you accusing me of trolling constantly is odd. Pot calling Kettle situation.

This is incorrect. Bruce is also here. Your "joke" was only amusing to yourself. You can keep your subversive and childish insults to yourself.

And, no, me getting defensive because you are insulting me is hardly trolling, Bardock42. I'm just calling your bullsh*t for what it is.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I was just pointing out that you basically said what I said.

And this is not true. Sure, there were a couple of elements that were similar, but that's as far as the line goes.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Sounds good to me. The only thing I would correct is the atrocious wording in your first sentence.

Here's whta he's trying to say, Bruceskywalker: All the regular laws of physics apply unless specifically stated to be different or a character defies those physics. Then, the bending of the laws holds true for that character, but only that character.

Example: Batman has superhuman feats in BB and TDK. He technically does things that are beyond peak human capability. 😐

Same with John McClane.....maybe. He is durable...but durable isn't accurate. More like, he has a high pain tolerance.

maybe, i guess

Originally posted by dadudemon
This is incorrect. Bruce is also here. Your "joke" was only amusing to yourself. You can keep your subversive and childish insults to yourself.

And, no, me getting defensive because you are insulting me is hardly trolling, Bardock42. I'm just calling your bullsh*t for what it is.

And this is not true. Sure, there were a couple of elements that were similar, but that's as far as the line goes.

Originally posted by dadudemon
This is incorrect. Bruce is also here. Your "joke" was only amusing to yourself. You can keep your subversive and childish insults to yourself.

And, no, me getting defensive because you are insulting me is hardly trolling, Bardock42. I'm just calling your bullsh*t for what it is.

And this is not true. Sure, there were a couple of elements that were similar, but that's as far as the line goes.

Where did I insult you? And Bruce didn't state whether he found it amusing. Neither did others. So you are just blindly guessing. Not that I care, as you said, it was amusing to me, that is enough for me.

Okay, we see it differently, no biggie.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Where did I insult you? And Bruce didn't state whether he found it amusing. Neither did others. So you are just blindly guessing. Not that I care, as you said, it was amusing to me, that is enough for me.

Don't pretend to be naive, Bardock42. You know what you did and why you did it.

If Bruceskywalker or myself thought it was funny, we would have told you. 😐

And, you do care, as you're dragging this conversation out much longer than is necessary. You made a lame insult joke. Get over it.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Okay, we see it differently, no biggie.

We only see it differently because you are being Bardock42. And, what you said here is baiting, and you know it.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Don't pretend to be naive, Bardock42. You know what you did and why you did it.

If Bruceskywalker or myself thought it was funny, we would have told you. 😐

And, you do care, as you're dragging this conversation out much longer than is necessary. You made a lame insult joke. Get over it.

We only see it differently because you are being Bardock42. And, what you said here is baiting, and you know it.

Nah, I made a joking remark about the similarity between our posts. You got pissy and whiny and continued arguing. Then you, again, basically just rephrased a post of mine. And accused me or more trolling and baiting.

I'm sorry, but I, again, was trying to discuss something with a person then you butted in and when I remarked on it you got whiny and started accusing me of stuff. I tried to settle it but you continued to accuse me, so I replied, that's where we are now.

Can we go back to this thread now?

Originally posted by Bardock42
Nah, I made a joking remark about the similarity between our posts.

You made an underhanded insult by doing so. Don't sugarcoat what you did, Bardock42.

Originally posted by Bardock42
You got pissy and whiny and continued arguing. Then you, again, basically just rephrased a post of mine. And accused me or more trolling and baiting.

That same is true of you. The tone of my posts hasn't changed at all for several days, now. You, however, keep defending your insults and claiming I'm trolling when I'm calling YOU out for trolling myself and others.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I'm sorry, but I, again, was trying to discuss something with a person then you butted in and when I remarked on it you got whiny and started accusing me of stuff. I tried to settle it but you continued to accuse me, so I replied, that's where we are now.

This is a forum. I don't need permission to answer a friend's legitimate question.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Can we go back to this thread now?

I would certainly like that. I would also request you keep your unsolicited insults, or what you call "jokes", to yourself.