Originally posted by Raptor22
im confused to whats being argued then. brb didnt get completly stomped but he did lose in a fair fight in which ss suffered little if any real damage while its pretty clear ss hurt brb pretty bad. thats just my take on it.
How effective Surfer was against BRB and what Surfer needed to do to win.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Spire is under the delusion that, in comics, the distance you are thrown = the damage that was dealt.To anyone with an iota of intelligence and reading comprehension, it is clear how false that statement is.
To Spire, however, it is not.
Yeah, blows that have sound effects and launch people pretty far are generally not powerful...
Originally posted by Raptor22
im confused to whats being argued then. brb didnt get completly stomped but he did lose in a fair fight in which ss suffered little if any real damage while its pretty clear ss hurt brb pretty bad. thats just my take on it.
The way the fight happened, they did a short exchange of attacks at the start. Due to BRB's powerset, he managed to defend himself from the Surfer's basic attacks. BRB managed to get the first shots in but barely did any visible damage to the Surfer
Surfer compensated and then completely dominated Bill after that, ending in BRB laying down in a fetal position bloodied and beaten in front of the Surfer.
Spire, however, contends that since it really didn't throw Bill that far away, then it didn't really do any damage.
BRB's face disagrees with him, but what's on-panel evidence to a guy who's already made up his mind even before reading the comic, eh?
Originally posted by Spire
Yeah, blows that have sound effects and launch people pretty far are generally not powerful...
Sheesh. PLEASE give your replies a bit more thought.
Never said they weren't. Cept that sound and launching distance has never been indicative of how much damage a blow does. No one contends that BRB's blows were powerful (in fact, he clearly gave it his all), just that he was unable to hurt the Surfer.
Damage-wise, SS's blows did FAR more damage than BRB's.
Damage between combatants and, more importantly, having one KO or take down the other is normally how we rate the winner.
Is it clear now? Do I need to spell it out even clearer to you?
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
The way the fight happened, they did a short exchange of attacks at the start. Due to BRB's powerset, he managed to defend himself from the Surfer's basic attacks. BRB managed to get the first shots in but barely did any visible damage to the SurferSurfer compensated and then completely dominated Bill after that, ending in BRB laying down in a fetal position bloodied and beaten in front of the Surfer.
Spire, however, contends that since it really didn't throw Bill that far away, then it didn't really do any damage.
BRB's face disagrees with him, but what's on-panel evidence to a guy who's already made up his mind even before reading the comic, eh?
After all this time you're still missing the point.
Surfer was dominated in combat. Bill was BLINDSIDED by a board to the back of the neck. I'm surprised he wasn't KOed...
The blood went away after receiving Surfer 2 girl punches in the next panel. All the blood shows is that he received damage.
Also he wasn't laying anywhere.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Sheesh. PLEASE give your replies a bit more thought.Never said they weren't. Cept that sound and launching distance has never been indicative of how much damage a blow does. No one contends that BRB's blows were powerful (in fact, he clearly gave it his all), just that he was unable to hurt the Surfer.
Damage-wise, SS's blows did FAR more damage than BRB's.
Damage between combatants and, more importantly, having one KO or take down the other is normally how we rate the winner.
Is it clear now? Do I need to spell it out even clearer to you?
Lawl. Dull much?
You have any proof? Or do you agree that blows that have sound effects and launch people aren't powerful?
Originally posted by Spire
After all this time you're still missing the point.Surfer was dominated in combat.
Lol.
Originally posted by Spire
Bill was [b]BLINDSIDED by a board to the back of the neck. I'm surprised he wasn't KOed...The blood went away after receiving Surfer 2 girl punches in the next panel. All the blood shows is that he received damage.[/B]
You keep repeating the same FAIL argument. Sigh. See above for my response.
Originally posted by Spire
Also he wasn't laying anywhere.
Yes he was. Face down in space in a fetal position.
lay
/leɪ/
laid, lay⋅ing, noun
–verb (used with object)
1. to put or place in a horizontal position or position of rest;
Originally posted by Spire
Lawl. Dull much?You have any proof? Or do you agree that blows that have sound effects and launch people aren't powerful?
You have any eyes? Or do you simply NOT read what people post. Who said that the attack WASN'T powerful? It was all about how much damage was done.
Damage >< Powerful. Want me to look up the definitions for you?
Sheesh... And YOU call people dull??? Wow.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Lol.You keep repeating the same FAIL argument. Sigh. See above for my response.
Yes he was. Face down in space in a fetal position.
lay
/leɪ/
laid, lay⋅ing, noun
–verb (used with object)
1. to put or place in a horizontal position or position of rest;
Oh, ok. Thought so. You don't have argument and never did.
Concession accepted.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
You have any eyes? Or do you simply NOT read what people post. Who said that the attack WASN'T powerful? It was all about how much damage was done.Damage >< Powerful. Want me to look up the definitions for you?
No, I do it's just that you're not intelligent at all.
We'll do this a different way.
Would you say Bill's blows were powerful?
Originally posted by Spire
No, I do it's just that you're not intelligent at all.
Best not accuse ppl of not being intelligent while making insanely stupid posts. It just ends up making you look quite pathetic.
Originally posted by Spire
We'll do this a different way.Would you say Bill's blows were powerful?
He's a mid-herald level. OF COURSE his blows were powerful. Just weren't powerful enough to hurt the Surfer. While Surfer's blows were easily powerful enough to hurt BRB.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Best not accuse ppl of not being intelligent while making insanely stupid posts yourself. It just ends up making you look quite pathetic.He's a mid-herald level. OF COURSE his blows were powerful. Just weren't powerful enough to hurt the Surfer. While Surfer's blows were easily powerful enough to hurt BRB.
Lol. You have already owned yourself a couple times, yet you keep coming back for more through sheer ignorance. Awesome.
Anyways, why were Bill blows powerful?
Originally posted by Spire
Lol. You have already owned yourself a couple times, yet you keep coming back for more through sheer ignorance. Awesome.
Lol. Others seem to disagree about who the ignorant (and delusional) party is here.
Seriously, you must walk out of your house, smile at a mirror and think you're God's gift to women every night only to get shut down and get slapped by every girl you try to talk to. You then wipe yourself off and then tell yourself "I was just too good looking for them". This is the type of delusion you seem to be under...
Originally posted by Spire
Anyways, why were Bill blows powerful?
Because they were clearly shown to be strong enough to knock the Surfer (who has intense durability) off his board?
My turn with the questions:
Do you believe that distance thrown and the sound effect is a CLEAR and CONCISE indication of how much DAMAGE was dealt between opponents?
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Lol. Others seem to disagree about who the ignorant (and delusional) party is here.Seriously, you must walk out of your house, smile at a mirror and think you're God's gift to women every night only to get shut down and get slapped by every girl you try to talk to. You then wipe yourself off and then tell yourself "I was just too good looking for them". This is the type of delusion you seem to be under...
Nice story. Again, concession, again accepted.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Because they were clearly shown to be strong enough to knock the Surfer (who has intense durability) off his board?
Lol.
-1 for self-pwn. No further questions.
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
My turn with the questions:Do you believe that distance thrown and the sound effect is a CLEAR and CONCISE indication of how much DAMAGE was dealt between opponents?
No, son. Yet when in the same book, same pages powerful blows that launch people and give off sound effects and then other wimpy attacks that don't launch or have sound effects... Pretty answers you question.