Kain vs Kratos and Ganondorf

Started by Burning thought10 pages

He cant but the mist form will break the TK, so when Kain goes solid he can start his attack again, you just mentioned Tk and I told you the counter. Teleport or mist, mist form can be attained almost instantly in a second and takes just as long to return back to physical Kain.

Also I wonder if Kain can turn his opponents into mist, it would be quite funny to have Ganon turn into mist and be swept away on the wind....

wouldnt the tk prevent kain from transforming? show kain escaping something comparable to tk then i'll give it to him.

Thats a crude thing to claim Superluigi, no Kain has not escaped from TK useing mist form because Kain is never canonically Tked, thing is do you know what Tk is? its a physical force constraining in this case Kain, Ganon cannot constrain Kain if Kain is made out of a moist gas now can he? no.....(unless ofc you can prove as I said before, he can TK a gas)

Ganon CAN TK the Mist form. He will not escape Ganon.

i know what it is. so basically nothing is shown kain being tk'd so he couldnt have possibly escaped with mist, what we have is an unknown unknown.

If you know what it is, you can understand why its impossible for Ganon to touch mist with his Tk by normal Tking methods, so its not an unkown, we simply know Kain has not done it in Canon but we know what mist is, know what Tk is and can make a logical conclusion.

Ganon can TK a Light Spirit. Which is either light, or a spirit. Pretty sure he can TK mist.

Mist isn't as hard to TK as you might think either, its halfway between TKing a liquid and a gas, since what makes it mist is a lot of water vapor mixed in.

Its particles of moisture are so small it may as well be a gas and what do you mean not as hard as I might think? thats still hard, if all yuove done is TK liquids or solids, anything near a gas would be difficult.

And a light spirit? show me....ive seen a lot of Ganon feats, I am usually disapointed when I actually see them. Its probably got the name of light spirit but seems more solid, or what he does is simply not TK at all "shrug".

But anyway, dont herring, ive given two ways for Kain to easily escape Tk and Kain being too fast for Ganon to do it is probably another one, tharts 3 ways Kain could escape. We dont need to debate mist particles...

Kain wins this with ease, with or without the help of Kratos who is an unwilling pawn ready to control if he needs some lightning/bow support....

Originally posted by Burning thought
Its particles of moisture are so small it may as well be a gas and what do you mean not as hard as I might think? thats still hard, if all yuove done is TK liquids or solids, anything near a gas would be difficult.

And a light spirit? show me....ive seen a lot of Ganon feats, I am usually disapointed when I actually see them. Its probably got the name of light spirit but seems more solid, or what he does is simply not TK at all "shrug".

But anyway, dont herring, ive given two ways for Kain to easily escape Tk and Kain being too fast for Ganon to do it is probably another one, tharts 3 ways Kain could escape. We dont need to debate mist particles...

Kain wins this with ease, with or without the help of Kratos who is an unwilling pawn ready to control if he needs some lightning/bow support....

The mist form you seen Kain in is a lot more dense than most mist. Its way easier to TK than you make it out to be.

We've been through this before, I will not show you anything, and in this case you've already seen it at least three times. Its the same video of Zant TKing Midna.

You love to forget things about Ganon, say Kain teleports out of TK. Ganon can Teleport too. Its a lot faster than any Kain teleport as well.

Nobody in this thread can hurt Ganon.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
The mist form you seen Kain in is a lot more dense than most mist. Its way easier to TK than you make it out to be.

We've been through this before, I will not show you anything, and in this case you've already seen it at least three times. Its the same video of Zant TKing Midna.

You love to forget things about Ganon, say Kain teleports out of TK. Ganon can Teleport too. Its a lot faster than any Kain teleport as well.

Nobody in this thread can hurt Ganon.

Is that so? when has it be TKed to prove this theory?

ok brilliant, go away then....

pff, I doubt it, Ganons teleport..hmm, I am not sure ive seen that one either...

fanfiction ftw

Originally posted by Burning thought
Is that so? when has it be TKed to prove this theory?

ok brilliant, go away then....

pff, I doubt it, Ganons teleport..hmm, I am not sure ive seen that one either...

fanfiction ftw

Doesn't have to be. You can see just by looking at it that it has a lot more water in it than normal mist. Its probably closer to TKing a liquid than it is to TKing a gas.

😮 Did you just acknowledge a feat?

That one you probably haven't but I won't be showing you that. If someone else asks for it then sure.

fact ftw

Fix'd.

Play a Zelda game.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Doesn't have to be. You can see just by looking at it that it has a lot more water in it than normal mist. Its probably closer to TKing a liquid than it is to TKing a gas.

Reach man! reach and you may grasp something! really strain your arm!

Tisk tisk BT. Must you resort to such childish methods?

Your the one reaching my dear, I could either try and make you realise your folly by making a comedic mockery out of it OR be nasty and call you a wally, I chose the former to be less nasty.... 🙂

Well, even if that was reaching, I'm still right about Ganon being able to TK the mist form. So, I win.

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Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Delusional.

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so how is kain supposed to beat ganondorf when he died against raziel? he came back through self resurrection but how long did that take?

In canon Kain did not face Raziel using all his power, also remember that Kain did not have all the power from Raziel e.g. the Soul reaver sword. Kain and Raziel fought but only Raziel fought to kill, Kain fought to stop Raziel.

The resurrection? a few minutes would be my guess, its unknown how long exactly due to the fact Kain is tossed into another dimension then you play as Raziel and its only after that that you get to see what happened to Kain, but based on the fact he was tossed into the demon realm, demons who thought Kain was the enemy to everything they represented AND one of their arch enemies he could not have possibly been lieing on the floor for longer than a few minutes if that.

isnt raziel's version of the reaver stronger than kains?